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On the subject of emplyment (or not) I'm a proud mommy today.
My eldest son is in college 4 days a week. Today's his off day and he has an interview with a call centre this afternoon. So fingers tightly crossed x
But what makes me reallyproud of him is....
he dressed himself. And he looks good :shock: Hey I'm talking about my hip-hop obsessed son here. DJ :censored: to those who listen to his radio show. Have you seen hip-hop fashion? :shock:
Even worse still, have you heard them talk? :shock: :x Now on that score I do admit, I have a tight knot of panic in the pit of the belly right now. I did mention it to him, but whether he took note 
I'm praying.
Anyway, just needed to share that :P
Now best I log off. Can't have my boy finding employment before I do
My eldest son is in college 4 days a week. Today's his off day and he has an interview with a call centre this afternoon. So fingers tightly crossed x
But what makes me reallyproud of him is....
he dressed himself. And he looks good :shock: Hey I'm talking about my hip-hop obsessed son here. DJ :censored: to those who listen to his radio show. Have you seen hip-hop fashion? :shock:
Even worse still, have you heard them talk? :shock: :x Now on that score I do admit, I have a tight knot of panic in the pit of the belly right now. I did mention it to him, but whether he took note I'm praying.Anyway, just needed to share that :P
Now best I log off. Can't have my boy finding employment before I do
Quote by Libra-Love
On the subject of emplyment (or not) I'm a proud mommy today.
My eldest son is in college 4 days a week. Today's his off day and he has an interview with a call centre this afternoon. So fingers tightly crossed x
But what makes me really proud of him is....
he dressed himself. And he looks good :shock: Hey I'm talking about my hip-hop obsessed son here. DJ :censored: to those who listen to his radio show. Have you seen hip-hop fashion? :shock:
Anyway, just needed to share that :P
Now best I log off. Can't have my boy finding employment before I do
Im guessing your son is somewhere between 16 and 18. From my experience, the n ext few years will see a great change and in a while you will see him turn into (near enough) the person you always knew he could be!! Smart reponsible and conformist, in some ways a shame!! The most amusing incident for me was when eldest son started lecturing his, younger , g/f about how she needed to go to university and study hard, quiet funny when the same boy had spent his earlier years telling me he didnt need all that stuff and could manage quiet well without an education!!
Sex God
aren't all teenagers 'tortured souls' Goth or not?
or is it just mine?
sympathy please
and fingers crossed for your son LL
or is it just mine?
sympathy please
and fingers crossed for your son LL
Why does that not surprise me??? Sex God
Hey Venus, you might meet the Sarge in there. Just think Sarge, Venus could be giving you a bed bath this time next week 
Quote by Sgt Bilko
Venus could be giving you a bed bath this time next week
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Now now Sarge, don`t resist, I just need to make sure you are not hiding any sharp objects on you before we continue....bend over, there`s a good boy. This won`t hurt a bit, I promise :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Venusxxx
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Im guessing your son is somewhere between 16 and 18. From my experience, the n ext few years will see a great change and in a while you will see him turn into (near enough) the person you always knew he could be!! Smart reponsible and conformist, in some ways a shame!!
But when will his room stop smelling like a hamsters cage?
Quote by VenusnMars
Libra, as the parent of a Goth (who seems to be growing out of it) you have my sympathies!
No, actually I lie, I love that Goth look , it`s the `tortured soul` act that drives me up the wall!
Seriously, all the best to your son
Venusxxx
Thanks Venus. Nice to know others are going through the same thing too
And thanks Freckledbird for keeping those fingered crossed x, he got the job! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Quote by Libra-Love
Im guessing your son is somewhere between 16 and 18. From my experience, the n ext few years will see a great change and in a while you will see him turn into (near enough) the person you always knew he could be!! Smart reponsible and conformist, in some ways a shame!!
But when will his room stop smelling like a hamsters cage?
The room will stop smelling like a hamsters cage when he get a g/f he wants to bring home. Suddenly he will dig out all the festering 10 year old, dirty sock from behind the wardrobe and he will ask, (yes ask) for some clean bedding!!!
