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Teachers - what should they be doing?
Quote by benrums0n
Im my humble opinion i see no merit in a teacher bashing thread, shouldn't it be closed?
A simple answer to that is no!
We are all adults here and everyone has a right to reply or not as the case may be. As long as it stays within the AUP of this site, which so far it has. All subjects like this can be highly charged, so expect some highly charged comments. But the AUP prohibits:
Any comments which are hateful, or racist.
Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards fellow members, Ops/Mods or Administration staff.
Given that teachers are bound to make up a proportion of members, I think it breaches the AUP both in terms of the intention of the original post and subsequent posts.
I love a debate but I don't like hateful, abusive or aggressive behaviour towards any indiviual or group.
Any comments which are hateful, or racist.
Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards fellow members, Ops/Mods or Administration staff.
Given that teachers are bound to make up a proportion of members, I think it breaches the AUP both in terms of the intention of the original post and subsequent posts.
I love a debate but I don't like hateful, abusive or aggressive behaviour towards any indiviual or group.
Quote by benrums0n
But the AUP prohibits:
Any comments which are hateful, or racist.
Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards fellow members, Ops/Mods or Administration staff.
Given that teachers are bound to make up a proportion of members, I think it breaches the AUP both in terms of the intention of the original post and subsequent posts.
I love a debate but I don't like hateful, abusive or aggressive behaviour towards any indiviual or group.
Sorry but I don't agree this has really been the case.I am sure that with FB being a teacher she would not want this thread closed...I may be wrong though. :shock:
If you was to close every thread where there were aggresive undertones, you would hardly have any left. It is a Forum where people have strong views, and as far as I can see that is what has been expressed so far...strong views.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
But the AUP prohibits:
Any comments which are hateful, or racist.
Abusive or aggressive behaviour towards fellow members, Ops/Mods or Administration staff.
Given that teachers are bound to make up a proportion of members, I think it breaches the AUP both in terms of the intention of the original post and subsequent posts.
I love a debate but I don't like hateful, abusive or aggressive behaviour towards any indiviual or group.
Sorry but I don't agree this has really been the case.I am sure that with FB being a teacher she would not want this thread closed...I may be wrong though. :shock:
If you was to close every thread where there were aggresive undertones, you would hardly have any left. It is a Forum where people have strong views, and as far as I can see that is what has been expressed so far...strong views.
You're right Kent, I don't see the need to lock it as long as nobody is abusive. As long as people like TooHot are prepared to accept that people will disagree and take whatever is thrown back, on the chin.
Quote by Too Hot
Basically then, Bonedigger hit the nail on the head - this is a teacher bashing thread for the sake of it.
correct :twisted:
However, this confirmation means that TooHot won't be able to deny that he deliberately set out to be inflammatory.
Sex God
Quote by benrums0n
Yes you're probably right Kent If i felt strongly about it I would have reported it. As it is I thought it best to say I think its was intended to be and remains an abusive thread rather than to imply acceptance of such threads.
As long as TooHot doesn't start complaining to anyone about reactions (within AUP) to his inflammatory comments, I don't think it's a problem.
But he still hasn't answered my question.
Sex God
Dunno what question remains unanswered, but on a slightly connected thread...
I am listening to a debate on the radio at the moment where teachers are trying to defend the exposure to kids as young as 5 or 6 the 'facts' about homosexuality.
I am calling in at our school tomorrow morning to see if this kind of rubbish is being inflicted on my kids. Teachers are very quick to pass comment that responsibility lies with parents but why was I not asked - as a parent, or any other parents for that matter? I do not want my children taught about homosexuality until they are teenagers. Just because homosexuality exists does not meen it has to be highlighted to very young children.
Regarding teacher bashing - yes - I absolutely hold my hand up to say that I did start this post to draw attention to the teaching profession and to highlight the flaws in the way that some organisations, schools and individual teachers conduct their affairs. I would never have done this had the teaching profession not pointed the finger at the armed forces. It is very easy to get a grip on the 'character' of posters by reading back their thread history and I think broadly we are non judgemental and helpful as can be seen from our thread history. We certainly don't post for postings sake as some people seem to do in order to build up a post count. (Why do people do that just as a matter of interest?)
I do not 'home teach' because not all teachers and not all schools are bad - I thought I made that clear much earlier.
BTW - for all teachers who are on this site, you might consider keeping your identities very, very secret. Another sad, pathetic flaw in our society
(Aplogies to mods for this link, but I think it worthy of inclusion - read the bit about the teacher in wales)
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I am listening to a debate on the radio at the moment where teachers are trying to defend the exposure to kids as young as 5 or 6 the 'facts' about homosexuality.
