I was talking to a friend today about my litle cousin. She is thirteen years old. Now I went to her house and up to her room the other day to ask for a skoosh of her perfume (its chanel) and when I walked in she was sitting with hardly anything on. She had stilletos, a micro mini skirt and Im not kidding, if she bent down you'd have seen her bum, a very revealing top which showed of what little cleavage she has and a push up padded bra on :shock: .
So I said to her "where do you think your going dressed like that? The red light district?" and of course she replied
"No, I want to look hot for Brad and I dont want people thinking bad things about me!"
Obviously disgusted at this I went down and said to my aunty about it and she said she takes it off me but even i dont dress like that. Then I find ot shes already lost her virginty,a dn apparently that was my fault too but Ive spent the last 2 years trying to stear her away from it as much as possible!!!
Anyway, what do yous think of the way kids dress and act nowadays?
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lol, I know. I sound like my nana when talking about this but it is totally out of order. The pressure on kids to look good these days, well the pressur eon anyone to look good these days!!! Honestly, if your not skinny, nice skin, perfect hair, tall, have nice clothes, blah blah blah then there will be someone there to bring you down. And people try to change themselves because of it and it makes them evern more down about it all 
For the last 5 years the most common expression uttered in my household is: "What does your mum think of you dressed like that?" 
But not at 13 though. All my three girls are sixteen and over, and only started shocking me when they started buying their own clothes. :?
How much of the pressure to look good is from parents saying "Don't do that, you will mess up your hair, don't do that you will mess up your clothes. We are going out, so you have to look your best."
lhk
Kat
But not at 13 though. All my three girls are sixteen and over, and only started shocking me when they started buying their own clothes. :? How much of the pressure to look good is from parents saying "Don't do that, you will mess up your hair, don't do that you will mess up your clothes. We are going out, so you have to look your best."
lhk
Kat
Call me old fashioned but 13 is far far to young to be even thinking about losing your virginity........it really is mind boggling.
As for the clothes issue,,,,,,,,i wear more on the baech than some a parent cant be easy but you really do have to wonder when you see some kids out and about
Guess im just a boring old fart
As for the clothes issue,,,,,,,,i wear more on the baech than some a parent cant be easy but you really do have to wonder when you see some kids out and about
Guess im just a boring old fart
I think its down to commercial pressure, which is then translated into peer pressure.
The girl singers and groups are pressured into dressing sexily; their target audience is (say) the mid teens, but there is a spread to it, so the early teens and younger are subject to the marketing as well. Marketing/advertsing is effective, otherwise £billions wouldn't be spent on it. So a few kids start dressing "inappropriately" and there's your peer pressure. Of course, if parents were able to excerise proper control over the kids (rant, rant, rant)
But how do we define inapproriate? Is a majorette or cheerleaders costume ok? And what about those American parents who dress their infants up, including full makeup, to take part in beauty competitions - don't they cal them pageants? Frankly, I think that's sick. Again, it's down to the parents (and other responsible adults) to set the standards of behavior, including dress.
Well done you for doing your best. Just continue to try to be a sensible infulence on your niece, to show her that you can be a fun person, liked and respected, without looking like a tart.
K
The girl singers and groups are pressured into dressing sexily; their target audience is (say) the mid teens, but there is a spread to it, so the early teens and younger are subject to the marketing as well. Marketing/advertsing is effective, otherwise £billions wouldn't be spent on it. So a few kids start dressing "inappropriately" and there's your peer pressure. Of course, if parents were able to excerise proper control over the kids (rant, rant, rant)
But how do we define inapproriate? Is a majorette or cheerleaders costume ok? And what about those American parents who dress their infants up, including full makeup, to take part in beauty competitions - don't they cal them pageants? Frankly, I think that's sick. Again, it's down to the parents (and other responsible adults) to set the standards of behavior, including dress.
Well done you for doing your best. Just continue to try to be a sensible infulence on your niece, to show her that you can be a fun person, liked and respected, without looking like a tart.
K
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I was talking to a friend today about my litle cousin. She is thirteen years old. Now I went to her house and up to her room the other day to ask for a skoosh of her perfume (its chanel) and when I walked in she was sitting with hardly anything on. She had stilletos, a micro mini skirt and Im not kidding, if she bent down you'd have seen her bum, a very revealing top which showed of what little cleavage she has and a push up padded bra on :shock: .
So I said to her "where do you think your going dressed like that? The red light district?" and of course she replied
"No, I want to look hot for Brad and I dont want people thinking bad things about me!"
