Site Upgrades This Week and Site Speed Merged

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Shireen_Mids
What Susie is saying is that he is better than us basically......

Not how I see it. I see it as someone expecting a better service for having paid for it. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If I paid to upgrade my cable package then I would expect more choice/service for my money than someone who has freeview.
Jas
XXX

19 Apr 2006

So Susie should expect to be treated better than you or I??
Nah I dont think so......
Susie can complain about the fact that the chatroom doesn't work, or that perhaps he cant access his PM box but not about the fact the he expects better service than the free members.... That's like equating us to servants....
Sorry but he is no better than I or you and therefore should not be treated as such....
Next we will be hearing I paid for this service and therefore you cant ban me rolleyes

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Shireen_Mids
So Susie should expect to be treated better than you or I??
Nah I dont think so......
Susie can complain about the fact that the chatroom doesn't work, or that perhaps he cant access his PM box but not about the fact the he expects better service than the free members.... That's like equating us to servants....
Sorry but he is no better than I or you and therefore should not be treated as such....
Next we will be hearing I paid for this service and therefore you cant ban me

We'll have to agree to disgree here as I do think that having paid the money entitles you to better service than those who haven't paid.
It's the whole point of paying for the additions. You pay for more services and for faster support than regular members. That's just commercialisation and doesn't make me feel like anyone's servant.
As for the banning bit - I'm sure it already happens with those who pay for basic membership - it used to happen when the site was free, so I don't see why it would have changed now it's not :shock: :shock: The amount of double refunds that I offered to people was incredible lol

:lol: :lol:
Jas
XXX

19 Apr 2006

With regards to the new Extra's Features, I to have a view on these items much the same as those before me. The option of a stealth mode on webcams is very worrying on many levels. Most noticable with regards to the Data Protection Act 1998. If my interpritation of the act is correct this new stealth option does in fact fall foul of this and leaves the current owners in some serious legal issues. I've included what I feel are the two relivant parts to this and would appricate comments from everyone on this. I have highlighted some relivant points.
The Eighth Data Protection Principle
The Eighth Data Protection Principle states that personal data shall not be transferred outside the European Economic Area (EEA) unless the country to which they are being transferred has adequate data protection legislation. Personal data published on the Internet is available world-wide, including in countries without data protection legislation, and thus breaches the Eighth Principle. However, this principle does not apply when data subjects have given their consent to the transfer of their data. It is therefore important to ensure, before publishing personal data on the Internet, that the data subjects are aware of, and have consented to, publication. It is important to understand that, in this context, consent is only valid if the data subject is fully aware of the consequences of consent ie that their information will be available in countries where the rights of data subjects are not protected by law.
Webcams
The definition of personal data in the 1998 Data Protection Act includes physical or physiological attributes. Images captured by a Webcam can therefore constitute personal data. The operation of a Webcam will breach the Eighth Principle if images enabling individuals to be readily identified are broadcast on the Internet. The advice of the Information Commissioner's Office is that 'care should therefore be taken with the siting and operation of Webcams to ensure that the features of individuals remain indistinct, so that no observer could see a level of detail which would enable them to readily identify an individual caught on camera'.
Okay. the first part. I am sure that myself, and everyone else here that uses the chatroom, for use of a webcam has not given there consent for it to be broadcasted over the net. Yes I know that this might well be implied if you start up a webcam, but impling and have some tangible proof that you did are two different things.
Secondly, in the second statement with regards to the operation, this would directly affect the stealth operation, as you have no direct control of who is actually viewing your cam, so is IMO a direct violation of the act.
If my interpritaions are incorect then I appologize, but this is my view of it.

19 Apr 2006

Gotta throw in a no vote for the stealth cam...mainly cause I can't see any positve reasons for wanting to hide the fact that you are viewing a cam. Can anyone give me a good reason why anyone would want to do this? confused

silky
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19 Apr 2006

OK.... so if all these new fangled doodads, whatnots and thingumybobs are so bleedin' wonderful, why wont the feckin' chatrooms load now?
It was pretty flakey before and all we got was 'just you wait till the new sooper whizzo model is introduced'
Well its here and its arse!
Might be good if the feckin' thing worked.

19 Apr 2006

Oh bugger.
Egg on face time now.....feckin thing has woken up...scared the poo out of me!!! banghead

19 Apr 2006

I can't say anything positive about the new spam/wink feature, but I'm realistic enough to know that it will stay regardless so would admin mind giving some thought to give us the option of not recieving these or at least make the ignore feature work properly so we can actually ignore them.

19 Apr 2006

Totally agree on the wink thing. Must be overloading the servers with extra main problem, I think, is that people are using it before they've read the info on what it is..
I'd just be happy to get my pictures back - anyone else sent an invite to their private gallery and the recipient can't see the pics? My profile pic isn't visible either - yet they're all there in my photos. mad

Personally, I don't mind paying for extra fetaures, so long as they're not compulsory, the price is reasonable and you can still access what you previously paid to access. Anyone know just how many people are paying members at all? You can't run an operation like this on goodwill and air. What else can you get that's as much fun for less than Â£1 a week?

