The good old bi/bi curious debate again

8 Dec 2006

But with a difference :lol2:
Since Steve came out as being bi curious I have been thinking about how we catagorise men with regard to being bi sexual. At present there are 3 "catagories" for the want of a better word... Bi curious, orally bi and fully bi but what about women?? dunno

Over lunch today I posed this question to someone who says she is straight but quite likes kissing women and likes boobs, but isn't interested in the lower half of the female body. I wanted her approval before I started this thread but I wonder if it's possible to be labelled partially bi as a female? :dunno:
Are there any other women out there who are partially bi but dont say so because saying you are bi indicates that you like fanny fun?? :dunno:

8 Dec 2006

Quote by Shireen
you like fanny fun??

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Sorry I will post a half-sensible reply later.

8 Dec 2006

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I thought you might like that :giggle:

8 Dec 2006

Quote by Kiss
you like fanny fun??

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Sorry I will post a half-sensible reply later.
coffee monitor moment lol

8 Dec 2006

I have a new label for my friend.... Curiously straight :smug:

8 Dec 2006

I started my voyage of discovery with the female upper body obsession and only went for fanny fun (tm shireen) when I was in my mid twenties.... I never looked back after that.
Curiously straight, partially bi... who cares? It's just another label and we all know that we never fit perfectly into any category lol

8 Dec 2006

Jane classes herself as bi and enjoys bi fun, giving and recieving. A friend of ours is only happy with the recieving bit ( by the right fem). We use the term hetraflexible cos it sounds fun but just plain greedy is what she uses to describe herself pmsl.

8 Dec 2006

I think I am like your friend, I love boobs and loving snogging other ladies but not that interested in taking it any further. I dont think of myself as bi-sexual, but I also dont class myself as straight?

8 Dec 2006

Quote by Shireen
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I thought you might like that :giggle:

I quite like it :rascal:
(could she be 'Upwardly Bi'?)

8 Dec 2006

Quote by meat2pleaseu
(could she be 'Upwardly Bi'?)

Oh I like that one Meaty :thumbup:

9 Dec 2006

For my two pence I think every one is bi to a degree, wether we choose to admit it to ourselves, or act on it is another matter. and the curious, oraly bi or fully bi, bit doesnt realy come in to it, as we all have sexual preferances, be it in a hetro realtionship or a gay one, there are some things that some people just dont enjoy or wish to try, i have met a woman who didnt like penetrative sex, so did that make her oraly straight.
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9 Dec 2006

For my two pence I think every one is bi to a degree, wether we choose to admit it to ourselves, or act on it is another matter. and the curious, oraly bi or fully bi, bit doesnt realy come in to it, as we all have sexual preferances, be it in a hetro realtionship or a gay one, there are some things that some people just dont enjoy or wish to try, i have met a woman who didnt like penetrative sex, so did that make her oraly straight.
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9 Dec 2006

Quote by Krystal_DeCanter
i have met a woman who didnt like penetrative sex, so did that make her oraly straight.

Now that is an interesting point wink

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If you had said 6 months ago that everyone is bi to a degree I would have fiercely agrued the point, but since Steve came out my views have changed a little. I still believe that some people would never consider any form of sexual act with a member of the same sex, but possibly it's because they have closed their mind to it. Perhaps it is just each individuals ability to open up as to whether they consider the possibility? dunno

9 Dec 2006

Once again, what HornyBear said.

I started my voyage of discovery with the female upper body obsession and only went for fanny fun (tm shireen) when I was in my mid twenties.... I never looked back after that.

Do you mean never looked up?

9 Dec 2006

Quote by Kiss
you like fanny fun??

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Sorry I will post a half-sensible reply later.
i feel the same way lol

9 Dec 2006

Quote by Shireen

(could she be 'Upwardly Bi'?)

Oh I like that one Meaty :thumbup:
i like this one toooooo wink

9 Dec 2006

I think every one is bi to a degree, but it is if every one has the ability to open up to it.
things that happen to us over our life time either open us up to the idea or close our minds.
the odd thing with the parents ......they point someone out when your a little thing and say 'they are a bad person' etc ...it sticks in your mind! although they are not talking to you but your aunt Marry and uncle Bob
what is bi?
good question, it diffo's to each one of us.
are you bi if you only dream of women in bed with you? (no matter what your dreaming wink

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each to their own no matter if they are women or man ....best of luck to them

9 Dec 2006

Sorry, but I don't agree that everyone is Bi to some degree.
I am not, in any way,shape or form, attracted to other women.
Yes, I know people say 'but how do you know until you've tried it'.............well, I've never stuck a red hot poker in my eye but I know it would bloody hurt :shock: biggrin

9 Dec 2006

Quote by Lissa
Sorry, but I don't agree that everyone is Bi to some degree.
I am not, in any way,shape or form, attracted to other women.

Up to a point a do agree with this, but I also agree with what the others have said about everyone having a bi side. HOWEVER, I think it would be better to descibe it as everyone as the ABILITY to be Bi, if they want to open up to that option.
It is also a very personal decision if you want or dont want to take the experimenting further. As Lissa said, I automatically know that I would not want the red hot poker in my eye and some people automatically know that being bi, or playing with a member of the same sex is not for them.
From a personal perspective, I dont know if I am bi or straight, I just like to do whatever feels right with whoever I am with. I do love boobs, all shapes and sizes whether it be looking, or anything else, and I also love kissing a woman, but I think this is because I personally find that women are much better kissers (one exception, but I wont name HIM on here). So am I bi, bi-curious or straight?
To be honest, who cares as long as I am having fun lol

9 Dec 2006

I don't think everyone is bi to some kind of degree or other. I do however believe the theory that there is a line with completely straight at one end and completely homosexual at the other... every single one of us will fit on that line somewhere, whether it be at one end or the other or some way along that line.

