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Have you thought about your own death? It is citied as a very English , that we never talk about death and arrangements. But I wonder if that's still true.
Have you planned your funeral? Have you made a will? Have you told your family what you want?
My Mum (81) has all her arrangements in a folder at home and we all know where it is and the gist of what she wants.
I have discussed a few things with my son, music for the funeral especially - although my own end seems far enough away not to make firm arrangements. I have written out the gist of a will, but it hasn't been done all legal, like, it's on my memory stick.
Both my parents planned and paid for their funerals. They kept the full details secret from us, so on my mothers funeral it raised a few eyebrows and even more smiles as Status Quo's 'Down, down' was played as her coffing lowered out of sight at the crematorium. Shudder to think what Dad has planned.
I think we should talk about our last wishes, I have joked with the children and come up with some songs etc I would like played, they have said mum sounds like you want a party.
Thats is how I would like to go, celebrate and remember the good times shared and not morn on my parting, have a laugh about the silly things I have done, dont regret the things we haven't said.
My dad passed away recently and the only form of transport he had ever owed was a motorbike and sidecar in the 50's so his last journey was in one of these:

I think is was so him he would have loved it, it gives you great comfort to think the day is about them and not your own grieving.
We done a picture board to with photo's of his life, happy times with many friends and family members to put up at the reception after many of which attended the furneral, we had a laugh with everyone there all remebering the happy times shared.
My dad would have had one regret that he wasn't there sharing it all with us but I believe he was.
So when I go I would like to go the same way celebrate the life I have had, remember the wisdom I hopefully have passed onto my children and have a laugh. So when I get around writting my last wishes this is all it would say.
its something I did start to think about recently, as a close freind died. I have started to write letters to family members and such....and put pics on a memory stick....I have written a note I want read out at the service.....and don't want a place of rest as such in any graveyard.....want half my ashes spread at the wolves ground....and half my ashes spread on a beach in Ko Samui, where I have been alot. I haven't done much of a will as I really only have one next of kin which is my daughter....but I have asked for a small sum of money to be put aside and I want my freinds to go out on the lash, after the service. Still working on the music...but I do think in reality it is something we should all consider !!!
As i've got older and have been to more funerals it has made me think more about what i don't want.
I don't want floral tributes saying MUM, people dressed in black, afraid to smile in case it seems disrespectful or sad hymns.
I am not particularly religious, and when i am dead i have no need for my body, so i have signed up for total organ donation and what remains can be used for medical science. Therefore there will be no body to cremate or bury.
I think that my family and friends will want to have some type of ceremony of remembrance but this must be an occasion to share good memories, stories, pictures and music.
I also would like to have a tree planted in my memory.
As far as my will is concerned, what money etc is left will go to my son.
I don't have a problem with talking about my death, its going to happen eventually. Living is often more complicated lol
Hmmmm I don't know whether it will be land fill or carbon footprint yet.
i have, im worried about our kids and Pretty, the struggles theyd face growing up without thier daddy and mabye the hard time Pretty would encounter if she was getting lonely and wanted to meet someone else. I remember writing a letter to her in my old RAF days about if i died and what i wanted, but i guess you can never know how your death would affect those around you.
Recently though we have spoken about doing like a will and things, life insurance and god parents. Its all a bit morbid, but its very important!
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I am not particularly religious, and when i am dead i have no need for my body, so i have signed up for total organ donation and what remains can be used for medical science. Therefore there will be no body to cremate or bury.

That's a good call, I've done the same. Somehow the idea of my skeleton being taken on a pub crawl by medical students appeals to me wink
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its something I did start to think about recently, as a close freind died. I have started to write letters to family members and such....and put pics on a memory stick....I have written a note I want read out at the service.....and don't want a place of rest as such in any graveyard.....want half my ashes spread at the wolves ground....and half my ashes spread on a beach in Ko Samui, where I have been alot. I haven't done much of a will as I really only have one next of kin which is my daughter....but I have asked for a small sum of money to be put aside and I want my freinds to go out on the lash, after the service. Still working on the music...but I do think in reality it is something we should all consider !!!

