Yes, it's another New Year so I'm blotto* and trying to sing again. And I can't.
It's quite annoying really, and I was wondering if anyone had ever had any experience of taking vocal lessons, and if so if it was good/ bad? I've got various "teach yourself" courses, but was wondering if an actual "hands on" (should there be any female nudie teachers in the area I'd love to heart from you ;) ) approach might be a little more succesful? I think I've got about a 2.5 octave range (going by my keyboard), but naff all power and hideous breaks between ranges and littel stamina. Gets a bit annoying when trying to belt out power ballads I can tell you!
* - I would mention in my sig anything posted this evening is due to excessive yeast excretia, but I'm too sozzled to find the sig setting here...
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Singing Lessons?
I will PM you tomorrow with some breathing techniques that our daughter was taught by someone with professional training. Also the correct way of warming up your vocal chords which is the most important thing to remember. 
Other than that it's just about enjoying it :thumbup: Do it for you and no-one else
Other than that it's just about enjoying it :thumbup: Do it for you and no-one else
That'd be greatly appreciated
I'm sure my voice didn't used to be so bad, but years of ciggies, booze, chocolate etc seem to have taken their toll, and any "natual" ability has suffered just a touch. It's damned annoying as it's not that I'm tone deaf, or even that on a good day I can't hit the notes, it's just my throat cries "Enough" after a very short time and leavesme croaking and crackling all over the place
I'd love to be able to sing well enough to impress someone else, but the main thing to me is to be able to hold a tune well enough to please myself - I'm selfish like that ;-)
I'm sure my voice didn't used to be so bad, but years of ciggies, booze, chocolate etc seem to have taken their toll, and any "natual" ability has suffered just a touch. It's damned annoying as it's not that I'm tone deaf, or even that on a good day I can't hit the notes, it's just my throat cries "Enough" after a very short time and leavesme croaking and crackling all over the place
I'd love to be able to sing well enough to impress someone else, but the main thing to me is to be able to hold a tune well enough to please myself - I'm selfish like that ;-)
I had a throat infection about 3 years ago that knackered my voice :cry: But what the hell- I still sing coz it makes me happy!
I was stitched up last night though- we were playing on our neighbours Wii, and I was dragged into doing a "High School Musical" Duet.
The problem? I've never- EVER seen the film, OR heard any of the fecking music
And someone please tell me that I was so drunk I imagined the lyrics "flop flop flop, flop like a mop"
:shock:
Please :shock: :shock:
I was stitched up last night though- we were playing on our neighbours Wii, and I was dragged into doing a "High School Musical" Duet.
The problem? I've never- EVER seen the film, OR heard any of the fecking music
And someone please tell me that I was so drunk I imagined the lyrics "flop flop flop, flop like a mop"
:shock:
Please :shock: :shock:
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Quote by winchwench
And someone please tell me that I was so drunk I imagined the lyrics "flop flop flop, flop like a mop"
:shock:
Please :shock: :shock:
Probably not. The kids at school watched the DVD in my classroom at the end of last term - looks like a right pile of crap.
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Quote by Shireen
Ack that is one of the worst songs in the film Winchy :lol2:
Breaking Free is far better :lol2:
I haven't watched both HSM 1 & 2 several times.... Oh no I haven't
Ooooo you have, haven't you? You can come and watch it the next time the kids want it on and I'll go for a cuppa in the staffroom!
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Quote by Freckledbird
And someone please tell me that I was so drunk I imagined the lyrics "flop flop flop, flop like a mop"
:shock:
Please :shock: :shock:
Probably not. The kids at school watched the DVD in my classroom at the end of last term - looks like a right pile of crap.
Agreed :lol2:
Quote by Shambolic
Yes, it's another New Year so I'm blotto* and trying to sing again. And I can't.
It's quite annoying really, and I was wondering if anyone had ever had any experience of taking vocal lessons, and if so if it was good/ bad? I've got various "teach yourself" courses, but was wondering if an actual "hands on" (should there be any female nudie teachers in the area I'd love to heart from you ;) ) approach might be a little more succesful? I think I've got about a 2.5 octave range (going by my keyboard), but naff all power and hideous breaks between ranges and littel stamina. Gets a bit annoying when trying to belt out power ballads I can tell you!
