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Tax Increase on 4X4's Now spireling in to the caravan debate

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Quote by dpg230272
here here sheddy well said (and theres us thinking you spoke bollox) lol :lol:
in fact the hgv of today probably gives out less gases than my p reg 1.8 petrol taxi a friend of mine is a haulier and the lenghths and costs he has to go to over the past 2 years to bring his existing trucks in line with government guidelines has nearly crippled him and at one point nearly put him out of business.
sheddy i can get you some red diesel cheap :giggle: :giggle:
if theres any ministry or tax inspectors reading this the above comment was a joke (honest) wink :lol: :wink: :lol: :wink: :lol:
p.s andy2120 where you been all week we've missed you :yawn: :yawn:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx

I'm sorry dpg230272 but you'll have to pass me the spoon whilst I eat humble Pie because aparntely I who has worked in the haulage industry for 15 years and been around it for 30 years (family also run trucks as well as farms) aint got a clue about stuff like this compared to andy 0898 (or whatever it is) and his imaginary (probabley) degree confused
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god are you still up sheedy do you never sleep
.................off to fetch ladel lol :lol: :lol:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx
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Quote by dpg230272
god are you still up sheedy do you never sleep
.................off to fetch ladel lol :lol: :lol:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx

To the man with the scary avatar :lol: Yes i do sleep but i've just come back from a night out hence my poorer than usual spelling drinkies
Pete_sw
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Quote by dpg230272
god are you still up sheedy do you never sleep
.................off to fetch ladel lol :lol: :lol:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx

Sleep? how could he possibly sleep ............. the RING has many hidden powers that cannot be resisted by a mere Hobbit ......................................
aint that right Sassy?
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gollum isnt scary cos you have had a drink it just looks like it lol :lol: :lol:
ive just got in from work popped on here for 5mins or so you know how time flies when your reading.
anyway im off to bed now mate nite sheedy nite jon boy :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx
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lol :lol: pete
nite pete :giggle: :giggle:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx
twos_company
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Quote by dpg230272
god are you still up sheedy do you never sleep
.................off to fetch ladel lol :lol: :lol:
mr and mrs dpg xxxx

u home?
we just got in
lovejoy68
Orgasminator
well im looking to buy a new motor at the moment not interested in a 4x4 but looking at some american v8s so will be in the same boat confused
its about time the tax disk was done away with & was added the the petrol it would be a much better way of taxing transport
just my oppinion for what its worth biggrin
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Quote by lovejoy68
well im looking to buy a new motor at the moment not interested in a 4x4 but looking at some american v8s so will be in the same boat confused

its about time the tax disk was done away with & was added the the petrol it would be a much better way of taxing transport
just my oppinion for what its worth biggrin

I agrre with this.
I would like to hear Sheddy's pov on this .
Phredd.
Sarah
Sex God
What CC does this cover up to / from, tried looking on web and it is not very clear.
Many thanks xx
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Quote by andy2120
the 4x4's arnt the the problem buses (especially london buses) & HGV's are the most polluting vehicles on the road.

Whoa they’re my eager friend where do you pull the fact that HGV's are the most polluted vehicles? Trust me delve in to the subject and you'll be amazed how clean they are. All new trucks have to comply with euro 4 emissions meaning that they HAVE to abide by set standards that are bloody strict let me tell you hence on trucks we are now seeing a reduction in engine capacity whilst still maintaining the same power due to technological advances. The most significant example can be seen in smaller trucks that have now reduced their number of cylinders from 6 to 4 to help reduce pollutants.
Sheddy a former HGV driver now runs a HGV related business and is also a member of the IRTE (yes I’ve got letters after my name) lol sorry not jumping on you but I will defend the haulage industry to my last breath. Remember if you own it a truck delivered it.
i have degree in environmental engineeing - i know fair about all sorts of pollution and laws which go with it
Then you ought to know that sheddy is correct in what he says..
Many manufacturers are ahead of the game.....Iveco for one......They already have Euro6 vehicles running round...
But on the other hand....
The tax disc in the window of my 4x4 costs the same as the tax disc in the window of a lorry !!!!!!!!!
I do 30+ to the gallon and the lorry does around 17mpg....
Where is that fair ????
And both of the above mentioned vehicles probably do more than Gordons free fukin executive motor as well.... mad :x :x :x :x
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Quote by Sarah
What CC does this cover up to / from, tried looking on web and it is not very clear.
Many thanks xx

