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:? :? Quote by mike48
Another vote against 'Winks' and 'stealth' cam viewing here.
i agree with the above
ive also a question (not sure if this is the rite place but blks anyway)If i am in a password protected room with someone will someone with stealth thingy not in the room be able to see me if i go on cam ....or have i just found a way around it ???
How could they see your cam if they weren't in the room Mike ?
Minx x x
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Quote by mike48
How could they see your cam if they weren't in the room Mike ?
Minx x x
Ill rephrase it just to make it clear
Will someone with stealth thingy have an overall blanket facility to vieu all cams whether in the room or not
and if not then i think private rooms are the anwser
I can answer that one - No
1. They will only be able to view cams in the room that they are in.
2. Their name will appear in the room list.
3. If you have a cam on and they view you an eye won't display.
:cry: Quote by st3v3
Ill rephrase it just to make it clear
Will someone with stealth thingy have an overall blanket facility to vieu all cams whether in the room or not
and if not then i think private rooms are the anwser
I can answer that one - No
1. They will only be able to view cams in the room that they are in.
2. Their name will appear in the room list.
3. If you have a cam on and they view you an eye won't display.
If they are listed as being in the room what's the point of stealth mode then - the people on the cam can just assume that any member in the room is watching their cam show and boot those they don't want in out then can't they?
I can see that making cammers feel easier in themselves but..............
Why is that an extra feature then - you aren't gaining anything by it.
Really confused now
Jas
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Sex God
Quote by Jas-Tim
I can answer that one - No
1. They will only be able to view cams in the room that they are in.
2. Their name will appear in the room list.
3. If you have a cam on and they view you an eye won't display.
If they are listed as being in the room what's the point of stealth mode then - the people on the cam can just assume that any member in the room is watching their cam show and boot those they don't want in they can kick out then can't they?
I can see that making cammers feel easier in themselves but..............
Why is that an extra feature then - you aren't gaining anything by it.
Really confused now
Jas
XXX
Its part of a bundle and agreed by itself isn't that much to have (although stealth mode does sound good).
Quote by Jas-Tim
Ill rephrase it just to make it clear
Will someone with stealth thingy have an overall blanket facility to vieu all cams whether in the room or not
and if not then i think private rooms are the anwser
I can answer that one - No
1. They will only be able to view cams in the room that they are in.
2. Their name will appear in the room list.
3. If you have a cam on and they view you an eye won't display.
If they are listed as being in the room what's the point of stealth mode then - the people on the cam can just assume that any member in the room is watching their cam show and boot those they don't want in out then can't they?
I can see that making cammers feel easier in themselves but..............
Why is that an extra feature then - you aren't gaining anything by it.
Really confused now
Jas
XXX
Room owners aren't supposed to boot others just because they don't want them there.
There is an option to open passworded rooms that only allow people with the password to enter. A much more 'humane' selection process ;)
Minx x x
Master of Sex
I have a big concern about the cam stealth mode too - I don't use my cam a great deal and when I do it tends to be in a private locked room so I control exactly who can see what.
It seems to me like there's a privacy issue here and I can imagine it will give lots of people the creeps knowing they can be watched like this.
Here's a few suggestions for some things I think the site should have (sorry to heap this onboard as I appreciate you guys have worked hard but it seems an opportune moment to mention it):
Chatroom Ignore: the one thing the chatroom is missing (as far as I can tell) is the option to ignore someone. It's been a standard function in all sorts of communication programmes for years and yet it's not available here.
Photos:you can make pictures publicly available or within a gallery to which you invite people, but as far as I can tell you can't restrict access to pictures to specific people on a once-only basis. Why not have the option of a "private to me" gallery from which you can select a picture to send with a message?
Winks:an option to turn off receipt of these, with an accompanying warning to a potential sender saying that you don't accept them so they don't just send and the things disappear into the ethers.
Presence Awareness:users should be able to switch this on and off as they see fit. Some people are happy for the world to know what they're doing on the site; others wish to keep it to themselves.
Friends: the page has been updated but appears to offer no additional options. The main thing I'd find this useful for is to identify whether someone is online or not (assuming they have allowed the option on their profile).
It seems to me like there's a privacy issue here and I can imagine it will give lots of people the creeps knowing they can be watched like this.
Here's a few suggestions for some things I think the site should have (sorry to heap this onboard as I appreciate you guys have worked hard but it seems an opportune moment to mention it):
Chatroom Ignore: the one thing the chatroom is missing (as far as I can tell) is the option to ignore someone. It's been a standard function in all sorts of communication programmes for years and yet it's not available here.
Photos:you can make pictures publicly available or within a gallery to which you invite people, but as far as I can tell you can't restrict access to pictures to specific people on a once-only basis. Why not have the option of a "private to me" gallery from which you can select a picture to send with a message?