Sex God
great news LL 
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AndyS HE, as the wife of the person who WAS refused benefit because he had a dog, I can assure you that it was NOT BOL-- LOCKS. The people at the DSS have even told us themselves that the decision was wrong, as they have seen him for themselves in sheer agony with his spinal injury, and shoulder pain doubled up in pain in their office. My husband was asked if we had a dog, to which he replied ,yes, he was then asked if he took it for walks, he replied yes, and this was put in the report , but what the doctor failed to mention the dog is never put on a lead and runs in an open field, when the medical report came back it said if he can hold a dog on a lead he must have full use of his arm, so he was fit to go back to driving, hence our benefit stopped. However as our GP and orthopaedic surgeon will not allow him to return to work due to his injuries we find ourselves in a very difficult situation.
I myself worked for 10 years in the DSS, so I understand the system, and we had no glass panels to protect us from irate customers as we treated them with a lot more respect than some of the Civil Servants do today, but what goes arround comes arround.
But thats my poijnt - his benefit wasn't stopped because of owning a dog - but because of how the question was asked / answered - please don't think i am having a go at you or your hubby I am not, but your post said his benefit was stopped because he owned a dog - i simply said that wouldn't be the case and you've agreed with this with the explaination. It was stopped as he walks for x hours per day - nowt to do with the dog - he is mobile in physically for x hours per day. Yep by the sounds of it this was not the full story and his benifeit shouldn't have been stopped but the point i was making is that people listen and share the bits of the story they want to talk about and usually they miss the actual point!.
I take it you appealed against the decision? The fiirst course is to ring up and get an explaination then if you still don't agree ask for a "reconsideration" make sure you get this in writing froma different decision maker - kep on harrassing them till this happens then make an appeal. This is a brief outline of the Decision Making and Appeals process - make sure it is followed. (just as a side note - the doctor doesn't make the decsion to disallow benefit - he simply scores you - the decsion is made by a civil servant)
Glass panels - i take it your talking about the screens? Yep i agree the best thing they ever did was remove them from the BA offices. Having been a visiting officer etc i have learnt to deal with people in a proper manner that very rarley lead to confrontation.
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The chances of 80 thousand public service jobs being really axed is about the same as a snowballs chance in hell.
They'll just be re-located to some agency or another. And they'll still be entitled to a pension.
Nope there are going to be job cuts of around 80,000 full time posts.
I agree some may tranfers to other dept - but not many, the civil service is going down the pan, and i worry for anyone who has to claim benefits in the coming years - there simply won't be enough staff to process the claims.
If you look forward (in a financial sense) you can see why money has to be saved.
If my local council doesn't put council tax up by twice the rate of inflation it will face real problems in about 10 years time.
Because then it will be spending ALL its income on paying salaries and pensions of staff, and will have NONE to provide services.
So, you try to save.
Is this the staffs fault - they were offered a contract of employment at certain terms and they signed that contract - Also your talking about two different employers really.
On the above your talking about council employess - i.e Local Authority staff - thye run a contributory scheme i.e staff pay a lot of money in so again should expect a good pension.
Civil Servant have a totally different Pension Scheme - they pay approx 1.5% of gr5oss earnings into there pension and the govenrment pays a huge amount in for them - but this is the trade off for such low pay we receive. The civil service for the normal grades is a crap "payer" but the asociated benfits are excellent.
On to "unemployment benefit" (now jobseekers allowance)
The reason they are "easy" on you when you first sign-on is that nearly half of new claimants find work within a few weeks anyway....it gets progressively harder to sign-on without interviews after the first month....and the interviews get more intensive as you are uemployed longer.
Can't disagree with that.
I won't mention other "benefits", like child tax credit, which has meant that one guy I work with dropped his work hours from over 50 to less than 40. Because he is 50 quid a week better off working 40 hours than working for 54 hours.
Yep true a total crap system is the tax credits!!
The only REAL way forward for this country is to drastically cut government employees, by at least 50% or more. After all, we now have over 3.5 million people working for various government departments. Time for the cold wind of change to blow down civil service corridors.
and how do you suggest anyone needing Benefit actually gets that benefit?? I agree on on finacial terms there are a huge amount of employees - but how do you then deliver the essential services without the people to do it?
Not as easy as you think.
I am going to try and stop reading this thread as it bugs me how people see Civil Servants.
The big thing i will say is this.
If you are ever unhappy with the service you recevie from a civil servant speak to their supervisor - keep going through the chain of command. But if your unhappy with policy lobby your MP to get the rules changed - Civil Servants simply follows legislation set down by parliment.
