We're new to this........
Where should we start.....over 50's.....
What sort of venues are there for senior swingers.
We would prefer safety in numbers, a sauna, a bar, a restaurant,
a late night club...somewhere public-private...we may not like what we find...
so we need to keep our options open.
I hope this is a productive question?
Charlie and Birdie
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Venues in the UK for the over 50's
Hi Guyz, keep the faith I'm sure there will be a few along shortly to provide you with some answers.
Personally speaking methinks you're inadvertently setting a barrier by mentioning clubs for the over 50's. Swinging is for liberated adults and by it's very definition should not really be based on age (certainly not in a club scene anyway) I mean, if you really want cocoa & slippers you may want to consider joining a local Darby & Joan club, a member here 'Cubes' has all the info on that for you, he's quite the social butterfly don't you know *smiling*
As for your comments regarding Chameleons and all that is written here may be fake? presumably you've read the reviews in the club section? they can't ALL be wrong meluvvly, I've not as yet been to the place so I can't comment but from what you pick up it seems to be a well run, friendly enough joint...dont think it ticks all your boxes (a sauna, a bar, a restaurant,a late night club...somewhere public-private..' but there are some that it does (can't have it all right?) What may be an issue for you if you're just venturing back in is the dress code of down to yer pink sticky out bits from the off (underwear/towels sorta thang)
Liberty Elite in the midlands (they're on the review section) is a little more upmarket (and so are their entrance/membership prices) but the dress code is a bit more formal and it's not quite the hardened 'get yer bits out and chew on this' swingers club.
Of course there are the usual social evenings on the Lets Meet board, might be an idea to trap to one of those, bit of a dance, bite to eat/drink and maybe some flirting but as is the norm there is not usually any filthy stuff cos they're held in normal everyday venues...but with a leedle networking you might find some couples you gel with and perhaps go on from there? If nothing else the social gives you a chance to pick up on what gives in the swinging scene by way of chatting to others etc.
Good luck with it all and here is hoping you find what you're looking for *checks yer boxers for the contents and twangs meesis charlies bra strap*
Have fun!
Personally speaking methinks you're inadvertently setting a barrier by mentioning clubs for the over 50's. Swinging is for liberated adults and by it's very definition should not really be based on age (certainly not in a club scene anyway) I mean, if you really want cocoa & slippers you may want to consider joining a local Darby & Joan club, a member here 'Cubes' has all the info on that for you, he's quite the social butterfly don't you know *smiling*
As for your comments regarding Chameleons and all that is written here may be fake? presumably you've read the reviews in the club section? they can't ALL be wrong meluvvly, I've not as yet been to the place so I can't comment but from what you pick up it seems to be a well run, friendly enough joint...dont think it ticks all your boxes (a sauna, a bar, a restaurant,a late night club...somewhere public-private..' but there are some that it does (can't have it all right?) What may be an issue for you if you're just venturing back in is the dress code of down to yer pink sticky out bits from the off (underwear/towels sorta thang)
Liberty Elite in the midlands (they're on the review section) is a little more upmarket (and so are their entrance/membership prices) but the dress code is a bit more formal and it's not quite the hardened 'get yer bits out and chew on this' swingers club.
Of course there are the usual social evenings on the Lets Meet board, might be an idea to trap to one of those, bit of a dance, bite to eat/drink and maybe some flirting but as is the norm there is not usually any filthy stuff cos they're held in normal everyday venues...but with a leedle networking you might find some couples you gel with and perhaps go on from there? If nothing else the social gives you a chance to pick up on what gives in the swinging scene by way of chatting to others etc.
Good luck with it all and here is hoping you find what you're looking for *checks yer boxers for the contents and twangs meesis charlies bra strap*
Have fun!
our thanks for the mention of two CLUBS being Chameleon and Liberty. I have no doubt
all of this and my way of putting the questions are likely to be old hat the minute we
break the ice and enter a club and realise there was nothing to it ....after all.
However until that moment, which may well be just going along to a social evening...if only there was a bar where regulars go.....just walk in with no strings and mingle, have a beer, get the feel of the place and the people that come with it....as I say this may only be a question of familiarity.
Still it is also b=very important to chat to welcoming and helpful members here and learn
about it all and how they see it...one or two have already come back to us....nice people quite obviously and very wary also as we are....all is never what it seems.....