9 Dec 2006

hmmmmm I sort of had this convo recently and ended up agreeing that the lady and myself having the convo were - situationally bi.
this means that from our perspective sometimes we get into the situation where we are with the right people in the same mindset and we wanna play
other than that - nope I'm not bi but I can appreciate another females attributes- appreciation and actual playing are very different things imo

10 Dec 2006

Quote by Kiss
you like fanny fun??

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Sorry I will post a half-sensible reply later.
Whats really funny to me is that in the States 'fanny' means your bum ... so I had a whole different reply ready for this but then the wine got the better of me!!!

10 Dec 2006

Quote by Shireen
.............Over lunch today I posed this question to someone who says she is straight but quite likes kissing women and likes boobs.................

I'll PM you a picture of who I think this is. :giggle:

Quote by Shireen
I have a new label for my friend.... Curiously straight :smug:

:giggle:

I'm adding nothing to this. PMSL!
I'm loving all these new terms (especially hetroflexible :rotflmao: ) to try and define just how far along the gay-straight continuum people are.
I've got to agree with the people that think it's possible for everyone to have some kind of sexual curiosity about someone of the same sex. Sometimes it's just wondering what someone looks like undressed to what someone looks like while hump

I guess some of it is down to social conditioning as well. It seems far easier for a woman to say she's "bi" and be accepted (although I guess this is because I'm speaking from a male point of view) than it is for a man to say the same thing and feel accepted. dunno

I know that when I've said that "most men have had some kind of homosexual attraction or curiosity at some point in their life" to one of my work colleagues, he went nuts and said he'd never felt like that and the idea made him physically sick. I think he protested a little too much myself. confused

:lol:

10 Dec 2006

I had to go on a mandatory training in hetrosexism & homaphobia the other day & got told by the two ladies that gay & lesbians hate people who are bi :shock: They commented on that bi people are just confused & give them a bad name :shock:
As I am bi myself I really wanted to stand my ground, I stood up, opened my mouth then looked round to see 50+ peoples eyes looking at me redface

I just sat down again
So peeps is this true? Do people who are bi give others a bad name?

10 Dec 2006

I don't think it really matters what one might think of, or classify oneself as....
...someone is always going to be p*ssed off by it....
C'est la vie
lp

10 Dec 2006

Quote by hisandhers
I had to go on a mandatory training in hetrosexism & homaphobia the other day & got told by the two ladies that gay & lesbians hate people who are bi :shock: They commented on that bi people are just confused & give them a bad name :shock:
As I am bi myself I really wanted to stand my ground, I stood up, opened my mouth then looked round to see 50+ peoples eyes looking at me I just sat down again
So peeps is this true? Do people who are bi give others a bad name?

To my mind this is just as bad as the bigoted anti-gay things that are bandied about and still are in certain circles.
I think that it's disgraceful that a group that were victimised for so long can turn round and say things like this to another social group.

10 Dec 2006

Quote by easy
I had to go on a mandatory training in hetrosexism & homaphobia the other day & got told by the two ladies that gay & lesbians hate people who are bi :shock: They commented on that bi people are just confused & give them a bad name :shock:
As I am bi myself I really wanted to stand my ground, I stood up, opened my mouth then looked round to see 50+ peoples eyes looking at me I just sat down again
So peeps is this true? Do people who are bi give others a bad name?

To my mind this is just as bad as the bigoted anti-gay things that are bandied about and still are in certain circles.
I think that it's disgraceful that a group that were victimised for so long can turn round and say things like this to another social group.
:thumbup: totally agree hun

10 Dec 2006

Quote by hisandhers
I had to go on a mandatory training in hetrosexism & homaphobia the other day & got told by the two ladies that gay & lesbians hate people who are bi :shock: They commented on that bi people are just confused & give them a bad name :shock:
As I am bi myself I really wanted to stand my ground, I stood up, opened my mouth then looked round to see 50+ peoples eyes looking at me I just sat down again
So peeps is this true? Do people who are bi give others a bad name?

In my own personal experience I have not found this to be the case. I have lots of gay and lesbian friends who I go out with a lot and have never met with any bad feeling from other gay/lesbian people in pubs and clubs.
Maybe some people in the gay community do dislike bi people for whatever reason dunno

That's prejudice and it's wrong-but I am not going to worry about it. If someone can judge me because of my sexuality/race/gender/hair colour etc the they are not worth my time or energy ;)
Don't forget as swingers we are also frowned upon by the vanilla society rolleyes

Oh dear getting it from both barrels :shock: :twisted: ;)

10 Dec 2006

I can't say I agree that everyone is Bi to some degree but we have been surprised at just how many are in fact curious or have indeed tried... each to there own we think, we know guys who were straight as a die and have turned out Bi doesn't make them any different.. well Ok slightly then lol.
For me personally I have no tendancies whatsoever not even slightly curious but mrs mdr is and has tried most things Bi.... its even what got us started in this lifestyle. The point is that although she is Bi she isn't Bi with every Bi woman we play with, just as with men she has to have an attraction as were sure most bi or gay women or even men do.. with some she is happy to play to a lesser degree than others as it were.. saving Fanny Fun (TM Shireen) for when fully attracted with the other party....
If its good why not.....
Mike and Ju xx