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Getting this thread back on track rolleyes
Doesn't seem to have worked, Dawnie.
Have you noticed how the issues I raised are being studiously ignored? :roll: (Apart from by you, Les!) No one's answered the questions. I'm used to & love the frivolity we all bring to the forums - one of my main reasons for being on the site - but I'm genuinely curious about how people feel about the issues I raised.
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Have you noticed how the issues I raised are being studiously ignored? rolleyes (Apart from by you, Les!)

dunno :dunno: :dunno:
Firstly and obviously i can't and wouldn't name names anyway, i find it quite amusing how many people come on these threads and go on about how daft you would have to be to go bare back when i know damn well they do, but that aside its a persnal choice isn't it?
If i decide to shag some guy without a condom what harm is it doing you?
as adults we know the risks we are taking and if some of us decide we want to take that risk then thats their choice surely?
so long as you protect yourself the best you can what others do is upto them, condoms can split or come off at any given time so noone who swings are really safe we all take the gamble really wink
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Firstly and obviously i can't and wouldn't name names anyway, i find it quite amusing how many people come on these threads and go on about how daft you would have to be to go bare back when i know damn well they do . . . . .

worship
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I'm not sure whether I should be posting this in here, or the steam room, or indeed at all . . . . . .
but the hypocrisy in this and other threads of a similar nature really pisses me off. Usually it's just one or two posts in a thread, but often followed by several other people jumping in to say that they would/wouldn't do this or that. It annoys me more if/when I know from personal experience that what they're saying is not the case.
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Firstly and obviously i can't and wouldn't name names anyway, i find it quite amusing how many people come on these threads and go on about how daft you would have to be to go bare back when i know damn well they do . . . . .

worship
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I'm not sure whether I should be posting this in here, or the steam room, or indeed at all . . . . . .
but the hypocrisy in this and other threads of a similar nature really pisses me off. Usually it's just one or two posts in a thread, but often followed by several other people jumping in to say that they would/wouldn't do this or that. It annoys me more if/when I know from personal experience that what they're saying is not the case.
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Hands up all those who have never had unprotected sex at least once in there life with someone other than their partner.....and that goes for oral?.....honest hands please!
For once I can put my hand up!
And I don't think I'm being a hypocrite when I said:
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Personally I wouldn't ever take part, I find it a massive turn off.

I don't want to get into semantics but I think that most people would agree that oral sex isn't really classed as bareback.
Don't get me wrong - I don't do unprotected oral either.
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For once I can put my hand up!

You always use a dam Kiss?
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You always use a dam Kiss?

I wish :shock:
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For once I can put my hand up!

You always use a dam Kiss?
Steve, many of my posts on here, re this very subject, are me banging on about dental dams.
I rarely use a dental dam - that's because I very rarely go down on swinging partners.
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I wish

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I rarely use a dental dam - that's because I very rarely go down on swinging partners.

:cry: Just ruined some of my fantasies.
Fair play though.
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I wish

lol
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I rarely use a dental dam - that's because I very rarely go down on swinging partners.

:cry: Just ruined some of my fantasies.
Fair play though.
:lol:
You keep your fantasies - I do have a girlfriend!
:P
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You always use a dam Kiss?

I wish :shock:
Can I admit something? I have been pondering this comment for a few minutes because I didn't get it - but now I do! redface :doh: surprisedops:
Dammie, on your birthday thread I have asked if I will get a birthday kiss, but to no avail. :cry:
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Dammie, on your birthday thread I have asked if I will get a birthday kiss, but to no avail. :cry:

You DO NOT need to wait until next year for that.
I have a birthday in a couple of weeks wink
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If i decide to shag some guy without a condom what harm is it doing you?

If that person has an infection of some sort, they are passing it to you. If you then go and have unprotected sex with someone else, you could be passing it to them. The circle of people affected could be huge! I know this from experience!
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as adults we know the risks we are taking and if some of us decide we want to take that risk then thats their choice surely?