I am calling in at our school tomorrow morning to see if this kind of rubbish is being inflicted on my kids. Teachers are very quick to pass comment that responsibility lies with parents but why was I not asked - as a parent, or any other parents for that matter? I do not want my children taught about homosexuality until they are teenagers. Just because homosexuality exists does not meen it has to be highlighted to very young children.
Regarding teacher bashing - yes - I absolutely hold my hand up to say that I did start this post to draw attention to the teaching profession and to highlight the flaws in the way that some organisations, schools and individual teachers conduct their affairs. I would never have done this had the teaching profession not pointed the finger at the armed forces. It is very easy to get a grip on the 'character' of posters by reading back their thread history and I think broadly we are non judgemental and helpful as can be seen from our thread history. We certainly don't post for postings sake as some people seem to do in order to build up a post count. (Why do people do that just as a matter of interest?)
I do not 'home teach' because not all teachers and not all schools are bad - I thought I made that clear much earlier.
BTW - for all teachers who are on this site, you might consider keeping your identities very, very secret. Another sad, pathetic flaw in our society
(Aplogies to mods for this link, but I think it worthy of inclusion - read the bit about the teacher in wales)
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Quote by Too Hot
After my rant on the other thread I thought I may as well open another one with a shoe firmly on the other foot with a well aimed ammo boot right up the jacksi.
I expect teachers to prepare my children for the real world and to support the positive attitudes and informed decision making processes that I pass on as a parent.
It does not seem to work out that way because of opposing political and social idea's. Teachers no longer want to 'burden' children with excessive homework, they no longer want to have to make children to make hard and painful decisions, they seem prepared to accept that mediocrity is acceptable.
I don't buy this at all. I want children to be taught by people who have a real grasp on life. I want teachers to push children and to highlight high achievers to push on and achieve recognistion. I want teachers who care, teachers who actually give a damn and teachers who are as committed to the future well being of the youth of this country and who view complacency as a disease.
I don't think that people who have never left school and are now the custodians of Britains youth are doing a particularly good job in preparing kids for the real world - quite simply, cos they don't know about it themselves.
Discuss.....................
I suggest it isn't the teachers you should be blaming, but this and previous governments who have used schools as test-beds for their ideas both good and ludicrous, and as experiments in social engineering. Teachers are told what to teach and how while often not being given the resources to follow those instructions. They have had almost all disciplinary support taken away and get less and less support from parents and the 'management teams' that run individual schools.
Of course there are bad teachers, just as there are bad parents. The difference is that good parents have choices in how they bring up their kids but good teachers have very few choices in how or what they teach.
Before anyone makes assumptions, I am not, never have been and never would be a teacher. I do have very good friends who are however, and know beyond doubt that it a job I couldn't do. If you want better education for your children you need to understand why the education they are currently receiving is as it is, rather than blame teachers for something they no longer have very much control over.
i happen to think that the education system in this country comes into some very harsh critisism, sometimes wrongly, sometimes rightly.
generally speaking, i think ones actual understanding is often warped due to influences within the media and through some personal experiences that might happen out of the norm.
However i believe it is true to say that Those involved in teaching only have themselves to blame. At certain levels, they havnt retained the position of power and respect that they need. Some have shown themselves to be disjointed and have lost control of the pupils, the parents and their government.
When i was at school we only respected and learnt from the strict, no-nonsence kind of teacher. The ones that we HAD to call Sir or Miss. The ones that could and would punish you, gave you tons of homework, and taught you more than the syllabus Often they would reveal insights into the subject that made them tick and they taught you the methods they had learnt in order to remember and pass exams.
I think that teachers should show a united stance. Banish the softy , lefty (insert the words of TooHot)faction to the quiet corner and show a no nonsense, firm approach to the government that they are in charge ..as they know best.
Its not as if they haven't spent years of man/woman hours implementing systems of inspection and testing and blowing hot air up each-others asses over coffee.
They should take the top schools in the country... corrolate their methods and implement them accross the board. Sharpish, and with the vigour and discpline of an old-school master if need be.
The gap between good and bad has widened and someone needs to get a grip as the majority of the youth of our Nation is in the hands of a bunch of soft-arses, unwilling or unable to meet out discipline and good education.
If only controlling the masses was that easy.....
generally speaking, i think ones actual understanding is often warped due to influences within the media and through some personal experiences that might happen out of the norm.