You aren't going to have Tiffany are you Dean. My kids know what music I want - if they let them play it at the crem that is and what I want doing with my ashes afterwards My best friends 17 year old son was killed in a car crash and it made me realise you have to talk abut these things My parents have paid for theirs already and bought a plot but I think that is my stepdad looking after us as he always does to ensure that we dont have to worry about it when the time comes
Plans are already afoot to make my next passing away a lot more relaxed and informal than my previous ones! Very somber affairs indeed.
I'm hoping to conduct my own funeral. I'm going to pre-record it on a cd. I want it to be a funeral full of laughter and colour. No black unless people really want to wear it. Being a musician, I am selecting a weird and wonderful mix of music. But I also want it to be an occasion of outrageous and irreverent humour. All sprinkled with a dose of favourite writings. All introduced by my dulcet tones.
My mum has mesothelioma, and was given 18 months 2 and a half years ago, when she was first diagnosed she wrote out her wishes and has them sealed up. We have talked a lot about what she does and doesnt want.. It was hard at first for me to talk to her about all this, but is now a lot easier.. It is her final wishes, and is my job to see it happens, and to be honest knowing what she wants makes the inevitable easier for me to cope with. She is also making memory boxes for us all.. We have had to promise not to peek... I seem to spend a lot of time getting things from cupboards - but not peeking!!! One day I will fall down the stairs biggrin
I have written out a list of wishes I want... Mainly about the music I want played...
Whitesnake - Here I go again... and Fuck Authority by Pennywise ( but somehow think that the powers that be wouldnt like that ) I want everyone to be wearing colourful clothes and no flowers... All I want is a sprig of rosemary on my coffin... as it is for rememberance... any soppy music and hymns and I shall haunt all the family forever!! :D
To those of you who only have a gist of an idea or who haven't sorted it at all I would say sort it. I came off the bike new years day whilst visiting friends some way from home.
I walked away but it could have been different. My friends said how would we know who we needed to contact etc. So I sat down and sorted a contact list and will organise the rest as soon as. Because the last thing I want is my friends and family to have all the hassle of sorting it. Lets face it you never know when it will happen.
Also a friend once told me no matter how late it makes you, never leave the house after an argument without sorting it out because,l if you have an accident you will leave your loved ones with bad memories. Leave telling them you love them.
All sorted here. lol
Will's are done and lodged with the probate service. Last wishes recorded etc. etc..
We're ready to meet our maker.
Also a friend once told me no matter how late it makes you, never leave the house after an argument without sorting it out because,l if you have an accident you will leave your loved ones with bad memories. Leave telling them you love them.
well said, smile lots spread your love its yours to spread.. Life really is to short to hold grudges. Kinks x x x
In reading these posts I've realised it must be a hell of a lot easier to discuss arrangements and such like before someone is seriosuly ill, or someone else has died recently.
My family have always been open and pretty pragmatic about such things, but where we were grieving, before or after a loss, it would be a lot harder even for us, let alone more sensitive people.
in recent years 2 people close to me have died suddenly and unexpectedly and neither had any funeral planned in advance but i personally found it helped in those dreadful first days to have the funeral to plan, it gave us all something to do and gave a reason to get up each day
i hope the funerals we arranged for them would have been what they would have liked but to be honest the funerals are more for the people left behind to say goodbye and celebrate their loved ones lives
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In reading these posts I've realised it must be a hell of a lot easier to discuss arrangements and such like before someone is seriosuly ill, or someone else has died recently.
My family have always been open and pretty pragmatic about such things, but where we were grieving, before or after a loss, it would be a lot harder even for us, let alone more sensitive people.

Fantastic if family relations are good, shite idea if they are not. Just starts the arguing before you die lol Wills are not always left equal.
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In reading these posts I've realised it must be a hell of a lot easier to discuss arrangements and such like before someone is seriosuly ill, or someone else has died recently.
My family have always been open and pretty pragmatic about such things, but where we were grieving, before or after a loss, it would be a lot harder even for us, let alone more sensitive people.