Winks:an option to turn off receipt of these, with an accompanying warning to a potential sender saying that you don't accept them so they don't just send and the things disappear into the ethers.
Presence Awareness:users should be able to switch this on and off as they see fit. Some people are happy for the world to know what they're doing on the site; others wish to keep it to themselves.
Friends: the page has been updated but appears to offer no additional options. The main thing I'd find this useful for is to identify whether someone is online or not (assuming they have allowed the option on their profile).
Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
The way some people are going on there wont be no options for the EXTRA payers to use!! The extra users have paid for more options. If there is to be any turning off of options etc then surely only those that have paid should be able to do so.
It does exactly what it says on the tin..
"Current FREE members will be able to do all they have previously done"
Im getting a tad worried here that free members will try to force aadmin into changes, SH have advertised options to people who pay to upgrade, they will be on dodgy ground if they started to change stuff after accepting money for advertised services.
As i said i would welcome more options, secrecy, ignore etc etc but ONLY for those that have now paid extra.
I paid extra, for more options, to identify the others that have paid, to weed out the timewasters and to make the site better. To get better chat options, more rooms than free members I also believe i paid for more of a say than some whingers trying to get more options/equal options to those that have paid. These are OPTIONAL EXTRAS that require payment.
I kinda agree with you but the terms on which we get our current frebies have altered slightly ... ie making your presence on site seen, and the stealth cam thingy.
TBH they way I look at it is different from others as I don't use the site to arrange meets. I can see why people would find that useful if they used the site for regular swinging and meets etc. The rest of the stuff doesn't really interest me and I'll carry on without the extras until I think I might need them, then I'll pay.
I just don't like the idea of my anonymity being taken away or being on show to some and not to others IYSWIM.
Cx
it would be alot easier if there was a invite to view option for cams, and even if you have stealth mode you cannot view unless the cammer has allowed you to.
i do not see why i should have to go into a private room just to be able to put my cam on? wont this cause a even bigger divide and clique? i like chatting to memebrs i havent met before in chat , but to go into a private room would not allow this, i think you will find a lot of private rooms being opened..... but hang on will this now be changed to only if your an extras member you can open a private room???
the bloody winks, allow them to be turned off please.
this has gone from a free open access site to now a 3 tired membership.
you can view but do nothing, pay and do most stuff, or pay even more and umm do a bit more or have a elite chat room.
do the members who were here before buyout get free membership come dec12th? will this membership be worth anything or obsolete unless you have the extras account??
hummmmm here we go again, much like back in december.
i think the site has had some great ideas, but the stealth and winks is not two of them.
then im guessing as ive already been told the voice of long time members accounts for nothing cash does now.
xxx lou xxxx
umm helloooo how the feck does you paying a extra £25 prove your genuine?????
i do not see why i should have to go into a private room just to be able to put my cam on? wont this cause a even bigger divide and clique? i like chatting to memebrs i havent met before in chat , but to go into a private room would not allow this, i think you will find a lot of private rooms being opened..... but hang on will this now be changed to only if your an extras member you can open a private room???
the bloody winks, allow them to be turned off please.
this has gone from a free open access site to now a 3 tired membership.
you can view but do nothing, pay and do most stuff, or pay even more and umm do a bit more or have a elite chat room.
do the members who were here before buyout get free membership come dec12th? will this membership be worth anything or obsolete unless you have the extras account??
hummmmm here we go again, much like back in december.
i think the site has had some great ideas, but the stealth and winks is not two of them.
then im guessing as ive already been told the voice of long time members accounts for nothing cash does now.
xxx lou xxxx
umm helloooo how the feck does you paying a extra £25 prove your genuine?????
Quote by mike48
(although stealth mode does sound good).
It may sound good to some but it is still Spying.
Fred
there goes my privacy
ops: :oops: :oops: :sparring:
I agree - so far that is the only thing I am very uncomfortable with.
As you know - I show my face and never flash - I would feel far happier knowing who is watching. Or having the option to choose who can view - that would be a major leap forward.
Even allows you to see who is watching you.
On a more positive note I love the free text bit in the profile.
Mind you I have added this at the end of it:.......
PS ANY 'I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE'MAILS WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE DELETED. If you can't be bothered to put together more than an automated email - then I can't be bothered to read it!
15 Auto deletes so far!
All in all - changes alway arise unrest - we should let things settle again folks.
However I hope Admin take into consideration our concerns.
Hugs,
Alex (still smiling)
Sex God
Folks
Having sat and read this thread...........
Can I ask you cast your minds back to when the 4tops first put a cam room into the chatroom and the fuss that caused. :shock:
Slowly we all got use to it, and some of us cam, some of us don't. :twisted:
Now we have stealth mode, again some of you are causing a load of fuss, some of you are not.......
