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The irony of all these adverts!

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Hi all,
As a single guy looking for fun with women I thought d share my amusement of having reviewing so many ads, - sending off so many messages, and getting sweet zilch back in reply!
The sum it all up, - this site is full of horny people lookng for fun times, but we are too specific in our reqquirements and therefore missing out on having fun with real people.
Loads of ads say - blonde hair, or cocks must be a certain size, - or a guy must be 5"11 minimum, etcetera...
So often i reply to ads from people just down the road from me, and all so often the silence is deafening. Im not an ugly bloke by the way, but I am amazed at how shallow most people seem to be on here, desperately seeking types of people who dont exist!
I would be astounded to see if anyone has actually met up with anyone on this siite for fun. Everyone just seems so precise in what they are looking for
Sorry for my rant... Im just looking for some sweet shaggin and cant believe what im finding!
Cheers
well despite being specific about what i want.. i have had LOADS of fun..... sorry!
I'm not that specific in my requirements, but when I do state requirements I stick to them, so chancers have no chance! Most people do have requirements, it's a fact of life. There's plenty of advice on the site for single guys - have a look at it. There are plenty of single guys who have had much success from this site. Expecting people to relax their requirements won't help - it still doesn't mean you'll get laid. Joining in on the forum will help a lot. Good luck.
Sorry, I prob should not have made light how I did in the post I just made.
However, I have to say it looks as though you are posting spur of the moment after being knocked back or ignored.
I think it is bad if people are rude and do not bother to let you know, however would you REALLY want people to have no standards with regards to who they met?
How would you feel having fun with someone if you knew anyone was fair game for her and that she would do anything with a pulse? I am sure it would not do your ego a lot of good. You would be much better off having fun with someone who was attracted to you.. and found you desirable enough that she chose you out of the hundreds of replies she had received.
Yeah, this means that you are going to have less meets, but remember its quality not quantity that counts.
So what you may not have been her cup of tea… but the next reply you send may set the recipient alight!
Personally I am very fussy about who I play with and many things about a person can make them "not right" for me (its even been rumoured I turned one person down for being too nice!) , but that means that them men I play with know I find them very desirable.. and so a good time is had by all.
Don’t give up, and don’t become too bitter about it.. and in time.. a lot of fun will come your way. biggrin
WBB
xxxx
There's an ad from a couple who sound like wonderful people, very local to me. They sound like just the kind of people I'd love to meet. Unfortunately they only want men 5'11 and under and I'm 6'2, so... :-(
If you're looking to meet a single guy, I think the sad truth is that you have lots of choice because there's so many of the buggers. They're like ants. A woman could probably advertise for a blonde-haired man between 5'6 and 5'9, with a toned body and a washboard stomach, a penis the size of a rotweiler puppy and a nose even larger, an eyepatch, a parrot and a wooden leg that can double as a makeshift dildo, and still end up with several qualifying applicants to choose between.
To be honest, I like to see ads that say a bit about the advertiser and what they're looking for; otherwise answering them is like shooting fish in the desert, blindfold. You might by some piece of dumb luck hit upon what turns them on, but you'd be better advised investing your time playing the lottery...
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How would you feel having fun with someone if you knew anyone was fair game for her and that she would do anything with a pulse?

Uh, wBB, I think you just described most men. rotflmao
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Joining in on the forum will help a lot.

Joining the forum will help you get laid...up with RSI. ;)
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Miracles are quite common on SH :angel: .
Judy TV.

Wondering if its the "Angel" part of my name, but sometimes you DO get what you're hoping for, without even advertising the fact!
I posted in this thread ages ago http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/10347.html and then found someone fitting that description at the nw munch... so Judy's right - and I for one am VERY happy about it!
I for one have had no luck so far, but I have been joining in with the forums as people have suggested. It is a lot more fun than trawling through all the wanted ads and you get to know who the regulars are. There seems to be a lot of people who have joined this site thinking that they will be able to log on and find an instant partner, which obviously is not the case.
I think you will find it harder if you are a single male and especially if you are young like me, im only 21.
Also I think it is more difficult if you do not have a partner to join in with the couples. I have a partner but she has no interest in swinging though she is very understanding and knows that I am looking.
So keep your pecker up and stick with it if you are genuinely interested.
Daz and I have met up with 2 couples, both from here. And it was great fun, ta!!
Surely people are entitled to be as specific (or otherwise) as they like. If one particular thing turns your key then it is pointless accommodating something else.
Many people seek the fulfilment of their fantasies on the site. Fantasies tend to be very specific and the prospect of being able to realise them is what can be the turn-on.
Just my (rather detached) take on it.
I think our ad is very specific, but it hasn't stopped us meeting people.
Admittedly, none of our meets have led to any 'fun' yet, but that's because, the one person we did 'click' with lied about his marital status (didn't read our ad properly rolleyes ) I was devastated. :cry: :cry:
But we've got 2 more social meets this week, and hopefully we'll have some luck with one of them, if not I'll just bump our ad to the top and try again lol lol
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How would you feel having fun with someone if you knew anyone was fair game for her and that she would do anything with a pulse?

