SMOKING BAN how will it effect you?

20 May 2007

All you none smokers should pay more Tax because when the 1st of July comes there will be a lot more people on the dole due to pubs,clubs,bingo halls ect closing down, putting more people calming benefits and more pressure on the economy. How will some of you get your boob job done on the NHS for free because you feel uncovterble with what god gave you. You might say what the hell has a boob job got to do with it but it is paid for by smokers as 85% of cigarette tax goes into the NHS. Also I hope all you none smokers have a green car and house because research shows that car and house pollution courses more damage to your health and the environment then smoking does.

20 May 2007

Quote by KettSwingers
...there will be a lot more people on the dole due to pubs,clubs,bingo halls ect closing down...

Rubbish. Most places in Scotland have reported an increase in takings since the ban up here, especially food sales.

20 May 2007

Quote by KettSwingers
All you none smokers should pay more Tax because when the 1st of July comes there will be a lot more people on the dole due to pubs,clubs,bingo halls ect closing down, putting more people calming benefits and more pressure on the economy. How will some of you get your boob job done on the NHS for free because you feel uncovterble with what god gave you. You might say what the hell has a boob job got to do with it but it is paid for by smokers as 85% of cigarette tax goes into the NHS. Also I hope all you none smokers have a green car and house because research shows that car and house pollution courses more damage to your health and the environment then smoking does.

errr yeah ok! rolleyes

20 May 2007

Quote by Ukwineman
Means I can come home from the pub without smelling like an ashtray :bounce: :bounce:

I agree. Ok ok I used to smoke, I smoked up to 30 a day some years back and successfully quit. I don't mind people smoking but the other night I was out and yesterday morning I woke up with the most horrendous sinus headache ever, I'd had them before when I smoked but not since.

20 May 2007

Quote by Edin BBW
...there will be a lot more people on the dole due to pubs,clubs,bingo halls ect closing down...

Rubbish. Most places in Scotland have reported an increase in takings since the ban up here, especially food sales.
Latest figures show a 14% drop in profits across the board. Irelands figures were approximately 20%. This is a short term loss as the smokers will be replaced by the next generation of children who know nothing different except smoke-free.
However, job losses and peoples livelihoods have been hit. But over the next ten years this should bounce back.
So non-smokers have been hit in the loss of their jobs, but this is the pain for the benefit of the future.
Wet pubs, bingo halls, private clubs where they can't sell food or have a closed community will be hit worse. 10 bingo halls have already shut with more to follow. The small halls (independantly run) are worse hit. Even the big pub chains and breweries are reporting combat that the prices are being passed to the public. So the revenue that they are losing due to not having the smokers is being paid for by the non-smokers. Thats the best news I have heard all year. You wanted it.......you got it. So stump up lol

Change is painful but should benefit the community as a whole in the long run.
Dave_Notts

20 May 2007

It won't effect me. It will affect me in that I won't smell of cigarettes when I've been out to a pub.

20 May 2007

Quote by jaymar
Means I can come home from the pub without smelling like an ashtray :bounce: :bounce:

I agree. Ok ok I used to smoke, I smoked up to 30 a day some years back and successfully quit. I don't mind people smoking but the other night I was out and yesterday morning I woke up with the most horrendous sinus headache ever, I'd had them before when I smoked but not since.
well done on giving up jaymar. ive only ever been a social smoker...as in mon to thurs i wouldnt dream of smoking but i did all weekend while i was out with friends - i stopped that last septemeber but ive never really felt like ive stopped coz im still around smoke all weekend and come home stinking like ive smoked 20!
so yes im looking forward to the ban so i can come home smelling as nice as i did when i went out and finaly feel like a non smoker wink

20 May 2007

Quote by staffcple
Smoking raises £10 billion per annum for the exchequer.
Smoking related disease costs £1.7 billion to treat.
Alcohol related problems cost society £20 billion a year to deal with. When was the last time there was a huge hike on alcohol tax? Or in fact a ban mooted
Obesity related illness costs £500 million to directly treat and £2 billion when other social factors are taken into account plus it directly causes 9000 cancer cases per year. Shall we tax rich foods?
Im more concerned with the next thing on the 'ban' list, because lets face it, some folks arn't happy unless their moaning about something.....where does it end?
Staffys.

good post....really puts things into perspective doesnt it? what will be the next witch hunt?