IMHO, I think things will settle down, if you are not happy about stealth mode, then don't cam or only show the bits of you that cannot be identified.................
But whar ever, I will still be camming the baps and pussy (when he is not out mousing!!)
Having sat and read this thread...........
Can I ask you cast your minds back to when the 4tops first put a cam room into the chatroom and the fuss that caused. :shock:
Slowly we all got use to it, and some of us cam, some of us don't. :twisted:
Now we have stealth mode, again some of you are causing a load of fuss, some of you are not.......
IMHO, I think things will settle down, if you are not happy about stealth mode, then don't cam or only show the bits of you that cannot be identified.................
But whar ever, I will still be camming the baps and pussy (when he is not out mousing!!)
Quote by Shireen_Mids
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/main/aup.html
Whether you have paid or not you have to abide by the above.... If you dont follow the AUP you can have your account suspended.....
The long and short of it is that members are members....
Thanks for saving me the bother Shireen
Minx x x
Sex God
Not too keen on a lot of the changes as mentioned above, realy cant be arsed to go into a rant about it so wont bother.
Why are half my photos missing? according to the new section I am only using 6 of 12 places for photos so where are the rest of them? ... NOT AMUSED
Considerd upgrading PC considerd getting cam, wont be bothering now that choice has been made nice and easy.
Being 100% honest I am actuly considering taking everything down and fecking off seeing as we were only going to be here til about late June early july anyway. Will talk to Mrs Tweeky and decide later.
Mr Tweeky
Why are half my photos missing? according to the new section I am only using 6 of 12 places for photos so where are the rest of them? ... NOT AMUSED
Considerd upgrading PC considerd getting cam, wont be bothering now that choice has been made nice and easy.
Being 100% honest I am actuly considering taking everything down and fecking off seeing as we were only going to be here til about late June early july anyway. Will talk to Mrs Tweeky and decide later.
Mr Tweeky
Quote by BiWelshMinx
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/main/aup.html
Whether you have paid or not you have to abide by the above.... If you dont follow the AUP you can have your account suspended.....
The long and short of it is that members are members....
Thanks for saving me the bother Shireen
Minx x x
Yes the AUP applies to everyone, and rightly so, but it seems to me that what Susie is saying is that having paid the money then surely the options available shouldn't be up for alteration by those who haven't paid for them. I completely agree with that.
Put the shoe on the other foot and think about it, you've paid and people who haven't paid a penny, are asking that your paid for membership and extra options be amended to suit them. It's isn't fair and you wouldn't find it acceptable from a customer service point of view if you had forked out the money.
Jas
XXX
Quote by Jas-Tim
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/main/aup.html
Whether you have paid or not you have to abide by the above.... If you dont follow the AUP you can have your account suspended.....
The long and short of it is that members are members....
Thanks for saving me the bother Shireen
Minx x x
Yes the AUP applies to everyone, and rightly so, but it seems to me that what Susie is saying is that having paid the money then surely the options available shouldn't be up for alteration by those who haven't paid for them. I completely agree with that.
Put the shoe on the other foot and think about it, you've paid and people who haven't paid a penny, are asking that your paid for membership and extra options be amended to suit them. It's isn't fair and you wouldn't find it acceptable from a customer service point of view if you had forked out the money.
Jas
XXX
Fair point Jas and I don't disagree, however this is what I took offence too:
Quote by Tv_Susie_Kent
I also believe i paid for more of a say than some whingers trying to get more options/equal options to those that have paid. .
And what Shireen responded too just ahead of me.
No-one has more of a say than anyone else as far as I am aware
Minx x x
Sexlightened
Quote by Shireen_Mids
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/main/aup.html
Whether you have paid or not you have to abide by the above.... If you dont follow the AUP you can have your account suspended.....
The long and short of it is that members are members....
I hate these sort of thingy's so I did this just for fun and is in no way meant to upset anyone. and I am paul by the way. ok as per site aup with some interesting questions/additions see red for my views,
Escorting ads or any ‘pay for sex’ (extra's and stelth thingy) type services like 0909 numbers, or pay-for ‘gangbang parties Attempting to sell a service or product of any kind. (do you now own all members camming sessions)People come to Swinging Heaven to meet like minded people and not to be harassed by you touting for business
The posting of pictures on any part of the Swinging Heaven site that you do not have copyright, (again you are now claiming to own copyright to all members private cam conversations)or posting pictures that are fake, a joke or don't actually contain any part of you in them, or worse, that include a third party without their consent (nowhere do I see anyone who give there consent)
also cat says sorry no more cam for anyone
Paul cats other half.