Uh, wBB, I think you just described most men. rotflmao

Most men that dont know what they want, or would rather "wank" with someone being at the other end of thier dick....
I know it was ment as a flippent/thow away comment, but some off us would rather go years between meets, or plays, or sex in general... than do it just cos its been a while since we got laid.
I have never slept with anyone, single, couple or goup... where there hasnt been a click and a physical atraction from my side towards who every I was with.... I'm guessing they felt the same otherwise they wouldnt have agreed to the meet or the potential relationship or just pure physical attraction.... or at least I would hope that was the case!!!!!
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after a short and heavy spell of replying to adverts and having little or no success in shagging dozens of females and not having wild and erotic sex parties with either single females or couples within weeks, or a few short months of registering on this forum, or logging into the chat room. If we look back at these posts we will find that they have made less than 20 or 30 posts, been here for less than 6 months and, and welcomed few others, if any, and if you read their past posts you will find them anything but interesting or exciting.

mad I feel the sudden urge to point out that every single male who is getting less out of this kind of site than they hoped is not some kind of damaged, mentally deficient, mouth-breathing, drunken, single-minded, monosyllabic erection-holding pillock. Probably.
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Err, damaged, mentally deficient, mouth-breathing, drunken, single-minded, monosyllabic erection-holding pillock ? I dont recall using any of tthose descriptions for anyone. No, just checked I used NONE of them.

So what words would you use to describe the type of person you were talking about? A man who expects to be "shagging dozens of females" on the back of his three-line profile about "the usual unexciting things like football, booze and sex"? The pattern "undoubtedly" followed by everyone who moans about a disappointing record?
I think the words I chose were pretty appropriate.
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I really dont see why you have associated the above with my posting .

Maybe you should read it through my eyes?
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In fact I am wondering if you have totally missed the point of my post alltogether

The point of your post - indeed, the point of many pieces of "advice" posted by people who are having self-proclaimed success on this site - is that anyone who isn't is either not trying hard enough or is acting like a fool in expecting women to fawn over them because they have a penis, and needs to stop being obsessed with sex and start looking for friendship and let everything else take care of itself. "Aim for friendship" I'm advised, from left and right and center. Advice I'd find it easier to believe if I hadn't been aiming for friendship since day #1.
I'm sure the people who give this advice truly believe that it's as simple as that. Just stop being obsessed with sex and try to make friends and all the bounties of heaven will rain down upon you, my son. I'm sure making friends comes easily to these people. Well bully for you. But the rest of us aren't beautiful people; we're ugly, and inarticulate, and nasty and brutish and short. We're charmless and cold. We don't have it, and try as we might we can't make ourselves into what we're not. We cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
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But the rest of us aren't beautiful people; we're ugly, and inarticulate, and nasty and brutish and short. We're charmless and cold. We don't have it, and try as we might we can't make ourselves into what we're not. We cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Now THAT could account for a lack of success!!! lol lol lol lol lol (But don't take it out on Judy!!) rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seconds out, round one....
Sorry, don't mind me, I'll just settle myself into a front row seat and enjoy................ wink
Roger,
I think it is quite sad that you think this way. Like Judy said…… no one was doing the “single male” bashing……people were just pointing out that SOME people (not necessarily gender specific) had very high expectations and were therefore liable to be disappointed.
The other point Judy made was that if effort is not made then neither will progress be made.
I can not understand the reason you took exception to this as its quite obvious that you do NOT fall into this category, in fact you have had had a BIG impact people on this site in a positive way.
You say that you have aimed for friendship from day one, yet you seem to resent the headway you have made so far.
Personally I think you have been very successful on this score as I know that if I was in the area you would have been one of the people on my “would love to meet up with” list, I also know at least one other (and probably more) person who felt the same way.
Is this not a measure of success?
Speaking for myself… in an ideal world I would of course be enjoying carnal delights 24 hours a day, seven days a week.. however for practical reasons this is not feasible, so I suppose that technically I have a “disappointing record” as i am having less than i would like. This does not mean that my reality is disappointing though! I am sure there is not one person who would say that they would not like more fun than they actually have..
The difference is that the majority of people don’t come one here complaining that everyone is too fussy, Or peoples expectations are too high, we just make the most of the fun we do have and enjoy the friendships that have been made on here.
I for one have never been able to play with someone I do not like as a person, there have been many men I have met whose looks have made me go week at the knees, but their personality has superglued my underwear to my body!
On the other hand I have met people who may not have physically blew me away to start with… but they have literally charmed me between the sheets, so I assure you that the advice about making friends DOES work and IS genuinely given to be helpful.
If people are incapable of taking this advice on board and do not think it is possible to converse with people and form friendships, then how would they fare if they did actually get a meet anyway?
Its probably EASIER if anything to chat along here than it would be on a one2one basis.
Certain people perhaps do have a problem with “people skills” through no fault of their own, those people may be better off cutting their losses and taking up a less social based hobby than swinging.
However I feel that that would be VERY few people, and a lot of the problems that have been mentioned in this thread would be solved by a bit of effort and some friendliness (and no roger… I don’t mean you!!)
This was not meant to inflame any argument already happening, this is just my own honest opinion… but feel free to slate me if you wish.
Luv n stuff
WBB
xxxx
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The point of your post - indeed, the point of many pieces of "advice" posted by people who are having self-proclaimed success on this site - is that anyone who isn't is either not trying hard enough or is acting like a fool in expecting women to fawn over them because they have a penis, and needs to stop being obsessed with sex and start looking for friendship and let everything else take care of itself. "Aim for friendship" I'm advised, from left and right and center. Advice I'd find it easier to believe if I hadn't been aiming for friendship since day #1.
I'm sure the people who give this advice truly believe that it's as simple as that. Just stop being obsessed with sex and try to make friends and all the bounties of heaven will rain down upon you, my son. I'm sure making friends comes easily to these people. Well bully for you. But the rest of us aren't beautiful people; we're ugly, and inarticulate, and nasty and brutish and short. We're charmless and cold. We don't have it, and try as we might we can't make ourselves into what we're not. We cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Look - lots of people have had success on this Site and have taken the time and effort to offer you some advice to help you or people like you. We don't say it's the only way, but what we do say is that it works - for us. Quite frankly I don't see why we bother when we get slagged off for trying to help.
But the rest of us aren't beautiful people; we're ugly, and inarticulate, and nasty and brutish and short. We're charmless and cold. We don't have it, and try as we might we can't make ourselves into what we're not. We cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Well, if you're passed help, why waste our time by asking for it.
Mal
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Well, if you're passed help, why waste our time by asking for it.