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
also how about usernames being in green or something for all those that have paid to be extra. A chat ignore facility would be good too for those that have paid to be extras.
I paid in the hope of getting more, more options etc. See how it goes. hopefully admin will reply to this, also could their be an FAQ available for the paid extra members.
Thanks

well give susie what he wants & have done with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
give em a little green thingy ........then we can take an educated guess who` spying!!!!!!!!!!!!
and as for the data protection re cams stuff.............put your can on...put i accept in the little box..... u agreed to put it on the net!!!!!!!!!!
anything else needs sorting??????? biggrin

19 Apr 2006

Quote by HornyLittleBlonde
I can't say anything positive about the new spam/wink feature, but I'm realistic enough to know that it will stay regardless so would admin mind giving some thought to give us the option of not recieving these or at least make the ignore feature work properly so we can actually ignore them.

We are giving it a lot of thought and I'm sure we will be able to end up with something thats acceptable.

19 Apr 2006

as for " winks" ...
theres a handy little text bit on our profile that now says..........
"please don`t expect a reply to a wink"
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19 Apr 2006

Quote by krakatoa
With regards to the new Extra's Features, I to have a view on these items much the same as those before me. The option of a stealth mode on webcams is very worrying on many levels. Most noticable with regards to the Data Protection Act 1998. If my interpritation of the act is correct this new stealth option does in fact fall foul of this and leaves the current owners in some serious legal issues. I've included what I feel are the two relivant parts to this and would appricate comments from everyone on this. I have highlighted some relivant points.
The Eighth Data Protection Principle
The Eighth Data Protection Principle states that personal data shall not be transferred outside the European Economic Area (EEA) unless the country to which they are being transferred has adequate data protection legislation. Personal data published on the Internet is available world-wide, including in countries without data protection legislation, and thus breaches the Eighth Principle. However, this principle does not apply when data subjects have given their consent to the transfer of their data. It is therefore important to ensure, before publishing personal data on the Internet, that the data subjects are aware of, and have consented to, publication. It is important to understand that, in this context, consent is only valid if the data subject is fully aware of the consequences of consent ie that their information will be available in countries where the rights of data subjects are not protected by law.
Webcams
The definition of personal data in the 1998 Data Protection Act includes physical or physiological attributes. Images captured by a Webcam can therefore constitute personal data. The operation of a Webcam will breach the Eighth Principle if images enabling individuals to be readily identified are broadcast on the Internet. The advice of the Information Commissioner's Office is that 'care should therefore be taken with the siting and operation of Webcams to ensure that the features of individuals remain indistinct, so that no observer could see a level of detail which would enable them to readily identify an individual caught on camera'.
Okay. the first part. I am sure that myself, and everyone else here that uses the chatroom, for use of a webcam has not given there consent for it to be broadcasted over the net. Yes I know that this might well be implied if you start up a webcam, but impling and have some tangible proof that you did are two different things.
Secondly, in the second statement with regards to the operation, this would directly affect the stealth operation, as you have no direct control of who is actually viewing your cam, so is IMO a direct violation of the act.
If my interpritaions are incorect then I appologize, but this is my view of it.

If you read everything during your sign up, you will see that this is not an issue.

19 Apr 2006

*Cue sarcastic remark*
rolleyes

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
Thanks for some of the arsey, disrepectful comments by a few. HE doesnt want much , just a few ideas, YES paid members should get more, YES Free members shouldnt have a say in what paid members get and YES i didnt think i got abusive at all or sarcastic so am a bit naffed off with receiving comments in that vein..
Thanks to the people who kept the thread real and were adult like in their postings, whether in agreement or not. I personally hope that SH doesnt bow down to free members (in whatever guise), I also hope SH can get all the features up and running and keep the Paid members informed.
(Cue more sarcastic remarks, ridicule from certain quarters)

Susie, I just hope that enough *Free* members stick around for you to be able to watch under stealth mode rolleyes

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
Dawn
Maybe you should read someones threads before jumping on the bandwaggon and insinuating stuff.

:doh: She is a Mod and therefore required to read ALL the threads rolleyes

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
Dawn
Maybe you should read someones threads before jumping on the bandwaggon and insinuating stuff.
I have not once said i would use stealth . I have said i would like the paid options to be working and that free members do not try to get paid members options changed or taken away.
I hope that clears it up for you. I was expecting a similar post from a free member/moderator so thank you for not disappointing me.
Of course change (such as the extras options) disrupts a site, but there is no need for sarcasm, ridicule and the like. In my opinion of course.

Susie, once people work out that you could, along with other paid members, watch cams there is the possibility that some of the free members become more selective over when and where they cam.
Other than that, I am glad I could provide you with sarcasm but sadly I left out ridicule, I think dunno

19 Apr 2006

Please feel free to ignore me.... Oh and I dont recall there being a rule that states I have to call you she either....

