How many vegetarians get off on the smell of freshly grilled bacon or, indeed, occasionally sneak the odd bacon butty?
"He genuinely was not 'attracted' to men, just liked a bit of cock now and again"
Wanting cock = not straight. Surely it's that simple?
I think perhaps the whole 'labelling' of sexuality is difficult and not a black and white issue, *but* you are not straight if you fancy the same sex/are sexually active with the same sex.
You may be more straight than bi, and may be uncomfortable with 'labelling' yourself as 'bi' but while there are people out there who are 100% straight and would not dream of having a bit of cock/pussy every now and then, then you can't really claim to be totally straight.
Sexuality is a spectrum after all, with extremes at either end....
Wow I can't believe I've created so much debate. :shock:
I still think we're trying to be rigid with labels. I think most people have a curiosity even if they class themselves as str8, bi or gay. For many that pendulem swings in various %s one way or another throughout your life, depending on various situations, experiences, people you meet, and where you are psychologically. I suppose if your going to put a label on it, the closest thing I wouls say is bi-curious str8 men. I know from personal experience that at times I feel totally gay and other times I feel bisexual, so surely you must get predominantly str8 men feeling attraction to men from time to time, even if its just wanking off together at str8 porn.
One other thing, what about when you have 2 or more men with one woman all sputing over her at the same time or when 2 men have both their cocks in a woman's mouth or other orafice where both cocks are touching each other/getting spunk on each other?
My last post on this thread, no more 2 say 'cept
I'ts a shame that some peeps :-
~ may be threatened by the blurring of the lines of those labels - no need
~ can't accept that str8 bi gay etc has different meanings to different people - really is that simple
Also on a site like this people should be allowed to call/label themselves exactly what they like
Happy Swinging (of that sexuality pendulum) xxx
My coat says “BENCH” on it, it’s just a coat. My trainers have “Addidas” on them but they are just trainers. My T-shirt is from “George – ASDA” is any less of a T-shirt than my mates that say “Armarni”?
I’m sorry but I really dislike all this labelling with regard to sexuality, as long as all are consenting adults and are having fun, enjoying life’s experiences. I don’t really care what label someone else has decided to try & put on a person, they are simply consenting adults enjoying life.
LG
I'm afraid that I am being misread and misquoted. I'm not going to reiterate my points as you either understand what I am saying or not.
I have tried to make it *implicit* that I, personally, think that sexuality is not something that can be labelled but it is up to the individuals involved if they wish to use labels or not... there was never any mention of judgement if people do or do not use these lables - it is their choice entirely.
The fact is there are some men (and women) who are more comfortable labelling themselves and some that aren't. Again it is their call and no one is saying that one way is better than the other.
Given that this whole thread was someone saying that all men *must* be bi in some way I find it comical that people take offence at me saying that that may not be the case - if we are all so happy with everyone being who they are sexually then what is the problem with me (or other people) saying that someone *could* be 100% straight?
In any case, I think that we can all agree that as long as we are all having fun and consenting to it, then it's the best thing for all
WildBcup - u keep talkin in terms of 'claiming to be' and 'seperating bi from str8' as if the 100% is some kind of 'ultimate' state that shoudn't be tainted with 'bi' ness
I will try not to take offence with this, as a bisexual woman myself I can't see how or why I would think that being 100% straight is some kind of 'ultimate' state.
My comments on 'straightness' were totally down to the fact that there were some people on this thread who seemed unable to believe that a man (or a woman) could be 100% straight... I was just commenting on the fact that there is 100% straight, 100% gay and a huge, HUGE spectrum of those inbetween. Without judgement!
It is all well and good to go on about not labelling people and so on, but some people feel comfortable with labels and should be allowed to label themselves without being told by someone else that they *cannot* be that way because no one can be 100% anything. The only person who knows their own true sexuality is themselves. I was defending that point.
Absolutley no offence meant WildBcup - I think in aroundabout way we agree XXXXX Have a fun filled weekend - an wot a gr8 spectrum it is :-)
I can't see a problem here to me there is straight and then there is all the rest which is'nt straight. I'm with mazandden on this it seems quite clear cut the only label here is straight the rest of it is not...who cares and who gives a toss. The fact that an interest in same sex sex just deviates from straight.
Straight is straight is straight its a line no deviation anything else is not straight I see no problem with that. I agree and applaud the fact that that there are countless deviations from straight and thats great people get what they can out of sex and good luck to all and sundry. I hope that a person may be allowed to be straight if they choose.
In here of all places I assume that most people use the terms just to depict what they are interested in with out fear of ridecule or derision. Otherwise how are we to explain to others our predilection?
Lost - Sweet, whilst most would agree - the issue became one of definitions of sexualities and the rigidity of such definitions and labels tho admittedly needed to describe what your are after. Also the point was made, or tried, for the right for someone who may be predominantly str8 to call him/herself such without having a different label questioned/imposed by others. Essentially tho how I think we are all trying to say that labels do not matter.Interesting tho your choice of words:
deviates
Thanx Lost :- Interesting choice of word 'deviates'- mere semantics. I'm no language expert tho and chosen words are uniquely personal. I was making no other judgement save that it was interesting.
Labels ? Unfortunatley we can't get away from them and discussions such as these are somewhat bound by their use - unavoidable - ah well.
And the 'Be who you want to be on here' should be the SH tag line
Thanx for that - Bri :thumbup:
Excuse me for butting in...
I don't post in the forum as often as I perhaps should but just wanted to say that I have been reading this thread with real interest.
Some great points raised - and, although I can see the point about labels being useful to appeal to appropriate people if you are advertising on here, aside from that I think I subscribe more to the 'be whatever you want to be' school of thought.
But anyway, I'm not trying to be contentious... just to say it has been a really interesting post, IMHO!
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personally id say they not comfy with their sexuality and in denial a bit, i knew a guy who only played with pre op transexuals cause he though that still made his straight, simple fact is if you play with people of your own sex as well as the opposite sex that makes you bi in anyones books?? right??????? 
give the guy a break, encourage him to go for his incredibly harmless (aside from the cleaning) fantasy, round of applause when he does pull this one off !
it off. I think we are just trying to understand the straight male playing, doing in front of another male and not classing themselves as Bi or curious.
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