20 May 2007

Quote by sexkittenhfx
good post....really puts things into perspective doesnt it? what will be the next witch hunt?

Swinger tax? Higher tax on condoms and lube?

20 May 2007

Quote by Freckledbird

good post....really puts things into perspective doesnt it? what will be the next witch hunt?

Swinger tax? Higher tax on condoms and lube?
Witch hunt :shock:
There will be some on here that will be panicking now lol

Dave_Notts

20 May 2007

thats it im keeping my gob shut lol

20 May 2007

Quote by Freckledbird

good post....really puts things into perspective doesnt it? what will be the next witch hunt?

Swinger tax? Higher tax on condoms and lube?
Oh well we'll all just have to go bareback won't we FB bolt

DD :twisted:

20 May 2007

Quote by devondelight
Oh well we'll all just have to go bareback won't we FB
DD :twisted:

Well, if it stops people grumbling about smokers....

20 May 2007

Quote by sexkittenhfx

thats it im keeping my gob shut

That will be a change :lol:
:rotflmao:
bolt

20 May 2007

it makes me wonder why people are more concerned about how their clothes smell and trying to get through a crowd of smokers stood outside the door rather than what the smoking ban is supposed to be about ie surprised

ur health
I watched a documentary on parts of the country where the smoking ban is already enforced and it showed that pubs/clubs ect were greatly affected by the ban and many forced to close, fair enough in 10 or so years when the next generation of non smokers have come along then there might be a call for more pubs/clubs ect but for now they will probably be demolished and turned into flats or something similar.
also like someone else said the revenue from tobaco far outways what is spent treating the related diseases, and another thing all you non smokers complaing about what smokers pump into the air why not look around you and see what things you do that pumps crap into the air, cars/buses,airtravel.
Smokers rock !!!! lol

in edit: the smoking ban will affect me as I will smoke less as less places to smoke also it will probably cost me more for my tobaco, my taxes will probably go up but I can look on the bright side my nhs contributions should go down.........eventually rolleyes

20 May 2007

Quote by tina1
the smoking ban will affect me as I will smoke less as less places to smoke, also it will probably cost me more for my tobaco, my taxes will probably go up but I can look on the bright side my nhs contributions should go down.........eventually

No chance. By then we'll be in the middle of all the public service announcements about how STDs' are epidemic. Every packet of rubbers will have gruesome pictures of inflamed genitals (and not just as a result of the latest gangbang) dripping unmentionable stuff....with boils on the end of inflamed dicks etc. Printed warnings on the packets SEX KILLS along with inserted appoinments to pox clinics hastily established in supermarket carparks, in trailers. Other pictures (rather like Buster Gonads) of guys staggering to the clinics with their balls in wheelbarrows and the text ORCHITIS, THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH will have an instantaneous effect....pretty much like orchitis really !
The end result (no pun) will be more money needed for sex clinics. oh, and amoxycillin will probably be added to the water supply.

20 May 2007

Quote by sexkittenhfx
Means I can come home from the pub without smelling like an ashtray :bounce: :bounce:

I agree. Ok ok I used to smoke, I smoked up to 30 a day some years back and successfully quit. I don't mind people smoking but the other night I was out and yesterday morning I woke up with the most horrendous sinus headache ever, I'd had them before when I smoked but not since.
well done on giving up jaymar. ive only ever been a social smoker...as in mon to thurs i wouldnt dream of smoking but i did all weekend while i was out with friends - i stopped that last septemeber but ive never really felt like ive stopped coz im still around smoke all weekend and come home stinking like ive smoked 20!
so yes im looking forward to the ban so i can come home smelling as nice as i did when i went out and finaly feel like a non smoker wink

thanks kitten, I cannot pretend it was easy and anyone going along the same road has my total sympathy

20 May 2007

I love all the stuff about pubs closing now that theres a ciggy ban :lol2: Come on own up who's been to a new pub opening in the last 10 years? Dont think I have ever known of a new pub to open anywhere round here ever but plenty have closed. Smoking ban may have added a bit to it but its hardly a new phenomenon.

20 May 2007

Quote by Edin BBW
...there will be a lot more people on the dole due to pubs,clubs,bingo halls ect closing down...