However i believe it is true to say that Those involved in teaching only have themselves to blame. At certain levels, they havnt retained the position of power and respect that they need. Some have shown themselves to be disjointed and have lost control of the pupils, the parents and their government.
When i was at school we only respected and learnt from the strict, no-nonsence kind of teacher. The ones that we HAD to call Sir or Miss. The ones that could and would punish you, gave you tons of homework, and taught you more than the syllabus Often they would reveal insights into the subject that made them tick and they taught you the methods they had learnt in order to remember and pass exams.
I think that teachers should show a united stance. Banish the softy , lefty (insert the words of TooHot)faction to the quiet corner and show a no nonsense, firm approach to the government that they are in charge ..as they know best.
Its not as if they haven't spent years of man/woman hours implementing systems of inspection and testing and blowing hot air up each-others asses over coffee.
They should take the top schools in the country... corrolate their methods and implement them accross the board. Sharpish, and with the vigour and discpline of an old-school master if need be.
The gap between good and bad has widened and someone needs to get a grip as the majority of the youth of our Nation is in the hands of a bunch of soft-arses, unwilling or unable to meet out discipline and good education.
If only controlling the masses was that easy.....
Quote by Too Hot
I am listening to a debate on the radio at the moment where teachers are trying to defend the exposure to kids as young as 5 or 6 the 'facts' about homosexuality.
I am calling in at our school tomorrow morning to see if this kind of rubbish is being inflicted on my kids. Teachers are very quick to pass comment that responsibility lies with parents but why was I not asked - as a parent, or any other parents for that matter? I do not want my children taught about homosexuality until they are teenagers. Just because homosexuality exists does not meen it has to be highlighted to very young children.
Absolutely not. Teachers will ensure there are far too many poofs and dykes around if they suddenly start teaching about it.
That is exactly why I was so confused about my sexuality for so long. Why I got married and had a son. Why I upset that man’s life because I thought that sex with your husband stopped when you got married. Why he found it so hard to move on as he loved me and couldn’t figure out why I didn’t love him. Why I couldn’t relate to other women who were straight.
I was being taught about homosexuality in the school I attended from a young age. If those damn teachers hadn’t been inflicting their points of view on me I would have never been bent. I would have never played Drs and Nurses with other girls. I would have never been physically repulsed by little boys wanting to play kiss chase with me. I would have embraced it all.
Damn teachers. Can I sue?
I truly realise that ignorance and swinging really do co-exist.
Quote by Too Hot
Yawn..............
I am asking what teachers should, or should not, do that is how I started this thread.
I have made my point in the Armed Forces in Schools thread very, very strongly.
You know the worst thing about being in the forces, or even ex forces is the realisation that the country you are doing your job for 'generally' does not give a toss about you or what you are doing because they feel so safe and secure in their insular little world.
I want and expect teachers to do a good job teaching children in a non political environment and to ensure that they get a balanced view of life to prepare them for life 'on the outside.' I don't want or expect them to be making demands on who can recruit in schools and what can be said to children (teenagers really) - that is just not their job. And to say that the armed forces do not let people know that they could be killed or may have to kill is a complete and utter nonsense and portrays just how out of touch they really are. It's on the news every day for Gods sake and has been for the last three years.
Get back to teaching, focus on how you can improve what you do and leave the armed forces alone.
My previous comment was made in response to your initial post, before reading the thread. Now I realise your post was primarily a troll here is something to consider.
You seem to have great trouble distinguishing between dislike of the armed services and dislike of the actions they are currently involved in. I support the men and women who serve this country 100% and have huge respect for them. I hate and despise the politicians who have involved them in conflicts that in my opinion they never should have been.
When you join up to serve your country you don't get to choose where you are sent or why, you rely on the people who make those decisions to make the right ones. Very few people I know believe that the decisions made regarding Iraq were the right ones or even made for the right reasons. Banning the services from schools isn't the right thing either in my opinion, but teachers should be making it clear not only that it is a valid career option, but that it involves being prepared to do things you may believe to be wrong just because you are ordered to. Doing that is fulfilling what you ask for in your OP, teaching children about the real world.
Sex God
Quote by Too Hot
Dunno what question remains unanswered, but on a slightly connected thread...
I am listening to a debate on the radio at the moment where teachers are trying to defend the exposure to kids as young as 5 or 6 the 'facts' about homosexuality.