I hope we meet some people who will be willing to escort us to a venue....even if our profiles do not match.
Charlie
i am enjoying and showing Birdie all these different topics and the very clever posters....takes ages to read but it's great.
all of this and my way of putting the questions are likely to be old hat the minute we
break the ice and enter a club and realise there was nothing to it ....after all.
However until that moment, which may well be just going along to a social evening...if only there was a bar where regulars go.....just walk in with no strings and mingle, have a beer, get the feel of the place and the people that come with it....as I say this may only be a question of familiarity.
Still it is also b=very important to chat to welcoming and helpful members here and learn
about it all and how they see it...one or two have already come back to us....nice people quite obviously and very wary also as we are....all is never what it seems.....
I hope we meet some people who will be willing to escort us to a venue....even if our profiles do not match.
Charlie
i am enjoying and showing Birdie all these different topics and the very clever posters....takes ages to read but it's great.
Orgasminator
once you have taken the brave step and actually walked into the place you will see its not much scarier than walking into a new bar in any town. most clubs that dont have the dress down option as soon as you walk into a place would be a good place to start as it give the added protection of not having all your bits on show, so to speak. and gives added confidence of just chatting to folks. i love the atmosphere in most clubs i go to in the social areas and my personal faves are partners and townhouse. i find that immediately dressing down that chams offers is great for the more confidant but if your new it can be a bit intimidating at first until your used to it. like i say most that dont do the dressing down first offer the added confidence of having a drink at the bar area and am sure the staff will be willing to chat to you until you feel ready to take the plunge and have a wander around. feel assured its not as scary as people think and most clubs offer the option that you dont have to get undressed and play if your not totally confident. also some offer the facility to have private rooms to play in so your not overlooked unless you want to be
Orgasminator
also be advised that age is just a number and you will find a wide range of ages and sizes and colours etc that you will find in any local bar lol. best nights to go to clubs for as wide a range as possible are the party/ social nights also great for chatting and getting advice of a wide variety of folks
bythe number of people who have now seen our profile,
and the number that I have engaged in conversation.....
Quite how one separates dialogue into the stuff that's needed to click with a couple,
and the stuff that's needed just to have a friendly conversation and accept
whatever advice and guidance is on offer...I am reassured that people here will engage in friendly conversation even if the profile are not a match...it's all welcome...this is by far the most superior website I have come across....there was one in Biarritz last year but it demanded better linguistic ability than we had...so we gave that up. Mind you out of it came a wonderful sounding sex hotel high in the Pyrenees which we never quite got to.
Never mind, it's all very interesting so far, with very nice people marking our card
also about Cap D and I have set up a GROUP alerting folks to the formation of a club
on the Algarve later this year...I'm proposing an open club for the moment to let as many
people see what I am at,just search under "groups" for "Algarve Swingers"....
I plan to initiate this Swingers Heaven Members club with a MUNCH (I love the idea) at a location I know in Loule, near Faro and people wishing to attend this event(birthday party) should indicate that in the usual fashion, and after we can get down to the strictly private invitations...lots of security conscious players possible in the Golden Triangle.
S'nuff for now.
and the number that I have engaged in conversation.....
Quite how one separates dialogue into the stuff that's needed to click with a couple,
and the stuff that's needed just to have a friendly conversation and accept
whatever advice and guidance is on offer...I am reassured that people here will engage in friendly conversation even if the profile are not a match...it's all welcome...this is by far the most superior website I have come across....there was one in Biarritz last year but it demanded better linguistic ability than we had...so we gave that up. Mind you out of it came a wonderful sounding sex hotel high in the Pyrenees which we never quite got to.
Never mind, it's all very interesting so far, with very nice people marking our card
also about Cap D and I have set up a GROUP alerting folks to the formation of a club
on the Algarve later this year...I'm proposing an open club for the moment to let as many
people see what I am at,just search under "groups" for "Algarve Swingers"....
I plan to initiate this Swingers Heaven Members club with a MUNCH (I love the idea) at a location I know in Loule, near Faro and people wishing to attend this event(birthday party) should indicate that in the usual fashion, and after we can get down to the strictly private invitations...lots of security conscious players possible in the Golden Triangle.
S'nuff for now.
Sex God
I haven't actually read the responses from our friends and fellow forumites, who are generally able to, and willingly share, their pearls of wisdom.