Rubbish. Most places in Scotland have reported an increase in takings since the ban up here, especially food sales.
We went to Glasgow a cpl of weeks ago and could not believe what we saw, there were loads of pubs boarded up and out of the 4 bingo halls that were there now only 1 remains open. When we went into the tourist information they told us it’s all to do with the ban on smoking. The only food sales place we saw that was busy was Mcdonalds. but it was

20 May 2007

Who wants to go to a bingo hall now anyway?!!! lol

And where were you in Glasgow that the only food place on offer was McDonalds? Ibrox? dunno

Perhaps you need to try a different area, never had a problem finding somewhere to eat and drink (in the fresh air might I add) in Glasgow!
Maz wink

Quote by KettSwingers
...there will be a lot more people on the dole due to pubs,clubs,bingo halls ect closing down...

Rubbish. Most places in Scotland have reported an increase in takings since the ban up here, especially food sales.
We went to Glasgow a cpl of weeks ago and could not believe what we saw, there were loads of pubs boarded up and out of the 4 bingo halls that were there now only 1 remains open. When we went into the tourist information they told us it’s all to do with the ban on smoking. The only food sales place we saw that was busy was Mcdonalds. but it was

20 May 2007

Quote by mazandden
Who wants to go to a bingo hall now anyway?!!!

Below is a clip from a paper. It tells the story of what bingo regulars will miss. It isn't just a game, it is some peoples only social interaction. Bingo is not my cup of tea but each to their own. If thats their joy, then they are entitled to it.
Dave_Notts
Former bingo caller Jim Bowen understands how much the game means to millions of fans.
"A lot of people who play bingo are widows, people whose husbands have died or are ill, and they're carers, and they manage to get two hours away from the strain and stress and demands of domestic life."
There are thousands of people who rely on their local bingo clubs to add a bit of spice to their lives.
Margaret Lithgow is a regular at the Premier in Kirkcaldy. She says if her local bingo club closes down she will have nowhere else to go.
"I'd stay in the house 24 hours a day on my own, except if my family visits," she says. "They push me to go to the bingo. They like me to go out and get mixed up with other people."

20 May 2007

We did not say it was the only food place in Glasgow but did say it was the only place we saw that was busy.

Quote by mazandden
Who wants to go to a bingo hall now anyway?!!!
And where were you in Glasgow that the only food place on offer was McDonalds? Ibrox?
Perhaps you need to try a different area, never had a problem finding somewhere to eat and drink (in the fresh air might I add) in Glasgow!
Maz
...there will be a lot more people on the dole due to pubs,clubs,bingo halls ect closing down...

Rubbish. Most places in Scotland have reported an increase in takings since the ban up here, especially food sales.
We went to Glasgow a cpl of weeks ago and could not believe what we saw, there were loads of pubs boarded up and out of the 4 bingo halls that were there now only 1 remains open. When we went into the tourist information they told us it’s all to do with the ban on smoking. The only food sales place we saw that was busy was Mcdonalds. but it was

20 May 2007

Quote by tweeky
I love all the stuff about pubs closing now that theres a ciggy ban :lol2: Come on own up who's been to a new pub opening in the last 10 years? Dont think I have ever known of a new pub to open anywhere round here ever but plenty have closed. Smoking ban may have added a bit to it but its hardly a new phenomenon.

actually where we live we have had 2 new pubs open one of which stays open late, one was an old post office of all things!!

20 May 2007

Quote by tweeky
I love all the stuff about pubs closing now that theres a ciggy ban :lol2: Come on own up who's been to a new pub opening in the last 10 years? Dont think I have ever known of a new pub to open anywhere round here ever but plenty have closed. Smoking ban may have added a bit to it but its hardly a new phenomenon.

i know of at least 2 new pubs opened in my area in the last year and I'm sure there are more just trying remember.

20 May 2007

It was a joke, sweetheart, hence the lol

oh dear......

Quote by Dave__Notts
Who wants to go to a bingo hall now anyway?!!! :lol:

Below is a clip from a paper. It tells the story of what bingo regulars will miss. It isn't just a game, it is some peoples only social interaction. Bingo is not my cup of tea but each to their own. If thats their joy, then they are entitled to it.
Dave_Notts
Former bingo caller Jim Bowen understands how much the game means to millions of fans.
"A lot of people who play bingo are widows, people whose husbands have died or are ill, and they're carers, and they manage to get two hours away from the strain and stress and demands of domestic life."
There are thousands of people who rely on their local bingo clubs to add a bit of spice to their lives.
Margaret Lithgow is a regular at the Premier in Kirkcaldy. She says if her local bingo club closes down she will have nowhere else to go.
"I'd stay in the house 24 hours a day on my own, except if my family visits," she says. "They push me to go to the bingo. They like me to go out and get mixed up with other people."