Slightly off topic but....
What if your choice is taken away?
In the past I've been cheated on and there was never any condom used when the ex was out shagging his bit of stuff.
In the past, in this scene, I've had my choice taken away based on lies. We had an agreement that we wouldn't use protection with each other but we would with everyone else. Maybe I was stupid to trust someone but I did trust and I had faith that this agreement was in place. I often asked the person, "Did you use protection?" whenever the occasion arose. I was always, always told "yes".
It then transpired that actually, this person had been lying to me constantly for over 6 months.
My choice was taken away.
Some people say I was stupid to trust him. But if you don't trust your friends and swinging partners, who can you trust?
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so long as you protect yourself the best you can what others do is upto them, condoms can split or come off at any given time so noone who swings are really safe we all take the gamble really wink

Fair enough, we're all at risk. Whoever has sex is potentially at risk but there is risk and there is also people increasing that risk.
I have no problem with other peoples' choices, it's up to them what they do with their lives. When it affects others, it bothers me.
I do however have a problem with people who take the choices away, who play "god" with people's lives.
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What there is a perv in here, OMG
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What and its not us this time!!! rotflmao
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I wish

lol
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I rarely use a dental dam - that's because I very rarely go down on swinging partners.

:cry: Just ruined some of my fantasies.
Fair play though.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!! :upset:
And mine.. (foxy)
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Well I think its really up to the individual whether they want to risk going bareback, those who would never even consider it should have nothing to worry about if they are using suitable protection themselves, you’ll probably find the vast majority of people on here have had unprotected sex at some point in there lives and not necessary in the swinging circle but at some point in the past, I know I have and I’m not afraid to admit it, although I wouldn’t consider it in this day and age and wouldn’t recommend going bareback to anyone, its really there choice if they want to take the risks involved, condemning them would just be double standards on my behalf, although it does seem by reading some of the replies on here it’s a big no-no which i suppose is also understandable, then there’s people saying they would never knowingly swing with someone who’s been / goes bareback?? Sorry but how would you know if they didn’t tell you? At the end of the day swinging is risky and the only person you can really trust is yourself, so with that in mind and some of the replies I’ve read on this thread some people should seriously consider this lifestyle…
I hate condoms, they dont feel right and they spoil the moment BUT if i have sex with anyone other than my LTR i ALWAYS wear a condom.
I never seaces to amaze me the number of doggers who come and play with us and dont have a condom. Needless to say they dont get anything.
I play out as a dogger too (with my GF permission, of course) and I always carry and wear condoms.
Some time ago we met a single guy and two couples in a hotel. We arrived with one couple and the other couple and the single were already playing...without condoms. My partner and I just looked at each other, we became a bit weary. When i (the male) was offered a play with the ladies i automatically put a condom on and not a word was said. My girlfriend came and joined in with the other males, one went to shag her without a condom, Dee asked him to put one on and you should have seen the look on his face, you would have thought she had just slapped him. For the rest of the night she was shunned by the males of the party, this was upsetting and quite insulting to us. We felt very uncomfortable, made our excuses and left leaving them to play with each other still without condoms.
There is also a couple that Paul has met a few times dogging, they enjoy gangbangs. On these occasions there has been single guys that fuck her without condoms and with condoms. They never batter an eye lid either way.
Most occasions when we have met couples condoms have been expected to be worn but on one or two occasions it has been suggested that they are not needed. Needless to say we insist in them anyway.
Yes we make our own choices but other people dont always agree with them but you should still be repectful of them.
Just thought I'd chip in here....an issue which might add to the discussion is that many infections aren't instantly recognisable. Chlamydia, in many cases, don't give the male host any indication that he has the infection. No red lights flash, no alarms go off.
GUM clinics are reporting that they are experiencing a lage increase in middle-aged women with quite serious STD's. Far from the 19 year olds returning from Costa Del Crab, disease is far more reaching within the swinging community.
As such we need to be as aware as possible. To those that choose bareback, kudos to you, but it only takes one of you in a group to lie, or have been lied to, and you're all in danger.
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Dawnie, I'm not sure "naming and shaming", even privately, is my style.... but if you want to search the adverts for "bareback" you will be spoilt for choice. Like it or not, this community has many who are prepared to take the risk ......or convince themselves there is no risk
Edit added .... I know other sites, particularly amongst the gay community, allow members to state their safe sex preferences (eg, always, sometimes, never, needs discussion) - it's not foolpfroof of course but it might give you a better idea of quite what risks your swinging partner is and has been taking.

I think this is an excellent idea, one the site admins here would do well to take on board.