I am calling in at our school tomorrow morning to see if this kind of rubbish is being inflicted on my kids. Teachers are very quick to pass comment that responsibility lies with parents but why was I not asked - as a parent, or any other parents for that matter? I do not want my children taught about homosexuality until they are teenagers. Just because homosexuality exists does not meen it has to be highlighted to very young children.
Do the teachers consult you on every other aspect of what they teach, or do you go in demanding to know what 'rubbish' they are being taught? If your children are about to receive any formal sex and relationship education, you should actually be informed and given the opportunity to discuss what will be taught anyway, possibly watching/inspecting whatever material the children will be having access to.
Believe me, children as young as five or six years old, ask questions about homosexuality and joke about it. I wouldn't recommend teaching them too many facts, but they do need to learn what is appropriate to discuss/comment upon in public or private. If a six-year old boy came up to you and said 'do puffs put their tails up other mens' bums?', what exactly would you recommend? Send the child to their parent for an explanation, or deal with it as you saw fit, dependent on the circumstances (ie, who is listening, location etc.)? This actually happened to me.
Quote by Too Hot
Regarding teacher bashing - yes - I absolutely hold my hand up to say that I did start this post to draw attention to the teaching profession and to highlight the flaws in the way that some organisations, schools and individual teachers conduct their affairs. I would never have done this had the teaching profession not pointed the finger at the armed forces. It is very easy to get a grip on the 'character' of posters by reading back their thread history and I think broadly we are non judgemental and helpful as can be seen from our thread history. We certainly don't post for postings sake as some people seem to do in order to build up a post count. (Why do people do that just as a matter of interest?)
None of the teaching profession on this site, pointed their finger at the Armed Forces. It was an NUT report that set this discussion off - as Cherry said, your comments would have been more appropriate on that thread. You reacted by posting a teacher bashing thread on here. I think you have been judgemental in this instance - none of us is truly non-judgemental about everything.
With regard to post count building - not a clue either.
Quote by Too Hot
I do not 'home teach' because not all teachers and not all schools are bad - I thought I made that clear much earlier.
Fair enough point, thank you for answering.
Quote by Too Hot
BTW - for all teachers who are on this site, you might consider keeping your identities very, very secret. Another sad, pathetic flaw in our society
(Aplogies to mods for this link, but I think it worthy of inclusion - read the bit about the teacher in wales)
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We are very careful - there are far too many teacher bashers about anyway, without having to worry what they'd think if they knew we were swingers! What would you think about a swinger teaching your children, knowing all they do about gay/bi/transgendered/transvestite and every other type of sexuality/person on this and other sites?
Sex God
Quote by Freckledbird
What would you think about a swinger teaching your children, knowing all they do about gay/bi/transgendered/transvestite and every other type of sexuality/person on this and other sites?
Well, we truly would be so shocked that we would feel compelled to invite him/her round for a glass of wine in our hot tub. :-)
Quote by Too Hot
Dunno what question remains unanswered, but on a slightly connected thread...
I am listening to a debate on the radio at the moment where teachers are trying to defend the exposure to kids as young as 5 or 6 the 'facts' about homosexuality.
I am calling in at our school tomorrow morning to see if this kind of rubbish is being inflicted on my kids. Teachers are very quick to pass comment that responsibility lies with parents but why was I not asked - as a parent, or any other parents for that matter? I do not want my children taught about homosexuality until they are teenagers. Just because homosexuality exists does not meen it has to be highlighted to very young children.
Regarding teacher bashing - yes - I absolutely hold my hand up to say that I did start this post to draw attention to the teaching profession and to highlight the flaws in the way that some organisations, schools and individual teachers conduct their affairs. I would never have done this had the teaching profession not pointed the finger at the armed forces. It is very easy to get a grip on the 'character' of posters by reading back their thread history and I think broadly we are non judgemental and helpful as can be seen from our thread history. We certainly don't post for postings sake as some people seem to do in order to build up a post count. (Why do people do that just as a matter of interest?)
I do not 'home teach' because not all teachers and not all schools are bad - I thought I made that clear much earlier.
BTW - for all teachers who are on this site, you might consider keeping your identities very, very secret. Another sad, pathetic flaw in our society
(Aplogies to mods for this link, but I think it worthy of inclusion - read the bit about the teacher in wales)
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This was being talked about on the Jon Gaunt show this morning, something with regard to a penguin story? :shock:
Anyways I do feel that sex education should be more about relationships than just the " act " itself. I do feel that very young children should be on a need to know basis, and at 5 years of age, they do not need to know. Yes I know people will say they watch Eastenders and have access to the internet and other stuff but.....there is always a line to be drawn on what and when something is acceptable. Whatever happened to the innocence of youth eh? They want kids to know things to early. Let them learn and then when they are old enough to understand, then teach them. Kids are very very impressionable!!