* - I would mention in my sig anything posted this evening is due to excessive yeast excretia, but I'm too sozzled to find the sig setting here...
I was where you are about 20 years ago. I tried a few vocal coaches in The Stage, then found a local conservatoire. Where I got into Bel Canto, (beautiful singing) and learned the classical approach to singing. Which was hugely frustrating as it is a very disciplined method of developing your singing abilities.
It was fun for a few years whilst I was learning. But you can end up being led into demanding and expensive coaching and performances. Even joining a choir costs membership fees and travelling expenses. Hours spent in freezing cold church halls etc.
Its probably the only real coaching you will receive. It takes several years to give your voice some real accomplishment. Most other coachings are basically short cuts. Remember its easy to be flattered, when the flatterer is being paid by you.
I don't do it now, but it was quite an experience to have done it, as there were a few times when I met some truly talented and well known people.
Quote by duncanlondon
I was where you are about 20 years ago. I tried a few vocal coaches in The Stage, then found a local conservatoire. Where I got into Bel Canto, (beautiful singing) and learned the classical approach to singing. Which was hugely frustrating as it is a very disciplined method of developing your singing abilities.
I've also heard the classical training is good.. If you want to sing in a classical style. Which isn't really my thing (and yes, I have a problem with that level of discipline too
)Hours spent in freezing cold church halls etc.
I suspect, given my personal take on religion and churches, this might not be such a great idea ;)
Most other coachings are basically short cuts. Remember its easy to be flattered, when the flatterer is being paid by you.
This worries me. Money is tight, so I'd be wanting actual results and not a quick bodge or money grabbing charlatan. I remember my first driving instructor (to go on a bit of a tangent), who was happy to string me along to keep getting the money in, without ever really doing anything to help my skills or confidence.
I don't do it now, but it was quite an experience to have done it, as there were a few times when I met some truly talented and well known people.
I've not had much experience of meeting "talented" people, but the little I have had has been, erm, "interesting". I'm sure most people would love to think they have some amazing artistic flair buried away and I'm no different, but in reality I'd be happy if my voice could reach a passable standard!
Quote by winchwench
I had a throat infection about 3 years ago that knackered my voice :cry: But what the hell- I still sing coz it makes me happy!
I get a little concerned because I seem to have had something iffy i my throat for nearly 2 years now - And the doctor I saw couldn't find anything! Doesn't stop me trying though (it probably should, I'll bet I'm doing myself no favours). And I get really frustrated when I seem to be able to hold one or two songs together, then lose it all completely and wake up with a painful throat the next day. I'm too damned stubborn for my own good I suppose...
And someone please tell me that I was so drunk I imagined the lyrics "flop flop flop, flop like a mop"
:shock:
I knew there was a good reason for not liking musicals!*
*Rocky Horror, Little Shop and Nightmare Before christmas notwithstanding
Quote by Shambolic
I had a throat infection about 3 years ago that knackered my voice :cry: But what the hell- I still sing coz it makes me happy!
I get a little concerned because I seem to have had something iffy i my throat for nearly 2 years now - And the doctor I saw couldn't find anything! Doesn't stop me trying though (it probably should, I'll bet I'm doing myself no favours). And I get really frustrated when I seem to be able to hold one or two songs together, then lose it all completely and wake up with a painful throat the next day. I'm too damned stubborn for my own good I suppose...
And someone please tell me that I was so drunk I imagined the lyrics "flop flop flop, flop like a mop"
:shock:
I knew there was a good reason for not liking musicals!*
*Rocky Horror, Little Shop and Nightmare Before christmas notwithstanding
You are singing on your larynx and not using 'support'. This is the process of spreading and drawing energy from your surrounding muscles, solar plexus etc. All this takes time to recognise and then develop and then control. The suppport provides the mechanics and power of sound production, and the larynx just flavours it with music and tone and feelings.
You will need to develop that ability or your singing apparatus will not be strong enough to do what you want.
But look, if all you want to do is have some fun on the karaoke or in a band, then its not worth getting into a long proces of learning and 'agonising'. You may only ever need to learn a basic pop or rock or jazz repertoire and it will be good enough.