Yes, Andy, you are right to a certain extent, but the medical examiner used the term, he walks his dog, for EVERY section and question on his report, he also stated that hubby had no difficulty in removing his pullover, but seeing as it was one of the hotest days on which he had his medical, this was certainly not true as he had a shirt we have appealed, we think thats why we are being treated the way we were today.
Giro not received on Tuesday, but issued on previous Friday. Told to see fraud officer 11am, after filling in forms and numerous questions ,counter payment arrival at the Post Office at , the postmistress informed us that she could not cash the giro as there was an error on it and we had to return to the office. new giro ,was told that there was a clerical error on the first one, this ones ok, bearing in mind first giro had passed through three different sections to get to us and been checked by three different people. So if this is not incompetence, and a waste of resources what is it?
Giro not received on Tuesday, but issued on previous Friday. Told to see fraud officer 11am, after filling in forms and numerous questions ,counter payment arrival at the Post Office at , the postmistress informed us that she could not cash the giro as there was an error on it and we had to return to the office. new giro ,was told that there was a clerical error on the first one, this ones ok, bearing in mind first giro had passed through three different sections to get to us and been checked by three different people. So if this is not incompetence, and a waste of resources what is it?
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I won't mention other "benefits", like child tax credit, which has meant that one guy I work with dropped his work hours from over 50 to less than 40. Because he is 50 quid a week better off working 40 hours than working for 54 hours.
Yep true a total crap system is the tax credits!!
The administration of this is a total shambles but I hope you don't mean the benefit itself.
It's the difference between surviving and existing for many many people. Without it we'd be in the poverty section!!!!! It's only crap to those who resent it!
Quote by Calista
I won't mention other "benefits", like child tax credit, which has meant that one guy I work with dropped his work hours from over 50 to less than 40. Because he is 50 quid a week better off working 40 hours than working for 54 hours.
Yep true a total crap system is the tax credits!!
The administration of this is a total shambles but I hope you don't mean the benefit itself.
It's the difference between surviving and existing for many many people. Without it we'd be in the poverty section!!!!! It's only crap to those who resent it!
Sorry very poor wording on my behalf - an excellent idea is the benefit but totally rushed through without much actual testing and thought. There are so many anomalies (spelling?) like the example given that someone who works less hours ends up with more cash. Unfortunatley it was a "political" benefit that was rushed through.
I totally agree with the idea, but not all the rules.
Like you say the administration is totally crap as well - not the fault of the ordinary staff but high management and government again rushed it through.
Like i say apologies for the poor wording, a realy good idea but not always the best incentive to get people working full time and off benefits.
Andy
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Yes, Andy, you are right to a certain extent, but the medical examiner used the term, he walks his dog, for EVERY section and question on his report, he also stated that hubby had no difficulty in removing his pullover, but seeing as it was one of the hotest days on which he had his medical, this was certainly not true as he had a shirt we have appealed, we think thats why we are being treated the way we were today.
Giro not received on Tuesday, but issued on previous Friday. Told to see fraud officer 11am, after filling in forms and numerous questions ,counter payment arrival at the Post Office at , the postmistress informed us that she could not cash the giro as there was an error on it and we had to return to the office. new giro ,was told that there was a clerical error on the first one, this ones ok, bearing in mind first giro had passed through three different sections to get to us and been checked by three different people. So if this is not incompetence, and a waste of resources what is it?
Please don't think I am saying everything is perfect - iI am not.
Yep totally unacceptabel for your Giro to be fecked (being pedantic now but i hope it wasn't an actualy Giro but one of the new Exception based cheques? - should be a as giro's don't exist now due to Direct Payments)
If you've spent money getting to and from the post office ask for a compensation payment for travel expenses.
Whay hay we agree about something!!!
About the dog walking - does sound unfair, but i am glad you can see it's not the actual dog ownership that is the problem more that the doctor has inferred that he can walk for hours etc. It horror stories like this that make our job so much harder - we have to calm people down for ages before actaully sorting out the query.
Obviously i can't speak for the people involved but i don't you appealling was the reason for the crap attitude towards you. Counter staff don't usually take it personally that your doing a particulr course of action, obviously i can't comment fully, but hang on in there and take care.
p.s by appealing have they reduced the money by 20%? may be worth checking exactly what they are doing with the claim.