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
Which is why i thought you oversteped the mark and made a point of trying to slap me down for having a different view than you by ridiculing me.

But it's ok for you to slap people down that are free members!!

19 Apr 2006

The funny thing is that in a few weeks everyone will have forgotten how the rooms used to be. We will all calmly go about our daily pervery as if nothing has happened.
Remember all the fuss and Hoo Ha when the room changed hands a few months back? The world kept on turning, and the sky didnt fall in.
Lets not forget that this is a commercial site. If it sells it stays, if it don't its out. No amount of whingeing and bleating is going to change a thing. Learn to love it or walk on by.

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
Dawn i wasnt infering that you had ridiculed me, apologies if you felt that i had.

Thank you Susie biggrin

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I also believe i paid for more of a say than some whingers trying to get more options/equal options to those that have paid. .

What gives you THAT idea?
Everyone on the site is entitled to an opinion regardless if thay have paid or not.
Its a business and i am sure most businesses listen to paying customaers rather than those that havent spent any money.
Put simply, paying gives you EXTRA , Id like to think SH took more notice of those that paid, or whats the use in paying if free members can kick up a fuss and get paying members options changed.
Sorry , but that doesn't answer my question..Why do you think you have more of a say here than any non-paying member? Unless I am wrong the majority of this site is made up of non-paying members ( for the time being) and people can vote with their feet. They can be the ones who won't pay come December...
I and all of the other Ops and Mods give up our free time to help keep the site 'on track'..as a non-paying member do you really think that I have less of a say than you?

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I expressed a view that paid members should have more say/options that free . I dont recall being personal or abusive or ridiculing them. This is getting silly. Oh i see the free members / mods are trying to ridicule, be sarcastic because they dont agree so now they are trying to bully me into silence. Ok you win....

I am not bullying you into anything! I am asking why you think as a paying member you have more right to voice an opinion than anyone else?
And I am not a Mod I am an Op.

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I expressed a view that paid members should have more say/options that free . I dont recall being personal or abusive or ridiculing them. This is getting silly. Oh i see the free members / mods are trying to ridicule, be sarcastic because they dont agree so now they are trying to bully me into silence. Ok you win....

No Susie, what you said was:

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I also believe i paid for more of a say than some whingers trying to get more options/equal options to those that have paid. .

That's what you haven't answered successfully for me or any of the other non-paying members, why you think paying gives you "more of a say".

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Dawn_Mids
Thanks for some of the arsey, disrepectful comments by a few. HE doesnt want much , just a few ideas, YES paid members should get more, YES Free members shouldnt have a say in what paid members get and YES i didnt think i got abusive at all or sarcastic so am a bit naffed off with receiving comments in that vein..
Thanks to the people who kept the thread real and were adult like in their postings, whether in agreement or not. I personally hope that SH doesnt bow down to free members (in whatever guise), I also hope SH can get all the features up and running and keep the Paid members informed.
(Cue more sarcastic remarks, ridicule from certain quarters)

Susie, I just hope that enough *Free* members stick around for you to be able to watch under stealth mode rolleyes

I was gonna pay the extra till I saw this but I think I much prefare the old members.
cat

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I expressed a view that paid members should have more say/options that free . I dont recall being personal or abusive or ridiculing them. This is getting silly. Oh i see the free members / mods are trying to ridicule, be sarcastic because they dont agree so now they are trying to bully me into silence. Ok you win....

No Susie, what you said was:

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I also believe i paid for more of a say than some whingers trying to get more options/equal options to those that have paid. .

That's what you haven't answered successfully for me or any of the other non-paying members, why you think paying gives you "more of a say".
Try reading the first line in the above quote.... then read your last post and if you get stuck in a cycle ask one of your mod/op mates to give you a nudge. I cannot win or even draw it seems. I'll stand still so you can all have your pound of flesh.
Mods/Ops X1 1 Susie He Tv 0
Game over.

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I expressed a view that paid members should have more say/options that free . .

Yes- and? I still haven't heard why you have more of a right to an opinion that (sic) non-paying members. The last line of my post is pretty much the same as the last line I just typed, which is still unanswered.
I haven't got stuck in a cycle, I am still waiting for an answer to my question.
Oh and put the handbag down ok? Mine is bigger.

19 Apr 2006

Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
Shireen , im not talking to you as we used to work together! .

Did you

Was she a hard worker :dunno:
Sorry, Shireen might have ignored this comment but I'm quite surprised by it :shock:

19 Apr 2006

I didn't ignore it Dawn, I am just not rising to the bait..... He obviously wants me to ask questions but I really dont give a flying..... dunno

19 Apr 2006

ok stop the stelth/site upgrades this week/extra package cant they all be put together sick of jumping between posts here

19 Apr 2006

ok 2penneth worth coming
personaly i think people that have been members for years should have their opinions listened to wether they have paid or not, after all, without all those members this site wouldnt be where it is now.
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