what the hell all you clubbers going to do when smoking ban comes in, your in a swingers club relaxing in the juccuzi then you want a ciggy wrap towel round your self.....then go out in car park or street for a ciggy. We was talking about it last night in chat room was told the ban will not effect private club,s.
We seem to think this is wrong as smoking ban applys to all public places and work place,s. Then again we might be wrong...
Ive heard all sorts of stories about what this will mean to many people
Apparantly a lorry driver will no longer be able to smoke in his cab as its HIS workplace
A home service engineer can expect a customer to stop smoking at least 1 hour prior to calling at the house so the atmosphere is smoke free
God knows what other stories will start going round
Im all in favour of the ban but I just wonder if the government have thought it through and how it will be enforced.
Well if the club allows smoking, they can smoke I suppose. If it doesn't then they can't and they'd have to go outside for a ciggy break.
not the point im making they can not allow smoking as it is a work place and a public place private members club or not its still a public place....
Lorry cabs will be exempt if he is a tramper or the lorry is only driven by one person and they do not carry passengers or other work colleagues. All others will be covered by the ban......this includes any type of company vehicle.
All private homes are exempt so there is no problem with home workers (unless they employ someone in the same room as it then turns into a workplace).
If you work alone and have no customers or visitors attending your office you will be exempt.
Home service engineers can ask for people not to smoke and ventilate the room prior to work commencing......but this will be company policy and the choice of the engineer and not legislation as some may think.
Swinging clubs will not be exempt from the legislation. They are open for the public and the premises are enclosed.
It is coming in under a Health Act and the people who will enforce will be mostly Environmental Health. Most will just wait for premises to be "grassed" up by the public after the ban and then will warn the proprietor to stop. If they don't then they will be slapped with up to a £2500 fine........not many proprietors will let it happen more than a few times.
All public vehicles will be covered by the ban......this will include taxis.......even if they are not working that day. This was applied in a landmark case in Scotland where a taxi driver was fined for letting his daughter smoke in his cab on his day off. A vehicle is licensed as a taxi all of the time and not just when the person wants to be one.
What is enclosed? If you have a roof and have 50% or more walls connected to the roof then the ban will apply.
Hope that helps
Dave_Notts
well if you can't smoke on a swingers club...its not really the end of the world!
thx Dave_notts that seems to have cleared it up
I'm so glad we already have the ban in Scotland, it makes all the difference! You feel completely different if you go on a night out now, and implementing the ban doesn't seem to have been an issue here.
We're in barcelona at the moment, and a while ago Den had quit smoking, but as soon as he was in a bar here, he started up again- grrrrrrr!
After being out last night, we both felt horrible this morning because of how smokey the bars had been.
My nose was all bunged up and my clothes and hair stank, so it makes me wonder how anyone has ever been allowed to smoke in public when it makes others feel so minging!
I don't like how many smokers say that a ban takes away their freedom of choice, when smoking in a public place means that a non-smokers freedom of choice is being taken away.
As you can see I don't like smoking much!!!!!
I hope that the ban leads to a complete ban on smoking all together, the world would be such a bette place me thinks!!
(I'm sure den will be along soon to correct me though!)
M xx
i not sure how it will be enforced but 1 things for sure we both wont be heading for pubs after july
unless it is some thing we cant get out of (family event birthdays christenings weddings etc)for me a smoke goes hand in hand with a pint :cry:
i'm sure most clubs will have a smoking area its in their interest to, i know chameleons have, after all they will loose money if people can't have a fag it wouldnt bother me that much but i know people who wont go all night fagless
You are dreaming if you think that there will be 'smoking area's.'
Ask anyone from Scotland or Ireland what this is about and quite simply it will be virtual zero tolerance.
In Ireland the pubs initially suffered but then over time things settled down and you can now have a great night out and everywhere you go has a clean and unpolluted atmosphere.
In time we will all realise just how stinking and disgusting it is to smoke anywhere near anybody else. We have put up with stinking clothes, poisonous fumes and noxious atmospheres for way too long and smokers have absolutely no rights whatsoever to blow their filthy smoke anywhere near anyone else. If I sound sanctimoneous then just look again over in Ireland when the ban has been the biggest single effect in helping people kick the habit and giving them significant health benefits and a lot more cash in their pocket every month.
The ban is based on health & safety issues and means that no one can be able to breathe or smell second hand smoke so ALL public places - including Swingers Clubs will be affected.
That stinks :giggle:
I agree nobody should be forced to breath in smoke but think its pants that smokers are being made leapers. Ive seen quite a few pubs that have already started errecting smokers shelters in the pub grounds. To comply tho they arnt much more than a gazzebo with 3 open sides and if lucky with a patio heater in the middle,no chairs tho as they are quite small and want folk to use then vacate them.
Pilgrim hospital boston has recently become a smoke free zone including its grounds,when ever i drive past theres loads of folk standing out on the road including staff, patients in dressing gowns complete with slippers and some also in wheelchairs. wheres the duty to protect there dignity and preserve there rights of choice???
I wonder if we will see underground smokers clubs open up like in the days of prohibition.
Nicky
I hope that the ban leads to a complete ban on smoking all together, the world would be such a bette place me thinks!!
M xx
Hey good idea Maz and how about we have a world wide ban on drinking too .. eating as well, as both are bad for you. And while we are in a banning mood lets ban wars, intolerance and whinging as well :twisted:
Banning smoking in public places in just the start..... nxt will be a total ban......... they are currently talking about the government gettin involved with who we can and cant marry... soon we wont be able to drink alcohol play music or anything.... its all about the government controlling us
what on earth happened to freedom of choice and each to their own
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