20 May 2007

Quote by Dave__Notts
Who wants to go to a bingo hall now anyway?!!!

Below is a clip from a paper. It tells the story of what bingo regulars will miss. It isn't just a game, it is some peoples only social interaction. Bingo is not my cup of tea but each to their own. If thats their joy, then they are entitled to it.
Dave_Notts
Former bingo caller Jim Bowen understands how much the game means to millions of fans.
"A lot of people who play bingo are widows, people whose husbands have died or are ill, and they're carers, and they manage to get two hours away from the strain and stress and demands of domestic life."
There are thousands of people who rely on their local bingo clubs to add a bit of spice to their lives.
Margaret Lithgow is a regular at the Premier in Kirkcaldy. She says if her local bingo club closes down she will have nowhere else to go.
"I'd stay in the house 24 hours a day on my own, except if my family visits," she says. "They push me to go to the bingo. They like me to go out and get mixed up with other people."
I worked in Bingo halls for 2 years for an outside contractor so I kknow the kind of people mentioned above fairly well
. Makes you think though that obviously the people whos only social outlet that is are a mix of smokers and non smokers. They must love it so much the smokers dunno

that they cant go without a fag for a few hours and keep it up? obviously its not that great they would rather sit at home with a fag than go to the bingo for the social interaction. I have spoken to people at my local who are the same. They are staying at home them and thier fag over the pub and thier mates. There choice I guess but not one I would make.

Quote by tina1
I love all the stuff about pubs closing now that theres a ciggy ban :lol2: Come on own up who's been to a new pub opening in the last 10 years? Dont think I have ever known of a new pub to open anywhere round here ever but plenty have closed. Smoking ban may have added a bit to it but its hardly a new phenomenon.

actually where we live we have had 2 new pubs open one of which stays open late, one was an old post office of all things!!

Quote by Ukwineman
I love all the stuff about pubs closing now that theres a ciggy ban :lol2: Come on own up who's been to a new pub opening in the last 10 years? Dont think I have ever known of a new pub to open anywhere round here ever but plenty have closed. Smoking ban may have added a bit to it but its hardly a new phenomenon.

i know of at least 2 new pubs opened in my area in the last year and I'm sure there are more just trying remember.
Bit of a bad example that by me rolleyes

its a double edged sword, if you live near the centre they shut down everything and put a pub/wine bar there as has happened in the centre of Bristol. In the outskirts and areas just outside Bristol though you never get a new pub ever its the opposite to the centre they close them and turn them into flats offices etc.

21 May 2007

Quote by mazandden
It was a joke, sweetheart, hence the
oh dear......

Well you see Darl, it read to me as taking the mick out of bingo-hall goers. Some people use emoticons to throw in a social handgrenade and then claim "It was just a joke". But don't worry Darl, I wouldn't think you would do that.........not after you saying it was just a joke :lol:

Quote by tweeky
I worked in Bingo halls for 2 years for an outside contractor so I kknow the kind of people mentioned above fairly well
. Makes you think though that obviously the people whos only social outlet that is are a mix of smokers and non smokers. They must love it so much the smokers that they cant go without a fag for a few hours and keep it up? obviously its not that great they would rather sit at home with a fag than go to the bingo for the social interaction. I have spoken to people at my local who are the same. They are staying at home them and thier fag over the pub and thier mates. There choice I guess but not one I would make.

What I see is that the smokers have not "stayed in" but have supported the bingo halls. They just nip out for a fag in the break. Problem being is that 40-50% of the profits are made in the intervals when they play "quick bingo" (whatever the hell that is). So the bingo halls are losing about 20-25% of their revenue (as 40-50% are smokers). This is not sustainable so they close down. So these people lose their social interaction and only joy in life......but hey.....they'll live longer
Dave_Notts

21 May 2007

Whats going to be next
A ban on swinging clubs?????? becouse it makes the church look bad ????

21 May 2007

How's it going to work in the swinging clubs?
I know when people go out they have an option to "nip outside" but I cant imagine a group of people outside the door at Partners dressed in towels :shock:

21 May 2007

Quote by mazandden
Who wants to go to a bingo hall now anyway?!!!

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