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Quote by ladysteph
but I do think the 'safety cameras' are in most cases no more than revenue collectors.............Steph

well of course...why site them near schools or on difficult roads when you can hide them behind a bridge abutment..?
or, without the venom,
how about placing them where unsuitable speed is lethal instead of just where many speed.?
s'only a thought
Quote by banlwales
but I do think the 'safety cameras' are in most cases no more than revenue collectors.............Steph

well of course...why site them near schools or on difficult roads when you can hide them behind a bridge abutment..?
or, without the venom,
how about placing them where unsuitable speed is lethal instead of just where many speed.?
s'only a thought Consider yourself promoted to Chief Constalbble
Quote by ladysteph
but I do think the 'safety cameras' are in most cases no more than revenue collectors.............Steph

well of course...why site them near schools or on difficult roads when you can hide them behind a bridge abutment..?
or, without the venom,
how about placing them where unsuitable speed is lethal instead of just where many speed.?
s'only a thought Consider yourself promoted to Chief Constalbble
Chief Constalbble
sorry been in the bar
Quote by ladysteph
but I do think the 'safety cameras' are in most cases no more than revenue collectors.............Steph

Correct steph smile
Quote by MandH

but I do think the 'safety cameras' are in most cases no more than revenue collectors.............Steph

Correct steph smile
hear hear, well said steph, burn em all I say mad
Quote by ladysteph
Consider yourself promoted to Chief Constalbble

tried it once but couldn't get used to the underwear..!
Quote by banlwales
Consider yourself promoted to Chief Constalbble

tried it once but couldn't get used to the underwear..!
Im sure I could have found you something more suitable......... lol
Quote by ladysteph
Consider yourself promoted to Chief Constalbble

tried it once but couldn't get used to the underwear..!
Im sure I could have found you something more suitable......... lol
aahhh, but would it have been regulation uniform..? Would hate to have had a surprise inspection and been found to be wearing tights instead of the obligatory suzzies..!
Quote by northeastcoupleuk
we used a snooper as we both got caught speeding but not no more thanks to this item

Which doesnt work for the new fancy "trebble line" cameras (as painted on the road) or traffic light cameras as both use under the road wire coil sensors...
What I abjest to is not the cameras per-say, but the fact that the courts dont take into account circumstances... I got red light caught on the A610/M1 roundabout, and while the law allows you to go through a red light if "a stopping would cause and accident" or "due to road conditions there was insufficent time to stop" the camera does not log information such as the blody twat rappidly catchin me up at 70 when I was already slowing down as I knew the junction had just been made 30, 10 yards from the roundabout and also that it was wet... but nope, none of this is taken into account, just the fact the photo shows I went through a red light!!!! fucking cunts!
Red light cameras evil I have posted about these on another site. A driver crossed the white line, not the junction, so that an ambulance under police escort could proceed and got "done for the technical offecne of activating the camera DESPIITE THE POLICE ACCEPTING HIS STORY THAT HE HAD NO INTENTION OF CROSSING THE JUNCTION!
Sorry for the capitals, but this story just makes me so angry!
Speed cameras are a pain, but they're not that hard to spot.
Get a GPS-type detector if you're that worried about them.
Paint etc is a waste of time - use mud or take your number plate off if you've got that much of a problem. I drove round for a month with no front plate on, in and out of london etc past quite a few police cars, and no one stopped me. If they do stop you, you just tell em someone knocked it off and you are going to get it fixed.
Quote by fabio grooverider
never quite understood why if a sign stays 30..... you have to do over 30
or if a sign says 50... you have to do over 50....
or on a motorways is the national speed limit is 70... why people have to do 85...dunno

Edit: I have removed my original post because I bolloxed up redface - don't do fag packet calcs in yer head when yer pissed I say. Martie (see below) has pointed it out but he calculated something different to what I was saying ( 10% not 10 MPH). If you travelled at say 40 mph instead of 30mph for 5000 miles a year you'd save about 40 hours a year. If you value that as working time at £25 an hour that works out at £1000 a year still a tidy sum. Thanks to Martie.
Don't misunderstand me I'm not advocating breaking the speed limit - but it could be part of the reason, don't you think?
Quote by westerross
Don't misunderstand me I'm not advocating breaking the speed limit - but it could be part of the reason, don't you think?

