Seem to be two streams of argument here if I read it right ...
Get rid of the stealth cam ... because there does not seem to be a reason why someone watching should have reason to keep the fact that they are watching from the people on webcam?
Agreed.
I think is the argument that the person on webcam should be seen by nobody unless they have explicitly invited that person to view? Or is the argument that public view is ok as the person on webcam can 'block' someone they don't want or feel comfortable is viewing ?
I would go with the fact that as it's a public chatroom, if you're camming, then other people 'should' be able to see you ... so long as you have the option to 'block' ... for 'invite only' I think that's what 'private chatrooms' are for ... bit like you have private rooms in most swingers clubs.
My point is nothing is anything but stealthy on this site, Its still possible to view all the forums without even logging in or being a member! Cams and chatrooms I agree member only but even if you don't "show up " everything is still traceable on the SH database. as one is still logged on.!
Doesn't the use of a stealth mode on cam's and the ability to NOT be able to block someone from viewing your cam, and also the use of winks as a form of spam go against the privacy policy of the site, and I quote:
"General Privacy Statement
It's quite simple. We will never use any information you give us for anything other than the administration of this site, helping you to make the most of it. This means we will never give any other third party access to any of your information, full stop.
If you set your options in the Photo Ads and Forum sections of this site to anonymous/hidden, then no-one will have access to your email address apart from us and our moderators, and then only in the official capacity of helping to run this site.
You will NEVER have problems with spam as a result of using this site if you set your options appropriately. In fact, you can use this site completely anonymously, until you are ready to take things further with someone when you decide to.
We do ask your browser to set cookies. Of course, there is no malicious or underhand intent here. We use these cookies to enable you to login to the various systems, carrying around your username and password for example. We also use cookies to provide us with anonymous statistics on traffic to our site - this is perfectly normal and nothing to be concerned about we assure you."
I dont cam very often, but when I do its mainly for the benefit of those who know me personally or for those who I have had regular contact with on here or in the chat rooms. I dont think that a stealth option is a good idea. Why should I show my face to someone I dont even know is watching?
I dont have anything to hide.....Like minxy my avatar is me (believe me if I was going to use a fake picture, it would be a better one than that.....), but I object to having people hiding behind software. Perhaps Im over reacting, but I just find it too creepy, even for me.....
Its a turn off, is that not enough?
Dont forget to VOTE!
i've never used the chatroom here, but, Get rid of it!........why? we'll consider these two things
i know of at least one woman on the site who gets a thrill out of arranging a meet with someone and then waiting, tied up & blindfolded, for him to come round. this is her thrill, her choice, but what if he decided to bring a mate without asking? she hasn't given consent so this would be a violation of her wishes, . so although it's not on the same par, hows the new stealth cam viewer any different. if you want to go on open cam it's your choice, if you want to have a private 1-2-1 or group session then you choose who it's with. allowing just anyone to view any cam is just an obscene violation of the users of this site.
and what would happen if this happened?
every year from july onwards it's silly season for 6 weeks, the kids get out of school and find this place. so imagine if little billy (aged 13 years old) gets his dads credit card details and signs up for an account. he wanders into the chat room and clicks on a cam in stealth mode to find someone committing any number of sexual acts. as a minor would the cam owner be liable for procecution under one of the obscene publication acts/ sexual abuse laws etc (you can bet the site owners have sheilded themselves with the T&C on signup, but what about the users) and this doesn't even take in any moral standards of the users or general public. and what if the gutter press got hold of this incident? you can bet the entire scene would get dragged through the dirt and shat out the other end.
so although just hypothetical, and maybe a little tenuious, i seem to have put more thought into it than the admin.
this scene is all about consent, no means no and not being able to choose who you interact is just plain ridicules
Just because I am paranoid does not mean people are watching me ! So what are these stealth people who don't do anything going to do exactly ?
am not being funny but I do know of one member on here who has made all his posts comments ect copyright to himself how would the owners go on if we all did that
Well provided you don't "copy" word for word, and pass it off as your own , you can still Quote, and as this is a forum and not a book I would say copyright here is utter tosh !
ok a test: I hereby own all copyrights to our names sentances and (images sent via camera on this and any other site and therefore reseve the right to charge any site a fee if they allow my image (without my consent to be viewed)
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I take your point on pics and movies though, but viewing is not copyright. If one did copy cams and use on another site for profit then well I think that could be a valid point. although maybe getting a bit off topic for this thread.
You dont really understand what stealth means do you peenut??