Sex God
If a child asks me a question about anything, I always answer to the best of my ability and with consideration of everything I know about that child (as well as why they asked the question). If they continue to ask, I continue to answer until they are satisfied with my explanation. I did this with my own children and they are both well-balanced young people.
Quote by kentswingers777
Anyways I do feel that sex education should be more about relationships than just the " act " itself. I do feel that very young children should be on a need to know basis, and at 5 years of age, they do not need to know. Yes I know people will say they watch Eastenders and have access to the internet and other stuff but.....there is always a line to be drawn on what and when something is acceptable. Whatever happened to the innocence of youth eh? They want kids to know things to early. Let them learn and then when they are old enough to understand, then teach them. Kids are very very impressionable!!
Do you actually know what is being taught in sex education? From your comment it seems you don't.
I agree kids are very impressionable. That is the very reason why what they learn should be factual and accurate rather than picked up in the playground from other kids.
Sex God
Quote by Unc
I agree kids are very impressionable. That is the very reason why what they learn should be factual and accurate rather than picked up in the playground from other kids.
:thumbup: absolutely!
Sex God
A few years ago my daughter came home with a letter to invite us to her school to talk to all parents about what our children were going to be taught. They showed us the video that they were going to show the children & I fully respected the way this was done. Have some faith in these teachers, they do know what they are doing.
We were also given a consent form to fill out to allow our children to be taught this subject. We do have choices as they have to consider all different cultural backgrounds.
So for me - well done teachers you do a A1 job in my eyes :thumbup:
We were also given a consent form to fill out to allow our children to be taught this subject. We do have choices as they have to consider all different cultural backgrounds.
So for me - well done teachers you do a A1 job in my eyes :thumbup:
The link below is regarding children being taught about homosexuality in certain bristol schools. The areas in which the complaints have been made are very multi cultural so my thoughts are that the majority of it could be to do with religion? I maybe wrong.
I have a young child and I wouldn`t have an issue if she was being taught about same sex relationships.
Teachers have an incredibly hard job and I know I would not like to put up with the crap that they have to endure from both parents and students.
I have a young child and I wouldn`t have an issue if she was being taught about same sex relationships.
Teachers have an incredibly hard job and I know I would not like to put up with the crap that they have to endure from both parents and students.
Quote by Unc
Anyways I do feel that sex education should be more about relationships than just the " act " itself. I do feel that very young children should be on a need to know basis, and at 5 years of age, they do not need to know. Yes I know people will say they watch Eastenders and have access to the internet and other stuff but.....there is always a line to be drawn on what and when something is acceptable. Whatever happened to the innocence of youth eh? They want kids to know things to early. Let them learn and then when they are old enough to understand, then teach them. Kids are very very impressionable!!
Do you actually know what is being taught in sex education? From your comment it seems you don't.
I agree kids are very impressionable. That is the very reason why what they learn should be factual and accurate rather than picked up in the playground from other kids.
I dont have a clue what is being taught in schools nowadays if honest. Nor do a lot of teachers as it changes every term nearly! :shock: So if a teacher teaches them correctly about sex education, are you saying that kids wont pick up in the playground what a cock or fanny is? :shock: Of course they will...its called growing up but....I would not have wanted my children at 5 or 6 to be taught about same sex relationships. Also correct me if I am wrong but...A parent can exclude their child if they want too! Its not compulsary..........yet. But you just know it will be.
The difference is when my kids were that young, they would never have dreamt about teaching kids about things like that. As I have already said why do they keep trying to take away kids innocence at such an early age? Or is it all about being hip hop?
Quote by Cherrytree
I don't see why 5 and 6 year olds should not be taught that sometimes men love men and women love women.
It's a fact of life, and I'd rather the future generations grow up with an acceptance of different ways that people live, than the intolerance that I hear in people of my generation.
Because they are still kids. :shock: Where does one draw the line on what to teach a child so young? Do you start to teach them about cocaine or heroin? Or sexualy transmitted diseases? I am in no way anti gay or anty lesbian but...I feel that they are just too young. Blimey some kids of that age can only just about write their names. Let them mature a bit and hold on to their innocence for a little longer.