Obviously disgusted at this I went down and said to my aunty about it and she said she takes it off me but even i dont dress like that. Then I find ot shes already lost her virginty,a dn apparently that was my fault too but Ive spent the last 2 years trying to stear her away from it as much as possible!!!
Anyway, what do yous think of the way kids dress and act nowadays?
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Its bloody scary and I do think sometimes they could be doing with some more clothes on but then I think its more because I worry about other people out there. Some people (or young boys!) a lot still seem to have that perception that if a girl dresses up or rather down that shes easy even a lot of immature men think this!
Hard subject though because teenagers do grow up so fast or think they are but dont really have a clue!
I have a daughter who is ten and right slap bang in the middle of puberty and likes dressing up etc and a lot of people have mistaken her for being older than she is and I wouldnt say that even when dressed up its not like adult clothes shes wearing it is pretty normal stuff that most ten year olds wear!
I dread to think what she will be like in about 3 years
Quite frankly Im shitting myself I just have to hope Ive given her enough information to be smart enough to take care of herself, also I dont know for sure what age she will feel sexually mature enough either (another thing I dread to think!) but I suppose if she has enough information to make a decent desicion for herself and to at least be careful and aware of the pros and cons (dangers!) then what can I do except give her condoms and make sure shes on the pill! Maybe that wont be enough but then maybe Ill have realised a lot more about her too when she gets to that age! Suppose its just a learning curve for both of us!
Master of Sex
i have to agree me everyone who has posted, kids don't have time to be kids anymore, and with everyone in power (i.e. TB and labour) they don't have anything else to do, no skool trips, no adventure groups that have an elemant of risk etc, becuase there told it's not safe for them to do it. Don't get me going though
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I thought about sex all the time when I was 13! I'd have never done it though as I'd have been too nervous and in the end I was 17 
I do, however, think there's no real harm in it as long as the parents know and sense is used. if a 13y/o girl sleeps with a 13y/o boy and he wears a condom etc. then why not? if the legal age was 20 then there would be people moaning about these "flippin 17 year olds", if it was 12 there would still be paople moaning.
I actually told my 15 year old brother off the other day for getting drunk at the weekends. unfortunately my mum then reminded me of the time I had my stomach pumped after my mates 16th birthday party :cry:
rose coloured specs I tell you! I'd be willing to bet that if you think really hard about what age you were and what you did then you'll be less shocked.
All that being said, 13 y/o girls just don't look good in little tops and mini skirts etc as they don't have the curves for it yet (NO COMMENTS PLEASE, especially about my curves, I'm very sensitive! lol)
I do, however, think there's no real harm in it as long as the parents know and sense is used. if a 13y/o girl sleeps with a 13y/o boy and he wears a condom etc. then why not? if the legal age was 20 then there would be people moaning about these "flippin 17 year olds", if it was 12 there would still be paople moaning.
I actually told my 15 year old brother off the other day for getting drunk at the weekends. unfortunately my mum then reminded me of the time I had my stomach pumped after my mates 16th birthday party
:cry: rose coloured specs I tell you! I'd be willing to bet that if you think really hard about what age you were and what you did then you'll be less shocked.
All that being said, 13 y/o girls just don't look good in little tops and mini skirts etc as they don't have the curves for it yet (NO COMMENTS PLEASE, especially about my curves, I'm very sensitive! lol)
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I remember looking in Woolies at the clothes with our 5 year old in had fake leather mini skirts and halter neck tops for 5 year olds rediculous,let them have some innocence while they can
now that just isn't right, who buys them for 5 year olds! and more to the point why!
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I thought about sex all the time when I was 13! I'd have never done it though as I'd have been too nervous and in the end I was 17
I do, however, think there's no real harm in it as long as the parents know and sense is used. if a 13y/o girl sleeps with a 13y/o boy and he wears a condom etc. then why not? if the legal age was 20 then there would be people moaning about these "flippin 17 year olds", if it was 12 there would still be paople moaning.
I actually told my 15 year old brother off the other day for getting drunk at the weekends. unfortunately my mum then reminded me of the time I had my stomach pumped after my mates 16th birthday party
rose coloured specs I tell you! I'd be willing to bet that if you think really hard about what age you were and what you did then you'll be less shocked.
All that being said, 13 y/o girls just don't look good in little tops and mini skirts etc as they don't have the curves for it yet (NO COMMENTS PLEASE, especially about my curves, I'm very sensitive! lol)
Blimey i can't believe you said it was ok for 13 years old to sleep together if they use condoms.....how irresponsible is off its illegal.....at 13 you shouldn't even feel the need for sex your still a child for christ sake.