Fantastic if family relations are good, shite idea if they are not. Just starts the arguing before you die lol Wills are not always left equal.
True - they don't have to be. And nothing wrong with that at all. Come to that there is no 'right' to receive anything from even one's closest relatives. I know some people who think they deserve or are entitled to inherit everything from their parents. But the fact is, the only thing anyone can guarentee getting from their parents is their DNA.
Mind you, we don't have to tell them what (if anything) they are inheriting - we can just leave instructions about the funeral and let them find out about getting a half share in the garden shed later. I think it's traditional to have the will read after the funeral anyway. biggrin
Quote by foxylady2209
In reading these posts I've realised it must be a hell of a lot easier to discuss arrangements and such like before someone is seriosuly ill, or someone else has died recently.
My family have always been open and pretty pragmatic about such things, but where we were grieving, before or after a loss, it would be a lot harder even for us, let alone more sensitive people.

Fantastic if family relations are good, shite idea if they are not. Just starts the arguing before you die lol Wills are not always left equal.
True - they don't have to be. And nothing wrong with that at all. Come to that there is no 'right' to receive anything from even one's closest relatives. I know some people who think they deserve or are entitled to inherit everything from their parents. But the fact is, the only thing anyone can guarentee getting from their parents is their DNA.
Mind you, we don't have to tell them what (if anything) they are inheriting - we can just leave instructions about the funeral and let them find out about getting a half share in the garden shed later. I think it's traditional to have the will read after the funeral anyway. biggrin
It is, sadly my Brothers found my Mums prior to her death. She tried to change it but it was too late. Now I am the black sheep of the family even though I haven't actually got any of it yet. Thats because its a joint will my father is still alive though mentally incapacitated so it now all belongs to him. They have power of attorney for him or they probably do by now with which they will be able make everything equal again. Its quite simple property is left to me and money is divisible between us all. They as powers of attorney will sell the property so it becomes cash and therefore divisible by the three of us.
People said to me when people die and money is involved everyone falls out. I didnt believe them, I didnt think my family was that stupid. Seems they are dunno I did fuck all and got the blame or everyones anger for nothing. They can all kiss my ass :twisted:
A quick "Heads up" for posters and readers of this thread.
"You can't take it with you" BBC2 tonight at 9pm, Sir Gerry Robinson looks at wills. I was amazed to learn that 70% of us have made no will.
I have talked about what i would like on many occasions even our kids know what i want although not sure they think I'm serious so should maybe put it on paper to make certain
Among other stuff i want a fancy dress funeral and when I'm lowered into the ground the birdie song played and everyone must join in well unless i can think of anything funnier between now and then, loved the quo track mentioned earlier
As for wills there's no point i have nothing to leave and i hate what they do to people falling out over them its crazy I've told my mum to make sure she spends every penny she has as she doesn't want my sister getting any after a big fall out so i told her to spend it all cause if she asks for her share I'll give her it as i have no desire to be caught up in a wrangle over money I'll only waste on shoes i don't need anyway
We went through the process of writing our wills a year ago. We were surprised at the actual complexity of writing it and ensuring it was legal / met our wishes.
Whist I knew that we had more 'assets' and would need to pay death duties, taking professional advice to minimise these was money well spent (I want it to go to family and friends - not the taxman!!).
Succession was also an issue we'd not thought through properly (eg I die you inherit, if you die, I inherit) fell apart on the what if you both die at the same time (eg car/plane crash etc), or what happens in the event that you leave your estate to the kids and one or more dies before you....
It's not just the practical division of your estate either. If you have an item that you wish to give to a relative/friend (example is a family ring that passes to the eldest daughter/son) this would not happen if your estate goes to the government who will liquidate everything to cash.....
Or if you have a wish that an amount goes to a charity - without a will in-place it be at the inheritors 'goodwill' that this will actually happen after your death...
Lastly, for those that buy 'quickie' wills at the post office etc - these are not legal unless you have registered it with the Probate Service but are purely treated as an 'expression of wish'.
Even those with a 'simple' life - single parent / single child inherit can have/leave problems if the total value of the estate exceeds the death duty limits - the inheritor may have to liquidate the estate to pay the tax bill....
Just some thoughts......
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We went through the process of writing our wills a year ago. We were surprised at the actual complexity of writing it and ensuring it was legal / met our wishes.
Whist I knew that we had more 'assets' and would need to pay death duties, taking professional advice to minimise these was money well spent (I want it to go to family and friends - not the taxman!!).
Succession was also an issue we'd not thought through properly (eg I die you inherit, if you die, I inherit) fell apart on the what if you both die at the same time (eg car/plane crash etc), or what happens in the event that you leave your estate to the kids and one or more dies before you....
It's not just the practical division of your estate either. If you have an item that you wish to give to a relative/friend (example is a family ring that passes to the eldest daughter/son) this would not happen if your estate goes to the government who will liquidate everything to cash.....
Or if you have a wish that an amount goes to a charity - without a will in-place it be at the inheritors 'goodwill' that this will actually happen after your death...
Lastly, for those that buy 'quickie' wills at the post office etc - these are not legal unless you have registered it with the Probate Service but are purely treated as an 'expression of wish'.
Even those with a 'simple' life - single parent / single child inherit can have/leave problems if the total value of the estate exceeds the death duty limits - the inheritor may have to liquidate the estate to pay the tax bill....
Just some thoughts......