I really don't think you should be concerned about being over 50. I feel sure that the best approach to whatever you are looking for should be led by your own wishes. So, unless you yourselves wish to avoid younger folks, just go wherever you think sounds like fun, or wherever you wish to try.
I'm 65, and generally socialize with people in their 20's and 30's. This isn't by design, it's just that these fun folks share the same preference for the particular venues.
Explore and have fun.
I really don't think you should be concerned about being over 50. I feel sure that the best approach to whatever you are looking for should be led by your own wishes. So, unless you yourselves wish to avoid younger folks, just go wherever you think sounds like fun, or wherever you wish to try.
I'm 65, and generally socialize with people in their 20's and 30's. This isn't by design, it's just that these fun folks share the same preference for the particular venues.
Explore and have fun.
With the attitude you have towards "fakes" and ageism I am not sure I want to recommend the clubs I go to for you, I like them the way they are and not sure I want to introduce people with the wrong attitude into them.
That said, I will answer honestly, Chameleons, yes it does exist, I have been there once or twice (nearer to 1000 times), oh and look, I am 59 now, (really enjoyed attending someone's 75th birthday at the club recently)
Are all the members older, of course not, clubs are for like minded people not age minded people. True the nightclub themed venues like Xstasia, Atlantis and the like do tend to attract a younger crowd but the majority of members attending are middle aged, 35-50, so some younger and some older than the average, oh me again, I attend both clubs and could not be more welcomed at either of them by the staff and the members alike.
Atlantis recently hosted my 59th birthday party and pulled out ALL the stops to make it a really special night for me.
That said, I will answer honestly, Chameleons, yes it does exist, I have been there once or twice (nearer to 1000 times), oh and look, I am 59 now, (really enjoyed attending someone's 75th birthday at the club recently)
Are all the members older, of course not, clubs are for like minded people not age minded people. True the nightclub themed venues like Xstasia, Atlantis and the like do tend to attract a younger crowd but the majority of members attending are middle aged, 35-50, so some younger and some older than the average, oh me again, I attend both clubs and could not be more welcomed at either of them by the staff and the members alike.
Atlantis recently hosted my 59th birthday party and pulled out ALL the stops to make it a really special night for me.
When you say you want to share with others but not swap, it is a bit confusing, are you saying you only want to have sex with each other in the presence of a couple doing the same ? or that you want soft swap ? with that question answered I will try to give a more productive response 
both are easy to achieve.
both are easy to achieve. and it's various options, we must be sure to do so togther. I don't want Birdie
falling behind. Both of us found your reply puzzling, as we were not offering a debate
on the various preferences that are expressed here by thousands of people, rather we were
spelling out that we are very near to knowing what we want. I often detect while reading
the forum a sense of bravado which I begin to suspect, far outtrips the actual reality of what the posters want.
At the start, I made the mistake of assuming what Birdie wants, and I was wrong, so the MUTUAL requirement takes quite a lot of frank talking for TWO people to really know that they are singing from the same hymnsheet.
We will not assume that everyone we meet here are here because they know what they want.
Our view also may change, and we respect yours, so for the moment we are looking to hook up with nice people first, with a view to sharing, and hoping they are happy to lead us to the point beyond which we will not go. Right now the safest option is to stick together and enjoy others' view of how love should be made and maybe by showing what we do to please each other, our new friends may discover something new from us too.
falling behind. Both of us found your reply puzzling, as we were not offering a debate
on the various preferences that are expressed here by thousands of people, rather we were
spelling out that we are very near to knowing what we want. I often detect while reading
the forum a sense of bravado which I begin to suspect, far outtrips the actual reality of what the posters want.
At the start, I made the mistake of assuming what Birdie wants, and I was wrong, so the MUTUAL requirement takes quite a lot of frank talking for TWO people to really know that they are singing from the same hymnsheet.
We will not assume that everyone we meet here are here because they know what they want.
Our view also may change, and we respect yours, so for the moment we are looking to hook up with nice people first, with a view to sharing, and hoping they are happy to lead us to the point beyond which we will not go. Right now the safest option is to stick together and enjoy others' view of how love should be made and maybe by showing what we do to please each other, our new friends may discover something new from us too.
Warming the Bed
Wow this post has taken some twists!
I agree so far with most of the posts, age is just a number.