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Blimey i can't believe you said it was ok for 13 years old to sleep together if they use condoms.....how irresponsible is off its illegal.....at 13 you shouldn't even feel the need for sex your still a child for christ sake.
sorry, explain to me why, just because it is illegal, that this is irresponsible? I know many things that are illegal but aren't that bad and feel I explained my opinion well to which you gave a quick knee jerk reaction which seems to be what you think society wants to hear.
women voting used to be illegal, is that irresponsible? opium used to be legal, is that responsible?
Give young people some credit. try to guide them but they are not pets, they have a mind of their own, and if you listen and discuss they might decide that sex isn't for them just yet, or might wait for someone they are in love with. or they might wait another 3 years until they are legally entitled to do what they like and work off the opression by sleeping with EVERYONE. you never can tell.
sorry all if I offended, but I believe it's futile to tell young people what to do, and a differing response now and then does no harm
Well I have a 13 year old son and I am very concerned that he may sleep with his girlfriend so I am taking a very open view with him and hopefully he will be sensible about it. His girlfriend also seems to have her head screwed on so I am keeping my fingers crossed. My advice to both of them was 'I'd rather you didn't but if it did happen please use condoms'.
I know it's illegal but since when has that stopped underage teens having sex? Obviously there are a lot of issues and I would prefer my son not to have sex just yet but I also remember what it was like to have raging hormones, I indulged in heavy petting with boys at 13 so I know it's not impossible.
I would prefer my son to know where I keep condoms and advise him on respect, legal issues and contraception than just shout NO! and ignore the issue. How many teenage girls have ended up pregnant simply because they were ignorant about sex, or naive boys who believe urban myths that you won't get a girl pregnant if you do certain things a certain way? Much better IMO to be open with teens and hope that they will make the right decision for themselves.
I know it's illegal but since when has that stopped underage teens having sex? Obviously there are a lot of issues and I would prefer my son not to have sex just yet but I also remember what it was like to have raging hormones, I indulged in heavy petting with boys at 13 so I know it's not impossible.
I would prefer my son to know where I keep condoms and advise him on respect, legal issues and contraception than just shout NO! and ignore the issue. How many teenage girls have ended up pregnant simply because they were ignorant about sex, or naive boys who believe urban myths that you won't get a girl pregnant if you do certain things a certain way? Much better IMO to be open with teens and hope that they will make the right decision for themselves.
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I remember looking in Woolies at the clothes with our 5 year old in had fake leather mini skirts and halter neck tops for 5 year olds rediculous,let them have some innocence while they can
now that just isn't right, who buys them for 5 year olds! and more to the point why!
One of my sister's neighbours buys that sort of stuff for her three year old :shock:
The child wears miniature versions of clothing similar to her mother's stuff - skirts no wider than a belt, thongs, little halter or strapless tops, ear rings, gold bracelets and even had a stick on belly jewell this summer :eeek:
She is seldom seen without her finger and toe nails painted and often attends pre-school sporting blue eyeshadow
I know little girls like to dress up and play with make up but this is everyday for her!The child looks like a tart in miniature, which I find totally distasteful and I'm sure dressing a child in such a way as this is down to them being no more than a fashion accessorie for the parent's - in this case a couple in their mid 30s!
Tracy-Jayne
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well said
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The child wears miniature versions of clothing similar to her mother's stuff - skirts no wider than a belt, thongs, little halter or strapless tops, ear rings, gold bracelets and even had a stick on belly jewell this summer :eeek:
Tracy-Jayne
they make thongs for 3 year olds? why would a 3 year old care about vpl? that definitely is taking it too far
Even if the circumstances were controlled and precautions used allowing children to have sex at that age is just wrong......they are kids and should behave like kids,sex will not solve anything at that should take responsibility about what their children are doing....don't let them grow up too quicky.......there be plenty of grief to come when they are adults and their 13 years old are having sex.
Mothers who dress their kids like this are sexualising their kids, making them easy targets for pedos. Sure the may not get close enough to touch, but what's going on in his head? Do these moms take that on board when playing dress up with their daughters?
Thank God I don't have girls. I'd be neurotic
Thank God I don't have girls. I'd be neurotic
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Even if the circumstances were controlled and precautions used allowing children to have sex at that age is just wrong......they are kids and should behave like kids,sex will not solve anything at that should take responsibility about what their children are doing....don't let them grow up too quicky.......there be plenty of grief to come when they are adults and their 13 years old are having sex.
now there's an openminded attitude, I wish there were more people like you around. at what age do you stop calling them kids? is it their 16th birthday? did you wake up on your 16th and realise that you were grown up, and thank your lucky stars you hadn't done anything silly? first beer at 18. and of course you never play now, and certainly havn't made a single mistake since becoming a grownup? please....