I just wanted to get home for a shag :twisted: biggrin
Quote by fabio grooverider
Hi folks hope this post is ok (and dosnt break the rules) I did a quick search to find out if there was a solution to these dreaded machines and would really like to know if anyone on here has used (and found it worked ) the photo reflective spray you use on your number plates , or which camera detector is best in use , I have been caught on static and mobile cameras so the time has come to invest in a little protection ......Steph .....I know I should slow down !!!!

never quite understood why if a sign stays 30..... you have to do over 30
or if a sign says 50... you have to do over 50....
or on a motorways is the national speed limit is 70... why people have to do 85...dunno
contry to popular belief the government only made 22 milion on speed cameras..... which is actually less that for example, simon cowell, pays in tax....
they are put in places for a reason.. so why the need for speed.... you see the warning before the camera.... and it isn't like they hid them, the government actually warn you to where they are on their website!!!!
I'd have an accident if i stuck to the speed limit on motorways - it's very hard to keep alert driving that slowly on empty roads in dry conditions, when you do a lot of miles.
Having said that, I've never been booked speeding on a motorway or by a camera - as I said earlier, they're not that hard to avoid if you keep a lookout.
I actually prefer the current situation. Because the UK gov relies on cameras, they ahve less traffic officers on the road. Scameras are easy to avoid, unmarked police aren't.
The only problem is time spent looking out for cameras would probably be better spend keeping an eye out for other hazards instead :dunno:
Quote by westerross

never quite understood why if a sign stays 30..... you have to do over 30
or if a sign says 50... you have to do over 50....
or on a motorways is the national speed limit is 70... why people have to do 85...dunno

This got me thinking a bit. So I did a back of the fag packet calculation (please don't say 'why do you have to smoke?' wink ).
If the average cardriver does 10,000 miles a year and let's say that they are in a hurry and spend 50% of that breaking the speed limit by say 10 miles an hour - that means that they save 10,000 X 0.5 divided by 10 = 500 hours a year.
Now the value of journey time savings on average is calculated to be just under £9 an hour (last time I looked) so that personis saving £4500 a year. That might be the answer to Fabio's question.
Don't misunderstand me I'm not advocating breaking the speed limit - but it could be part of the reason, don't you think?
I wouldn't argue with your maths tune, I know how good you are, lets face it the last time we went out for a meal together and decided to split the £66 bill three ways, you was the only one who could work out without a calculator that me and mrFC owed you £24 each.
The reality is that most of us break the speed limits and whilst there are some very good gizmo's that detect current speed detectors, they are gonna be expensive pieces of useless crap when we go down the route of satellite plotting and observation.
Quote by ChairmanMiaow
I'd have an accident if i stuck to the speed limit on motorways - it's very hard to keep alert driving that slowly on empty roads in dry conditions, when you do a lot of miles.

I couldn't agree more about motorways. We avoid them like the plague on the bike. They're no fun anyway...............straight lines are boring..............but they are really hazardous with all those switched-off, cocooned drivers taking absolutely no notice of anything around them.
At least when you're travelling at speed you are alert and awake!
Quote by Lissa

I'd have an accident if i stuck to the speed limit on motorways - it's very hard to keep alert driving that slowly on empty roads in dry conditions, when you do a lot of miles.

I couldn't agree more about motorways. We avoid them like the plague on the bike. They're no fun anyway...............straight lines are boring..............but they are really hazardous with all those switched-off, cocooned drivers taking absolutely no notice of anything around them.
At least when you're travelling at speed you are alert and awake!
Curiously enough all roads in this country are designed to avoid having straights that are too long for that very reason.
Quote by davej
I wouldn't argue with your maths tune, I know how good you are, lets face it the last time we went out for a meal together and decided to split the £66 bill three ways, you was the only one who could work out without a calculator that me and mrFC owed you £24 each.

Hey I'm a big tipper! lol
up to 6 bloody points now and i was only doing 43 miles per hour in a 40mph zone...
i say burn all speed cameras....
I agree with Lissa the speed limits are a bit long in the tooth.
Latest information says that the gov have put a hold on new speed camera sites although laser detectors will soon be illegal the GPS speed camera locators aren't and won't be. One of the cheapest is the inforad at about £80 and will give you a warning for mobile and fixed camera positions as although the cameras can be mobile there locations have to be approved and are therefor mapped on the locator websites. The gov have to provide this information to the mapping people.
Lets remember the are called SAFTEY CAMERAS and that's why the gov have to let us know wher the safety blackspots are...
While the local safety camera partnerships provide the info about mobile cams, in most cases they aren't going to have the vans there. They just say they are, maybe, in the next week or so, possibly......traffic using the gps location system slow down in THAT area and the rest have to as well. A bit like the 56 mph on trucks (until the drivers foundout how to remove the fuses).
Most mway cams are on gantrys, you look for the space bars on the road.....well, most of those are spoofs now as well !
If you're in Northants, don't be fooled by the cams looking at the other side of the road, loads of cams now do BOTH sides at the same time...look for the space bars on BOTH sides...loads of bikers have been caught by this one...While I'm on about Northants, the speed-over-distance-cams (BIG cams on BIG gantrys) that photo you passing a measured distance and calculate your speed over that distance, they also work over the NEXT measured distance as well....so you think "great, I've got out of that by doing 53 over the last space so I'll speed up a bit...WRONG...the bloody things go on for MILES (one of the best laybys in Northants has two of these right at the end of it....that should slow the drive-bys down a bit)
Also note that the truvelo cams are digital....they can also be used as cctv....
Coming soon: number plates with encased transponders
Personally, I find that keeping at or below the speed limit works for me !
hmmmm....its not just the 60quid fine that scares me...its the bump in the insurance when you get the 3 points that scares me!!
ill tell you something that oes work...hairspray!!
even the cheap stuff from asdas ect...just spray a few coats on the back plate! but then u are running the risk of having that copper follow u with his camera!
but , as is the overriding mesage, just dont speed! ( when goin past a camera anyway!) wink
ill tell you something that oes work...hairspray!!
even the cheap stuff from asdas ect...just spray a few coats on the back plate! but then u are running the risk of having that copper follow u with his camera!
quote] but if you get away if will be aclose shave lol
Quote by westerross