Yes of course it is a fact of life, the same way that death is or drug taking is but, a parent still has the right to stop its child from hearing this in school. Why do people think that is the case? If it was fine they would not even consider asking the parents they would just go ahead, but they know a lot of parents will be unhappy about their child being taught about this, at such a young tender age, and for what it is worth that is my thoughts.
Quote by kentswingers777
I don't see why 5 and 6 year olds should not be taught that sometimes men love men and women love women.
It's a fact of life, and I'd rather the future generations grow up with an acceptance of different ways that people live, than the intolerance that I hear in people of my generation.
Because they are still kids. :shock: Where does one draw the line on what to teach a child so young? Do you start to teach them about cocaine or heroin? Or sexualy transmitted diseases? I am in no way anti gay or anty lesbian but...I feel that they are just too young. Blimey some kids of that age can only just about write their names. Let them mature a bit and hold on to their innocence for a little longer.
Yes of course it is a fact of life, the same way that death is or drug taking is but, a parent still has the right to stop its child from hearing this in school. Why do people think that is the case? If it was fine they would not even consider asking the parents they would just go ahead, but they know a lot of parents will be unhappy about their child being taught about this, at such a young tender age, and for what it is worth that is my thoughts.
Comparing my sexuality to death or drug taking is at best offensive at worst f@@kin' ignorant.
Do you think teachers give step by step instructions on how to do cunnilingus or use strap-on's or whatever else you think dykes do. And give anal sex lessons or whatever you think poofs do ?
As cherrytree said, with 5 and 6 years old they should learn that relationships are as diverse as skin and hair colour. Not because they are discovering their own sexuality (although I can tell you wholeheartedly my sexuality, and others, was 'undefined' before that)but because their home lives may be reflected in those relationships.
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The link below is regarding children being taught about homosexuality in certain bristol schools. The areas in which the complaints have been made are very multi cultural so my thoughts are that the majority of it could be to do with religion? I maybe wrong.
I have a young child and I wouldn`t have an issue if she was being taught about same sex relationships.
Teachers have an incredibly hard job and I know I would not like to put up with the crap that they have to endure from both parents and students.
Did you read the comments Lyns? :shock:
Quote by splendid_
I don't see why 5 and 6 year olds should not be taught that sometimes men love men and women love women.
It's a fact of life, and I'd rather the future generations grow up with an acceptance of different ways that people live, than the intolerance that I hear in people of my generation.
Because they are still kids. :shock: Where does one draw the line on what to teach a child so young? Do you start to teach them about cocaine or heroin? Or sexualy transmitted diseases? I am in no way anti gay or anty lesbian but...I feel that they are just too young. Blimey some kids of that age can only just about write their names. Let them mature a bit and hold on to their innocence for a little longer.
Yes of course it is a fact of life, the same way that death is or drug taking is but, a parent still has the right to stop its child from hearing this in school. Why do people think that is the case? If it was fine they would not even consider asking the parents they would just go ahead, but they know a lot of parents will be unhappy about their child being taught about this, at such a young tender age, and for what it is worth that is my thoughts.
Comparing my sexuality to death or drug taking is at best offensive at worst f@@kin' ignorant.
Do you think teachers give step by step instructions on how to do cunnilingus or use strap-on's or whatever else you think dykes do. And give anal sex lessons or whatever you think poofs do ?
As cherrytree said, with 5 and 6 years old they should learn that relationships are as diverse as skin and hair colour. Not because they are discovering their own sexuality (although I can tell you wholeheartedly my sexuality, and others, was 'undefined' before that)but because their home lives may be reflected in those relationships.
:x :xI was NEVER comparing anyones sexuality with anything. I do not and never have had any problem with same sex relationships. If people are happy then that is fantastic, and people have a right to happiness with whoever they want to. I have never judged anyones sexuality.
This thread has been about teaching very young children about it, which I am against. You think differenty and that is fine but think you have taken my comment out of all proportion. I was merely asking if a child is old enough at 5 to be taught about sex, what other things will people want them to know, and I gave some other things.
Your comments about poofs and dykes I find very offensive as you are isinuating that I am anti same sex relationships...which I am not! I never said those words which even I find offensive to use. As I have said before people in same sex relationships I do NOT have any problem with at all, I also have NO problem with a gay guy or a lesbian woman or a cd or a tg. I am glad we live in a society that now excepts this and not in the dark ages where it was not. I am sorry if you have misunderstood what I was trying to say, but never accuse me of being anything other letting people live their lives how they want to.