As for little girls in grown up clothes and make up, I find it incredibly unpleasant and worrying. My other child is an 8 year old girl and I can see no reason for allowing young children to dress up like mini prostitutes, I find plenty of fashion clothes for her that don't show acres of flesh and give out inappropriate signals. What happened to little girls wanting to be pretty princesses with frilly dresses and sparkly plastic jewellery?
I think parents who buy clothes like that for their children are stupid and irresponsible, it's a very worrying trend at the moment.
And those American pageants are nothing short of obscene. Nasty horrible pushy parents making their pretty children look like plastic singing dancing dolls to fulfil some strange fantasy that their child is more special than anyone elses!
I think parents who buy clothes like that for their children are stupid and irresponsible, it's a very worrying trend at the moment.
And those American pageants are nothing short of obscene. Nasty horrible pushy parents making their pretty children look like plastic singing dancing dolls to fulfil some strange fantasy that their child is more special than anyone elses!
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What happened to little girls wanting to be pretty princesses with frilly dresses and sparkly plastic jewellery? !
I'd like to be a pretty princess
:lol: :lol: 
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Blimey i can't believe you said it was ok for 13 years old to sleep together if they use condoms.....how irresponsible is off its illegal.....at 13 you shouldn't even feel the need for sex your still a child for christ sake.
sorry, explain to me why, just because it is illegal, that this is irresponsible? I know many things that are illegal but aren't that bad and feel I explained my opinion well to which you gave a quick knee jerk reaction which seems to be what you think society wants to hear.
women voting used to be illegal, is that irresponsible? opium used to be legal, is that responsible?
Give young people some credit. try to guide them but they are not pets, they have a mind of their own, and if you listen and discuss they might decide that sex isn't for them just yet, or might wait for someone they are in love with. or they might wait another 3 years until they are legally entitled to do what they like and work off the opression by sleeping with EVERYONE. you never can tell.
sorry all if I offended, but I believe it's futile to tell young people what to do, and a differing response now and then does no harm
Well said. :thumbup:
As someone who first had sex at 12 (To a girl who is now my wife) I don't believe there is anything inherently wrong or irresponsible in teenagers having sex with each other - the urge to experiment and explore sexually is biological not social, it is not dependant on media influence. My mum who is now over 60 has said that she was very interested in boys at 12 and she was hardly brought up in a 'permissive' society.
In my opinion the most important thing with young people is to give them proper balanced information and allow them to make their own decisions and encourage them to take proper precautions. Which is worse a 13 year old having protected sex or a 16 year old who through being un-informed gets pregnant and misses all her exams?
Roger the Dragon
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Well said. :thumbup:
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was beginning to think I should have just kept quiet! Quote by da69ve
Even if the circumstances were controlled and precautions used allowing children to have sex at that age is just wrong......they are kids and should behave like kids,sex will not solve anything at that should take responsibility about what their children are doing....don't let them grow up too quicky.......there be plenty of grief to come when they are adults and their 13 years old are having sex.
I am not saying I would allow him to have sex, I am acknowledging that 13 year olds are rebellious by nature and just saying don't do it to them won't make a jot of difference! Of course if I found him having sex I would object and stop them but teenagers will do things whether we want them to or not and they will find ways and means of doing it, often especially if we have insisted that they are not allowed to! I am giving my son and his girlfriend sensible advice, not telling them Don't Do It, simply because it is a much more practical way of dealing with things and I would rather they knew the right way to go about it IF they got carried away than have to deal with my sons girlfriend being pregnant.
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Even if the circumstances were controlled and precautions used allowing children to have sex at that age is just wrong......they are kids and should behave like kids,sex will not solve anything at that should take responsibility about what their children are doing....don't let them grow up too quicky.......there be plenty of grief to come when they are adults and their 13 years old are having sex.
now there's an openminded attitude, I wish there were more people like you around. at what age do you stop calling them kids? is it their 16th birthday? did you wake up on your 16th and realise that you were grown up, and thank your lucky stars you hadn't done anything silly? first beer at 18. and of course you never play now, and certainly havn't made a single mistake since becoming a grownup? please....
We will have to agree to disagree or else this could go on all night!
Orgasminator
I'd quite like to know the exact age we become responsible first if that's ok, just in case I ever have kids...