It's just as well you didn't waste your time giving it, eh?
:shock: OMG!!! What's going on?? I go to work for a few hours, and come back to this!!
:boxing:
dunno
Roger, can I ask what has brought this on? Reading through WBB's post, I feel fairly confident that I am the "at least one other person" she was referring to. I feel that we've struck up a friendship of sorts in the last couple of months, and while this hasn't led to us meeting thus far, its still a friendship as far as I can tell.
If you feel that its time for you to leave the site, then there really isn't anything anyone can do about that. There's been so much anger in your recent posts, but the humour that used to be so obvious was something I looked forward to reading.
If I have unintentionally pissed you off (the veiled reference in your other thread hasn't gone unnoticed) then I wholeheartedly apologise for that, and will be sending a PM as soon as I finish this post.
I know you haven't had as much success as you hoped for when it came to meeting people, but I think it's all down to the luck of the draw on here. I haven't advertised on here for months, and the one ad I did place just generated lots and lots of replies from people who either didn't match the criteria I asked for, or were one liners that held no interest for me whatsoever, and yet I've been lucky enough to meet someone with whom (it seems) I have a mutual attraction, and not just for swinging. As I said, "luck of the draw"
One last thing I have to take issue with is the comment you made to Mal. I felt sure he'd spent a fair amount of time and given you lots of advice re your ad... or am I mistaken there? dunno
Anyway, I do think it's sad that you have become so angry just recently, and that the friendships you have made obviously mean so little to you, so good luck in whatever you decide to do. And keep your house tidy :twisted:
You get from life what you put in .(but the phasing may be a little off sometimes)
Pity is a negative emotion and self pity the most negative of all.
Roger go and read Rudyard Kiplings poem " IF" it puts it all in perspective.
The frustration of being a single male in the swinging arena, or indeed the status afforded him , is not -lets face it- a million miles away from his status in the mainstream of dating life.
I suppose alot of men , having discovered the world of swinging through the medium of the net have a sneaking suspicion that the ladies involved are less particular about who they will spend time with . Often they are gravely dissapointed because whilst the requirements of swinging women may be different and more often than not more frank and open . It doesnt mean that you get any more right to be offended than you do if youre knocked back for a dinner date with the local barmaid.
If you look around this site and others similar , youll notice that couples that are in the swinging scene for the long term are very different animals . Most of the members will for reasons known only to them be involved in the scene for a relatively short time , and then leave .
Either way what they are looking for is important before they start . If theyre inexperienced and in the midst of fantasy fuelled sexual adventures , then of course having the right experience is crucial to wether they ever see swinging as a life style at all . If they are a little more experienced and have come through a few good ,a few bad , and a few downright disasterous meetings then they may well be a little more cautious and a little more specific about what it is they want from a meeting .
Strangely those very small band of swingers who seem to be able to maintain it as a long term life choice ( and believe me they are rare) will quite often on the surface seem to be far less choosy about whom they meet . In my opinion that isnt because they are less fussy about who they want to have sex with , but because of the sort of personality they were before they ever embarked on a swinging lifestyle. Their open mindedness and casual attitude probably allows them to give people more chance to show themselves before they are dismissed , but make no mistake when it comes to the crunch these are the folks who will only get sexual if it feels right .thats what makes them successful .
Truth is all of human life is here , and as we know not all of human life is particularly skilled at a charming and polite rebuttal , just like not all propective swinging partners are that good at a charming and subtle approach in the first place. We have to accept that is we arent always successful in our approach to people it isnt always a judgement on us , its sometimes a judgement on them , and sometimes its no slight on anyone .