It is assumed the elder died first. So in most situations of say a married couple where the man is elder the man died first his will is executed leaving it all to the wife then her will is executed. Thats how it was explained to me anyway.
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We went through the process of writing our wills a year ago. We were surprised at the actual complexity of writing it and ensuring it was legal / met our wishes.
Whist I knew that we had more 'assets' and would need to pay death duties, taking professional advice to minimise these was money well spent (I want it to go to family and friends - not the taxman!!).
Succession was also an issue we'd not thought through properly (eg I die you inherit, if you die, I inherit) fell apart on the what if you both die at the same time (eg car/plane crash etc), or what happens in the event that you leave your estate to the kids and one or more dies before you....
It's not just the practical division of your estate either. If you have an item that you wish to give to a relative/friend (example is a family ring that passes to the eldest daughter/son) this would not happen if your estate goes to the government who will liquidate everything to cash.....
Or if you have a wish that an amount goes to a charity - without a will in-place it be at the inheritors 'goodwill' that this will actually happen after your death...
Lastly, for those that buy 'quickie' wills at the post office etc - these are not legal unless you have registered it with the Probate Service but are purely treated as an 'expression of wish'.
Even those with a 'simple' life - single parent / single child inherit can have/leave problems if the total value of the estate exceeds the death duty limits - the inheritor may have to liquidate the estate to pay the tax bill....
Just some thoughts......

It is assumed the elder died first. So in most situations of say a married couple where the man is elder the man died first his will is executed leaving it all to the wife then her will is executed. Thats how it was explained to me anyway.
It will depend on how the assets are registered and the will is structured. We have property in joint and single names. As we are in our 2nd/3rd marriages any property in my name would pass to Mrs Gu. When she dies the estate would go to her offspring and would preclude any inheritance by my children from 1st & 2nd marriages unless they are specifically included in the terms of my will that they will inherit xyz on her death from the combined estate.
Isnt that a bit dodgy anyway? Though it would be best to leave anyone anything you wanted them to have exactly at the time you die. Any spouse can alter their own will again after you die cutting out anyone you wanted in dunno
My parents had mirror wills that left property to me and money divisible between me and my brothers. Shortly prior to her death my mother tried to change hers so that her half of the house and her half of the money was divided equally between all of us on her death. Sadly she never got the final copy signed sad meaning it was all left to my father who is incapacitated. When he dies his will executes as above property to me money divisible by all of us. This is what caused all the issues. They want to sell his property to get it into cash, you can see why and why they want to be executors.
I made my original will when I lived in Scotland... and just assumed it would last til needed...
Was only by accident that I found out that now I live in England I needed a new one!!!!