Having been a regular at Chameleons it only dawned on me while reading this post that I will be 50 next year, yet never once have I felt that age while there!
I also started with having upper and lower age ranges that I would not exceed in play partners, both have gone out the window while at chams, it really is just a number!
As for the dressing down when I first went I thought of it as being like on holiday and going to the pool bar in my bikini (worked for me).
I'm, personally, not so keen on Xtasia as a single fem because despite the dressing 'normally' I find the hoards of single men off putting but they may have changed under the new management.
But in both clubs the staff are good at their jobs and make new people feel comfortable and welcome.
As for midscouple reply they are simply asking for clarity on whether you are prepared to swap partners or are more voyeuristic/exhibitionist in looking for a couple to be with you in the same room. Both scenarios can be achieved in a club but other couples you are playing with will want to know the boundaries before going with you!
So its good for you to be clear on them before meeting a couple.
Hope you find what you're looking for. xx
I agree so far with most of the posts, age is just a number.
Having been a regular at Chameleons it only dawned on me while reading this post that I will be 50 next year, yet never once have I felt that age while there!
I also started with having upper and lower age ranges that I would not exceed in play partners, both have gone out the window while at chams, it really is just a number!
As for the dressing down when I first went I thought of it as being like on holiday and going to the pool bar in my bikini (worked for me).
I'm, personally, not so keen on Xtasia as a single fem because despite the dressing 'normally' I find the hoards of single men off putting but they may have changed under the new management.
But in both clubs the staff are good at their jobs and make new people feel comfortable and welcome.
As for midscouple reply they are simply asking for clarity on whether you are prepared to swap partners or are more voyeuristic/exhibitionist in looking for a couple to be with you in the same room. Both scenarios can be achieved in a club but other couples you are playing with will want to know the boundaries before going with you!
So its good for you to be clear on them before meeting a couple.
Hope you find what you're looking for. xx
Hi Charlie and Birdie :welcome:
If you have a browse in the *Lets Meet Up* section of the forums you may well come across the socials held at Chams - thats a great event for you to socialise and maybe push your boundaries further if you feel comfortable, plus there will be organisers there to *hold your hand* and introduce you to other folk.
Its always daunting sticking your toes in the happy world of swinging for the first time, for me personally going to a social was the best way forward for me to meet peeps and work out in my own mind what i wanted out of it all
Happy swinging :swingingchair::swingingchair:
All the best, Kat xxx
If you have a browse in the *Lets Meet Up* section of the forums you may well come across the socials held at Chams - thats a great event for you to socialise and maybe push your boundaries further if you feel comfortable, plus there will be organisers there to *hold your hand* and introduce you to other folk.
Its always daunting sticking your toes in the happy world of swinging for the first time, for me personally going to a social was the best way forward for me to meet peeps and work out in my own mind what i wanted out of it all
Happy swinging :swingingchair::swingingchair:
All the best, Kat xxx
Why don't you just bite the bullet and visit Chams
It's not scary at all once you are in there, well i didn't find it scary anyway.
I went for the first time many many years ago, i was so scared and nervous before i went but i was eventually persuaded by 2 lovely men who both knew me fairly well and how i react in certain situations, and i took their word for it that i would love it (i am very shy and nervous with new sitituations and wasn't at all confident in the club swinging scene then) and i loved it straight away, i wasn't nervous about being naked under a towel in front of other people at all and my fears that i would be the oldest, fatest women there were unfounded.
I loved it so much i have been back many many times with various men friends, on my own and now with my husband (who i first met while swinging)I sugest you go and chat to the people who work there and i am sure they will guide you through the first nervous moments :)
You do as much or as little as you want so the choice is yours :)
It's not scary at all once you are in there, well i didn't find it scary anyway.
I went for the first time many many years ago, i was so scared and nervous before i went but i was eventually persuaded by 2 lovely men who both knew me fairly well and how i react in certain situations, and i took their word for it that i would love it (i am very shy and nervous with new sitituations and wasn't at all confident in the club swinging scene then) and i loved it straight away, i wasn't nervous about being naked under a towel in front of other people at all and my fears that i would be the oldest, fatest women there were unfounded.
I loved it so much i have been back many many times with various men friends, on my own and now with my husband (who i first met while swinging)I sugest you go and chat to the people who work there and i am sure they will guide you through the first nervous moments :)
You do as much or as little as you want so the choice is yours :)