If you have seven different receptionists at work and you asked each one out on a date in turn , and each turned you down .would you write to the employment agency and suggest they were sending people who were anti social ? Would you suggest that in general all receptionists were stuck up and had a difficulty with relationships ?
Of course you wouldnt ( would you ? ) and it doesnt matter how you dress it up , anyone who can get frustrated at not getting their way on a swinging site MUST have some kind of pre-meditated expectation of what they were entitled to .
The real key to not getting frustrated with swinging is to remember that it only works if its a small part of your life , and its gets progressively less fun if it starts to become a big part of your life. Its recreation thats all , and if you play tennis for recreation and dont get picked for the wildcard at Wimbledon you dont throw your rattle from your pram , equally if tennis stops being fun , or if your backhand just makes you so mad you cant bear to lift a raquet its probably best if you take up some other past time for fun .
Well said you guys! lol Common sense raising its' head yet again, but still not often enough!
Mal
lol
How times change, to put things in perspective let me tell you my experience. I've been swinging for 22yrs off & on, I started back in the days when you had to go to a seedy back street news agent wait till nobody was in the shop & very subtly ask for the contact mag from under the counter. After being ripped off £20 you then had to write letters, include a fee plus postage, plus an sae. I used to use the scatter gun approach of answering anything that I was remotly close to meeting the criteria of & was within 100miles of me. This meant usually 15 or so replies a month, usually at a cost of £40 or £50 a time, of these I'd get maybe 5 replies back, a couple from pros a couple from timewasters (can't count the number of pub car parks i've sat in for hours & no-one turns up) & if I was lucky one genuine reply, which some times would lead to a meeting but quite often not. In fact the sucsess rate was probably about 1 in 5, so if you consider out of 75 letters sent 5 were genuine & 1 I actually met over a period of 5 months, patience is the virtue you needed if you hoped to get lucky.
So what I'm trying to say is two fold really, first todays technology makes it much easier & cheaper (in fact not much effort required) to enter into this lifestyle than ever before, but of course when things become easy & cheap it also let's in all the wierdos, idiots, timewasters & morons that wouldn't have had the bottle to do it before. Secondly it seems that every one has this expectation of everything having to be instant (I want it yesterday if not sooner). What happened to patience & good things are worth wating for? I know it can be frustrating but belive me as a single male who's had a fair bit of succsess over the years it is worth the wait. Also just to mention I haven't been on this site for long or entered into many disscusions but have had a couple of very succsess ful meetings with some great people, so it does work, it's all in the approach.
Don't know if this is any help to anyone but just thought i'd let the newbies know that if you persevere & do it right, relax & have fun, good things will happen eventually.
Good luck
Please excuse me for butting in... (actually, i dont care whether you do or not)
But Roger.... GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can't post a thread on here and then throw a hissy fit when you hear an answer you dont like!! Get over yourself, this site isnt just about sex, its about friendship as well. Dont you choose the qualities you look for in a friend?? Why is swinging any different?? if people want a 10 inch cock then its their choice, if people want a 2 inch cock then its up to them too. You have no right to knock these people for asking for qualities THEY like. I'm sure if their perfect person rolled up with a cock half an inch shorter that they had stated in their ad, they would give the person a try!
You cant just go mouthing off about these things, cos you'll only upset everyone.
And dont start being rude to the mods, they're doing their job. If they think people are asking for help, they give it, dont throw it in their face when you've started a thread thats BOUND to start a discussion.
Get over yourself, grow up, and come back when you have a more mature view on other peoples ideas.
Did have a really good point to make there but after reading the last couple of posts it has totally slipped my mind now.. lol lol lol
I've just become single again myself so looks like i might have a hard time finding someone again now but at least i have a bit of patience to sit back and take my time biggrin