I must have my sensible head on today as actually a little bit surprised to see a set of photo's posted on another site from a recent arranged group meet.
I've got to start by saying what an incredibly sexy looking bunch of people they look in the photo's - very seductively dressed and made up for the occasion complimented by some fantastic quality and artistic photography - hats off to organisers.
The one thing that did occur to me whilst viewing (perving) the pics that in all the pics of penetration and those that show action in the background was that there was not one condom in sight. Now this could be the decision of the photographer that these are not as appealing to the viewing (perving) audience and they were actually used in the most part but got me wondering. Worst case scenario could be that no condoms were used and one or two of the attendees at this sexy gathering could unknowingly be carrying some sort of disease or infection. In the pics, it clearly shows that there was a lot of swapping as some individuals appear with more than one partner and a lot of cum play and swallowing.
If, for example there was a group of 50 or so swingers and all enjoyed a fair few swaps with no protection - how many would end up having some bad news a few weeks/months/years later?
At this point I should point out that I'm in no way judging how people play and each to their own. I know we've been carried away on some meets where caution has been thrown to the wind. That being said, we normally play with people we've built up a friendship with and know and trust. We've never played in an orgy scenario where I'd imagine the likliness of playing with complete stranger is higher.
Not entirely sure of the point of this post other than to put my thoughts into words but its certainly got me thinking about how careful/careless we occasionally are.
Heres hoping that I'm under some sort of dark cloud today and these negative thoughts amount to nothing and all those that attended are fit , healthy and ready to swing another day.
Matt x
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some fantastic quality and artistic photography
Can we have the link
Seriously though, this is an issue that has had me wonder a fair bit. As a newcomer I thought intercourse without a condom was an extreme swinging practice, but the more I talk to people the more I realise it is not uncommon at all, quite the contrary. The familiarity and trust card is thrown in regularly,and I can understand that. But surely if condoms are a safety procedure, the procedure should be upheld at all times, unless a couple/group is fluid bonded
I get propositioned for this regularly in the chatrooms, a fact that I find alarming, disturbing and amusing at the same time, esp. as I rely on condoms for contraception as well as safer sex. The people that are most keen on barebacking make it sound like in the swinging world it is a natural progression - and all the profiles that state "no condom - no sex" somehow help validate that view, in my eyes. What's the deal?
No rubber No fun, thats what I say, and I have been asked to play BB. I say no. Yes I have in the past, once with a lady I knew well, and put it simple, we got very carried away.
I lady told me she could have a diff man on SH every night, and on one night I know 6 men. Anyone who plays that often would be mad to play BB, and anyone who plays with such a person.
Now I play BB with just my wife. I am not saying that at sometime I will now play BB with another woman, but it will be someone very specail who I trust.
Travis
I lady told me she could have a diff man on SH every night, and on one night I know 6 men. Anyone who plays that often would be mad to play BB, and anyone who plays with such a person.
Now I play BB with just my wife. I am not saying that at sometime I will now play BB with another woman, but it will be someone very specail who I trust.
Travis
Sex God
It is a fact that many men....I would say most, but if I do someone will claim to know better,....when indulging in sex with someone other than their partner often ask to go bareback, even and especially with prostitutes, including male hookers. I believe that many people don't consider oral sex to be a serious risk as far as std's are concerned.
The other response to the post is that if filming is taking place on a commercial basis then they tend to not want condoms used, they trust recent testings and so on as far as std's are concerned, they are less likely to work with strangers.
The other response to the post is that if filming is taking place on a commercial basis then they tend to not want condoms used, they trust recent testings and so on as far as std's are concerned, they are less likely to work with strangers.
Sex God
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Seriously though, this is an issue that has had me wonder a fair bit. As a newcomer I thought intercourse without a condom was an extreme swinging practice, but the more I talk to people the more I realise it is not uncommon at all, quite the contrary. The familiarity and trust card is thrown in regularly,and I can understand that. But surely if condoms are a safety procedure, the procedure should be upheld at all times, unless a couple/group is fluid bonded
I'm not sure how extreme this is, or how common it is but from our experience, it is fairly rare that you see people playing bareback or advertising for it, and at least then, we know who to say aware from. However, it is worrying just how popular the bareback room in chat is, and often has a high number of users in there.