never quite understood why if a sign stays 30..... you have to do over 30
or if a sign says 50... you have to do over 50....
or on a motorways is the national speed limit is 70... why people have to do 85...dunno

This got me thinking a bit. So I did a back of the fag packet calculation (please don't say 'why do you have to smoke?' wink ).
If the average cardriver does 10,000 miles a year and let's say that they are in a hurry and spend 50% of that breaking the speed limit by say 10 miles an hour - that means that they save 10,000 X 0.5 divided by 10 = 500 hours a year.
Now the value of journey time savings on average is calculated to be just under £9 an hour (last time I looked) so that person is gaining £4500 a year. That might be the answer to Fabio's question.
Don't misunderstand me I'm not advocating breaking the speed limit - but it could be part of the reason, don't you think?
Sorry, you have made a huge errror in your calculation.
If someone does 10,000 miles a year their saving will be a fraction of yours, depending on their average speed (with a 10% uplift and 50 % of the time).
Thus if they average 40 mph their saving is (10,000 / 40 x 10%) X 0.5
Thus they may save 12.5 hours, which at an average £9 per hour is
Of course the extra speed will add to their fuel consumption, reducing the saving. Further, in towns at least, much of the saving is illusory - they just wait for longer at the next red light.
Quote by super_nova
ill tell you something that oes work...hairspray!!
even the cheap stuff from asdas ect...just spray a few coats on the back plate! but then u are running the risk of having that copper follow u with his camera!
wink

if hairspray does work it would be better on the front plate as most cameras now take a pic of the front of the car so they can also get a pic of your face confused
writing that last post reminded me of something lol
a few years ago i was on my bike on the way to devon going through a small village, on the way out is a forward facing camera which i forgot & got flashed confused
i was half way up the hill before i realised i didnt have a number plate on front so turned round & flashed the camera another three times with my legs sticking out & over my handlebars :lol: :lol:
the devon police have some great pics of me :lol: :lol:
Quote by westerross

never quite understood why if a sign stays 30..... you have to do over 30
or if a sign says 50... you have to do over 50....
or on a motorways is the national speed limit is 70... why people have to do 85...dunno

This got me thinking a bit. So I did a back of the fag packet calculation (please don't say 'why do you have to smoke?' wink ).
If the average cardriver does 10,000 miles a year and let's say that they are in a hurry and spend 50% of that breaking the speed limit by say 10 miles an hour - that means that they save 10,000 X 0.5 divided by 10 = 500 hours a year.
Now the value of journey time savings on average is calculated to be just under £9 an hour (last time I looked) so that person is gaining £4500 a year. That might be the answer to Fabio's question.
Don't misunderstand me I'm not advocating breaking the speed limit - but it could be part of the reason, don't you think?
Sorry, you have made a huge errror in your calculation.
If someone does 10,000 miles a year their saving will be a fraction of yours, depending on their average speed (with a 10% uplift and 50 % of the time).
Thus if they average 40 mph their saving is (10,000 / 40 x 10%) X 0.5
Thus they may save 12.5 hours, which at an average £9 per hour is
Of course the extra speed will add to their fuel consumption, reducing the saving. Further, in towns at least, much of the saving is illusory - they just wait for longer at the next red light.
I never ever ever speed in built up areas. But I find it really hard not to on motorways and dual carriageways. Not just because it is frustrating driving slowly when the road and conditions would allow for a higher safe speed but because when every other car on the road is doing over 70mph then you pretty much have no choice but to keep up with the flow of traffic. You are taught that your driving should not cause another driver to have to stop, SLOW DOWN or change direction.
Get a couple of small slave flash guns from your local photography shop. These are the ones that trigger from the light of the main flash going off and are meant to provide "fill-in" flash for photgraphy.
Put one in the front window, one in the back and when the flash goes off they will reply in kind. This will hopelessly over expose the image and the camera cant see a thing.
This idea was dreamt up by some celeb's minders and was first used to frustrate papparazzi trying to take photos of people getting in and out of limos. (The guns are let into the door panels)
It was tested a couple of years ago by What Car" and it works a treat.
Of course, it's illegal.
And it won't work on the new fangled cameras that don't take flash photos.
try getting done for drivin in a bus lane over the xmas period i got a loverly 50 gbp fine.
the road was bloody empty.....and i was ina road i didnt know and ended up driving in the bus lane grrrrr....
pished of Mike