Just after other peoples opinion on this or to see if it is just us being a bit silly.
A club that we like going to, have started to organise Greedy Girl nights and as this is something we have not tried, we decided we would give it a go, but we have checked with the organiser and he has told us that he will have a photographer at the club on the night, taking photos of the action. I did raise concerns with the organiser but the response was that faces would be deleted if we didn't feel comfortable.
I always thought that clubs and event organisers should have a duty of care for the people attending and aware of the need for privacy. The organiser of this particular event (which is not via Swinging Heaven and is not being organised by the club, although they have given permission for the photos to be taken) does advertise his parties on the Internet and on Twitter, so really do feel uncomfortable about this being allowed.
Is it us being overly sensitive with this?
We would be concerned too.
We don't even like photos of us being taken at a social, so no way we'd want us to be caught on film at this type of event. In this case it sounds like they're using their punters as advertising fodder simply to promote themselves. People will need to vote with their feet on this one I think. Maybe then they'll get the message. ;)
A few years ago at SH munches it was a rule that no photos were to be taken. Same rule went at private parties we went to. And a camera at a swingers club would invite physical injury !!
Now it seems that everyone has a camera phone out at parties even when play is happening !! Makes us nervous and annoyed !!
Once your photo is taken, you have no control of where it will end up !
We would not attend any play party if we knew in advance people would be taking photos.
John & Shel
definition of a Social / Munch, the following link may be of help –
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/65788.html
and specifically
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/assets/Munch_and_Social_Guidelines.pdf
sadly no mention of cameras.
However for all the ones we've been involved with contains this in the final details
:small-print: ALSO we ask you to respect other people’s privacy and therefore request that you DO NOT bring a camera or use camera phones at the Social. Anyone seen using them, will be asked to leave.
I wouldn't be happy about it either :thumbup:
stick to your guns, we would be very pissed off. and would not let anyone take pics of us at a club, party or social. in a private situation with our consent and no faces maybe. but what they are suggesting is a breach of your privacy and we would not attend a club who allowed this.
I would not be comfortable with a pic of me potentially ending up plastered all over the internet.
However: - this is an event organiser who has made very clear what the event will entail and nobody is making you go - you go under your free will?
I think your anger is really disappointment? - It sounds like you feel it would have been a brilliant opportunity, if only they would not threaten to film you? So really a good opportunity, dashed?
I'm afraid you will just have to suck up your disappointment (and express it to the organiser?) and decide whether the event is for you. In the end the best thing to do is to vote with you feet on this one!
Are you being oversensitive? - No, we are all individuals. Rule number 1, if you feel uncomfortable about doing something, walk away.
We wouldn't want any pics either!
I seem to recall something about all persons that appear in photos nowadays have to sign a model release form. Unless its somewhere like out on the street where it would be impossible. I think it's to do with privacy laws.
I have been to courses for work where a photographer was present doing publicity shots and we had to sign otherwise he couldn't use the material legally.
I'm sure SH must have a legal adviser somewhere who could help.
Pete
there are always photographers at fetish clubs but they always ask if it OK to take pics first, if its not they move on
but then I'm a believer that the swinging fraternity could learn a lot from how fetish clubs are run and the occupants conduct them selves.
Thanks guys, we have decided we wont risk going to this event and have told the organiser the reason why. They did say they wouldn't take our photo if we didn't want it taken, or they would blank our faces out, but I just don't think that swingers clubs and cameras go together, so would not be able to relax. Just hate the idea of a photo of us ending up on Twitter or the organisers profile on another site.
I think -as I read about his event, that "if the photo's were for the participants use only" and didn't capture anyone unwilling it would be ok.
the only other time , of course, is if I brought my camera, no memory card but just to have a good old perv!!!!!
We have a club local to us which we will not use because they have security cameras all over the outside and inside of the building, this is a requirement in Stoke on Trent for all licensed premises (not UK wide) so the only way a club here can avoid the problem is to run the venue as a "bring your own alcohol" club.
The law in the UK says that when giving planning permission for a licensed venue the Council can insist on security cameras but this is normally only done when it is requested by the Police or the venue has a history of drug abuse, violence etc, Stoke Council have decided on a carte blanche policy and insist on cameras for all licensed premises.
Not saying the club would use the recorded images for anything but security but if I am in a playroom I want it to be private not subject to the possibility of hacking or theft or some council/police official checking it out at a later date.