Its all to do with the emissions bracket of your vehicle and will only affect new cars?
Wont make many friends in the motor industry either will he???
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4 x 4 cars and truck are mans nearest thing to a penis extension lol ...................................................... runs away hahahahahahahaha
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Quote by Medic_1
well im looking to buy a new motor at the moment not interested in a 4x4 but looking at some american v8s so will be in the same boat confused

its about time the tax disk was done away with & was added the the petrol it would be a much better way of taxing transport
just my oppinion for what its worth biggrin

I agrre with this.
I would like to hear Sheddy's pov on this .
Phredd.
Well here it is :? The way our transport is taxed on fuel and road fund licence is way due for an overhaul. What I don't understand is why a someone who is using fuel to earn a living such as in haulage or courier or even taxis still have to pay the same rate of duty on fuel as someone who is using it for leiusure purposes. But on the other foot I honestly don't think its fair that those who only make the odd journey a week in a vehicle have to pay the same amoutn of road fund licence as a person who drives their vehicle every day.
So in a nut shell my view is scrap road tax and put differant levels of duty on road fuel to suit the application you use it for. A sort of pence per mile basis but with rebates for those who depend on it for a living. smile
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Quote by sheddy
So in a nut shell my view is scrap road tax and put differant levels of duty on road fuel to suit the application you use it for. A sort of pence per mile basis but with rebates for those who depend on it for a living. smile

Its a noble idea ......But would never work..
You have already said your vehicle is multi purpose..
You fill it up to use it for work.....
You finish work and fancy a cpl of days away in the caravan...
What do you do with the fuel left in the tank that you have bought at "work rate" ?
You cant use it for recreation as that would be fraudulent.....
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Quote by Steve_Mids
Its a noble idea ......But would never work..
You have already said your vehicle is multi purpose..
You fill it up to use it for work.....
You finish work and fancy a cpl of days away in the caravan...
What do you do with the fuel left in the tank that you have bought at "work rate" ?
You cant use it for recreation as that would be fraudulent.....

Alas in my instance its probally the case. However I still feel it would be of advatage to one specific use vehicles such as trucks as the industry is already on its knees and getting lower
as time passes. sad smile
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Quote by corriefem
4 x 4 cars and truck are mans nearest thing to a penis extension lol ...................................................... runs away hahahahahahahaha

Unfortuantley your right confused hence i'm off out now to buy a mini moto :rascal: bolt
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Quote by sheddy
well im looking to buy a new motor at the moment not interested in a 4x4 but looking at some american v8s so will be in the same boat confused

its about time the tax disk was done away with & was added the the petrol it would be a much better way of taxing transport
just my oppinion for what its worth biggrin

I agrre with this.
I would like to hear Sheddy's pov on this .
Phredd.
Well here it is :? The way our transport is taxed on fuel and road fund licence is way due for an overhaul. What I don't understand is why a someone who is using fuel to earn a living such as in haulage or courier or even taxis still have to pay the same rate of duty on fuel as someone who is using it for leiusure purposes. But on the other foot I honestly don't think its fair that those who only make the odd journey a week in a vehicle have to pay the same amoutn of road fund licence as a person who drives their vehicle every day.
So in a nut shell my view is scrap road tax and put differant levels of duty on road fuel to suit the application you use it for. A sort of pence per mile basis but with rebates for those who depend on it for a living. smile
I agree 100% on scrapping the road tax BUT keep the level of duty the same and let industry/commercial businesses claim back rebates (of a fixed rate) in annual tax returns.
Shoot me down if you can come up with a better idea please.
phredd = who drives about 6000 miles per year unless going to a munch lol
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sorry steve, little hijack here
does your new avatar resemble you at all? lol
hijack over wink
Shaz x
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Quote by Hillfolk
All you people who drive Chelsea tractors you can afford an extra 20 quid a year. After all. What pisses me off is I have a small collection of vehicles and I have to insure them all even though I can only drive/ride one a ta time. now tht'a the real rip off.
Moan moan Awwwwww wink
Dawn and Mark