Penetration without a condom is not something we would ever consider with anyone, apart from each other, and although I dont particularly like the taste or feel of them, we would never play without one. Using condoms and getting checked out regularly, in my opinion, should be something that all sensible swingers do. It helps to keep us 'safer' and also the people that we meet. Although condoms are not 100% guaranteed to keep you free of desease, its like crossing the road, looking both ways does not guarantee you wont get run over, but it certainly reduces the odds of it happening.
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I get propositioned for this regularly in the chatrooms, a fact that I find alarming, disturbing and amusing at the same time, esp. as I rely on condoms for contraception as well as safer sex. The people that are most keen on barebacking make it sound like in the swinging world it is a natural progression - and all the profiles that state "no condom - no sex" somehow help validate that view, in my eyes. What's the deal?
I would not say it is a natural progression that swingers will move on to play bareback, and not really sure what you mean about 'no condom - no sex' validating your view? We have it on our profile that we would not play without them, but that does not mean we would ever move on to not using them. If anything, as we have become more experienced, and found out just how deceitful some people can be, it has made us more determined never to take the risk and meet anyone who we know plays without.
Going back to the original post, makes you wonder if the photos are in fact genuine swingers, or are they 'staged' photos to promote the group?
Penetration without a condom is not something we would ever consider with anyone, apart from each other, and although I dont particularly like the taste or feel of them, we would never play without one. Using condoms and getting checked out regularly, in my opinion, should be something that all sensible swingers do. It helps to keep us 'safer' and also the people that we meet. Although condoms are not 100% guaranteed to keep you free of desease, its like crossing the road, looking both ways does not guarantee you wont get run over, but it certainly reduces the odds of it happening.
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Hi naughty wigan couple - indeed you have a great profile for informing potential players what you're into and how you play whilst remaining deliciously sexy.
Just wondered whether you actually do get checked regularly and how often? Know this is probably a bit personal to post in here and maybe a bit nosey on my part to ask but interested. We were checked quite a while ago out of precaution rather than need to be as a result of any issues and agree - it is simple, painless and a great way of making sure everything is as it should be. What we dont do is make this a regular thing and wondering if its as easy as it is, why we dont so just wondered how often people get themselves checked?
Sex God
We do get checked out twice yearly but since our last check up we have not played with anyone else, and at this rate, it may be a while before another check up is needed 
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... not really sure what you mean about 'no condom - no sex' validating your view?
I think I see where Pebble's coming from with that point. If bareback sex never happened at a swing meet then it would be taken as read that condoms were always used. But doesn't the fact that you have to clearly state you won't do bareback give out the message that there are always two options?
Sex God
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... not really sure what you mean about 'no condom - no sex' validating your view?
I think I see where Pebble's coming from with that point. If bareback sex never happened at a swing meet then it would be taken as read that condoms were always used. But doesn't the fact that you have to clearly state you won't do bareback give out the message that there are always two options?
Thanks Cubes, you know how blonde I can be sometimes, understand the point now
Sex God
We never do bareback, not even with those we trust. Lets face it, if those you trust trust others and those others have others they trust, it only takes one little old white lie for the whole arrangement to get seriously fucked up.
As for check ups... Three times a year and even though I don't play with others, just the Mrs does, I get checked out too. Might as well as it makes us both happier to go at the same time, it's supportive and other things could come to light too.
It's matter of respect for yourselves and your playmates to use a condom in my opinion. Although my opinions on this subject are well documented in forum. As a matter of fact at one point early on in my posting days I would of just said. "People not using condoms are just selfish f*cking idiots":mad: Mind you nowadays I have mellowed so very much. i miss the old me sometimes though
As for check ups... Three times a year and even though I don't play with others, just the Mrs does, I get checked out too. Might as well as it makes us both happier to go at the same time, it's supportive and other things could come to light too.
It's matter of respect for yourselves and your playmates to use a condom in my opinion. Although my opinions on this subject are well documented in forum. As a matter of fact at one point early on in my posting days I would of just said. "People not using condoms are just selfish f*cking idiots":mad: Mind you nowadays I have mellowed so very much. i miss the old me sometimes though
Sex God
Totally agree with lost :thumbup:
We don't get checked out but we have never and will never play bareback with anyone except each other. Best to be safe than sorry.
We don't get checked out but we have never and will never play bareback with anyone except each other. Best to be safe than sorry.
Sex God
While using a condom will minimise the risk of catching anything there is still a risk so I'd suggest you got checked out even though you do always use them.
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While using a condom will minimise the risk of catching anything there is still a risk so I'd suggest you got checked out even though you do always use them.
I have also thought about the whole condom issue.
As much as condoms are not nice to look at, and my partner loves the feel of warm cum squirting in her, i would never be comfortable with another man cumming inside her. One of the main reasons is pregnancy (we have had a few scares even with the pill) and secondly disease and infection.
From a guys perspective, I think a lot of guys have it in there head that they are the ones that are squirting and leaving there fluids. so they prob wont catch anything. Although i am not sure how incorrect this is.
My main issue is with Oral. I have heard of a lot of men and women haveing oral sex without protection in any form, also more interestingly swallowing. As sexy as swalllowing is, i thought HPV (genital warts) can even spread to the throat, where the virus can cause cancer.
Now here are scanrios that make me think i am not up for the swing thing:
1. If a man spends 40 mins continuously licking a woman out, he is essentially licking her fluids which will spread all over is mouth and inside his mouth.
2. Recently my self and my partner have been discussing a 3 sum with another woman, and i was thinking would i lick out a woman i didnt know? Also if i didnt.. and my GF did.. then i kissed her.. whats the difference?
3. My partner hates the taste and feel of condoms in her mouth. Latex or not. And no doubt a part of a MFM is for her to be spit roasted, either way.
What happens if its only natural to spit roast without a condom even if he doesnt cum in her mouth?
4. Is it difficult to say you want a dental dam? to lick the woman out?
On a side note i am seriously considering find a regualr swinging couple, and for us to come to an agreement to get regular STD/i checks and to show the document to say we are clean.
ORAL SEX IS NOT SAFE SEX - SIMPLES!
Oral sex is only safe if the man wears a condom or a dental dam is placed over the vagina.
I don't know if dental dams are inexpensive but the link below gives you a step by step guide on how to make one yourself.
Take note about using condoms with spermicide though!!:P
Oral sex is only safe if the man wears a condom or a dental dam is placed over the vagina.
I don't know if dental dams are inexpensive but the link below gives you a step by step guide on how to make one yourself.
Take note about using condoms with spermicide though!!:P
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ORAL SEX IS NOT SAFE SEX - SIMPLES!
Oral sex is only safe if the man wears a condom or a dental dam is placed over the vagina.
I don't know if dental dams are inexpensive but the link below gives you a step by step guide on how to make one yourself.
Take note about using condoms with spermicide though!!:P
Lol yeah thats why i have only ever been down on 4 girls! lol
Hmm i wonder if you can catch something from a mouth! Eitrher in your mouth, pussy or dick?
Sex God
Although everyone we know of and have played with use condoms for sex, I don't know anyone who uses them for oral.
Sex God
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Although everyone we know of and have played with use condoms for sex, I don't know anyone who uses them for oral.
I wouldn't. I also always swallow - to be honest. I believe the greatest risk is infection through the mouth. Nothing survives stomach acid.
Regular checks are absolutely it.
Well we have Movember when the boys grow a 'tache. Maybe we should have GUgust and folks who don't have a regular test regime go down and get tested. :thumbup: (GU - Genito-Urinary clinic)
Sex God
Of course for really safe sex all you need is solitude and a latex glove. If you want to add lots of lube and some well chosen inanimate objects or something from the veggie rack then so be it.