How come you can not SORN them ?? Just a thought smile
phredd
sexycouple22
Sexlightened
Tell me about being arse by the goverment. I've got a 3.6 jag, not because i'm rich or flash but because i've always wanted to be the saint (younger members might want to ask their dads or very possibly their mums). I get beasted on fuel, as it only does 17 mpg around town and i get hammered with road tax and insurance while some spotty little git in a c*rsa with a body kit and huge wheels( which he probably hasn't declared on his insurance ) pays about 10p for tax. I get my own back when thay try to race though. The looks on their lttle faces when a huge 16 year old barge( same as most of their girlfriends) pulls away from them with a roar is great. Sometimes it's fun to be a petty child. biggrin
jeff
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Quote by Shaz_n_Tony
sorry steve, little hijack here
does your new avatar resemble you at all? lol
hijack over wink
Shaz x

Shireen seems to think so but i have other ideas...
Well..........I would wouldnt I ??
biggrin
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Quote by Hillfolk
All you people who drive Chelsea tractors you can afford an extra 20 quid a year.
Dawn and Mark

Firstly.....Its £45 a year..
Secondly.....I dont live anywhere near Chelsea..
Thirdly......Why should I pay more road tax simply because I choose to holiday in this country(using my caravan I tow with my 4x4) and I wish to do so safely.....(A medium saloon is capable of towing said caravan but is acting at its limits whereas the 4x4 is working to only 75% of its limits) biggrin
fabio
Sex God
I don't know a lot about the subject...so i went and had a look at what was actually said.....rather than look at a tabloid headline... (very good job by the way... do you work for the daily mail????)
Quote by Gordon Brown
"Cars with the lowest rate of emissions would pay no vehicle excise duty but the 1% of most polluting cars would pay £210"

so we are talking about the top 1% of polluting cars (not necessarily 4x4's)... and if this then subsidises the cars with the lowest rate of emissions (bio-diesel, electric ect) to go free then surely it can't be a bad thing.. and maybe people will take that into consideration when buying a car....
but hey, what do i know... i am but a mere pedrestrian who coughs when a car with a dodgy exhaust goes past......!!! smile :) :) :)
sean xxxxxx
meat2pleaseu
Sex God
Guess it's not a good time to post the idea that caravans should be subject to roadtax, mot's and insurance then? bolt
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If you go to the website you'll notice that the increase means a new taxation band. Vehicles falling into this band will pay the increase. You can check it on your V5. Look at the date that your vehicle has to be taxed after....
As to trucks, their weight means they destroy roads faster than cars. That's why there are so many damaged roads.... (!).....and their pollutant output is higher because their engines are bigger....If the greens have their way, the artics will be forced to drive to a rail terminal and then board a low-loader and be driven to another rail terminal and then de-load and drive to their delivery point.....and the EU thinks it's a good idea too, so good that the wagons are already being tested..
twos_company
Sex God
Quote by sheddy

so where does your fire engine come in the road tax debate???

Aha it's a classic vehicle so it's tax excempt wink
so ideal 4 caravan towing then?????????
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Quote by twos_company

so where does your fire engine come in the road tax debate???

Aha it's a classic vehicle so it's tax excempt wink
so ideal 4 caravan towing then?????????
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Doubt it as it only does 25 MPh :shock: why the hell its got flashing lights and a bell i'll be dammed if I know as trust me it won't go speeding past anything. lol :lol:
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Quote by sheddy

so where does your fire engine come in the road tax debate???

Aha it's a classic vehicle so it's tax excempt wink
so ideal 4 caravan towing then?????????
rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Doubt it as it only does 25 MPh :shock: why the hell its got flashing lights and a bell i'll be dammed if I know as trust me it won't go speeding past anything. lol :lol:
:lol:
What era are you in ? Does that shed go back in time ? :lol:
Phredd