Hi All
Apologies if this is the wrong forum. Seemed the most appropriate place at time of writing.
I'm off to Brighton with my wife in a couple of weeks and we're looking for a kinky weekend. We're staying at a great hotel (Hotel Pelirocco) and want to visit the Bristol Garden Spa while we're there. We've read lots of reviews and know how it works (in theory) but this will be our first foray into anything non vanilla and to be frank it's scary as hell.
So aside from taking the first very brazen step of nudity in the spa - a big deal for us and will probably take a while to get over the shock and regain our courage - we want to experience the rest rooms upstairs.
But as we've never swung before we want to dip our toe in very gently and wonder if it's ok to simply be Voyeurs on our initial occasion before perhaps retiring to a private room. Is there an unspoken rule that says this is considered bad form? You either engage (if allowed/asked) or leave??
Simply cant imaging standing next to my wife with an erection (me that is, not the wife :-D ) while watching other couples/groups engaging in fun times without wondering whether i should move from the area or something.
Any thoughts or advice welcome. I think swinging will come in time for us and we just want to experience it slowly initially. This is so far removed from our norm but so exciting too. We're both ready for it and can't wait. Hopefully your feedback will provide a touch of calm before the excitment!
Never been to the club you mention but no, absolutely no problem having a wander round and a watch whether you end up joining in or taking yourself off to a private room for a play between you. Done it quite a few times myself in quite a few different clubs. Some rooms in some of the clubs I've been to have viewing galleries for exactly that reason, so the voyeurs can perv away while the exhibitionists put on a bit of a show. Noone will have any expectations of you, don't worry. If they do it is for them to adjust their expectations, not up to you to try and fit with them. You're there for your own reasons, to your own ends. So is everyone else! ;)
Yep, agree with your comment Steve. I do expect it to be arousing, for both of us. Just wasn't sure about the Voyeur rules at the Spa or in general. It's all new to us. I'm sure there are guidelines for everyone comfort and enjoyment but I've yet to find them.
Wasn't sure if we're supposed to ask if it's ok to watch or how far away we should stay and so on. Would be great to be on the bed next to others to see what happens (to us too) but just don't know yet.
Hi bigandyman and :welcome:
As a newbie to BGHS also, I must tell you - the most unnerving thing that you will be faced with will not be the nudity OR the playing - it will be the long ascent to the so-called "rest rooms"! The spa facilities are on the basement and the playing area is on the top floor, both areas are dimly lit (play area more so) with a very particular ambience that sucks you in. But the stairwell is not as dreamy... it's pretty steep, narrow and two flights up from the spa area, so you will have to go up it with the kind of resolve that says "I have come here for the dodgy business"!
Nudity-wise, I believe you will be surprised at how little you feel exposed - when in the tubs etc the water can cover you completely, when walking around or sitting you can use your towel to cover up. You may find others' nakedness a bit of a shock at first and that detracts from feeling embarrassed or exposed yourselves. It all eases out extremely quickly.
In the play rooms, the larger open room is at the back: to reiterate what good people have said already, if it's in plain view you can stare at the action for all you like! There is no obligation to do anything for anyone, only engage in what would please you. I wouldn't worry about you overstepping any marks as you sound quite timid and self-aware at this point (but mind the reverse - if you get caught up in the action, do remember to say "no" to things that you don't care to do). You may find a lot of action is happening behind closed or locked doors in the smaller rooms anyway (often with people outside wanking off to the sound of it). It's certainly the easy option for the terrified couple to barricade themselves in one ;) Ideally you may strike up a conversation with people you like downstairs and you will decide to venture upstairs together (safety in numbers and all that!).
Overall, your experience of the place will vary greatly depending on how busy it is on the day/time of your visit... when it's quiet things are not as extreme, rather tend towards the "civilised". I've heard from couples visiting that they were disappointed at the lack of action, which was well below expectations - though the nudist spa facilities are always a pleaser. I hope you enjoy your time in Brighton anyway!
Hi Everyone.
We promised a bit of a write up following our first visit, so here it is. Pull up a comfy chair and grab a drink - it's likely to be a long one! Probably a mix of the overall experience and our own journey, which we hope will be useful to others testing the nudist/swinging waters.
First things first, we entered the building right behind another couple who were also new to the Spa (but not new to swinging as we later found out). The fact we weren't alone in our newness immediately put us at ease and we duly booked in and entered the changing room. First thing to note - the changing room is right next to reception, through one door. And it was a single dressing room for everyone. This situation did cross our minds so it wasnt a complete surprise, but it was our first reality check. So we were here and immediately stripping off in front of strangers. Jeez. For some reason though we just undressed eagerly and wrapped the towels round us for the tour. It really wasnt a problem after a few minutes as we were all in the same boat.
The tour was good and gave us the overview we needed of the floors and how it worked. And that was it. We were set loose to enjoy the evening. It was on Saturday at this time so no singles that we noticed and probably only about 12 couples? Hard to say given the size of the place. At one point the spa on the ground floor was deserted, but we'll come back to that later... I did ask the question and it was a quiet night it seems.
So we found a quiet hot tub, lost the towels and got in. Fabulous and freeing. We both loved it. At this time we were already relaxed and getting into the right frame of mind. Being nude was fun, felt great and was very sexy. For those nervous about their age or shape - forget it. No one cares and there was a complete mix of people - young and old, slim and curvey. I didn't notice anyone looking nervous of themselves and everyone was very polite/pleasant and having a nice time. Honestly, don't worry about how you think you look/present yourself. It's not that sort of environment and you will fit right in. And to be honest, the more variety the better - who wants to see the same thing all the time?! We loved the good mix :-D
So we tried all the facilities. The steam rooms were good, the saunas fine (and empty), the pool was cold, intentionally, to help cool down. It certainly challenges the manhood being so cold and contrasting to the heat but hey, who cares. We all joked about it and agreed on the size of the issue :-) The jacuzzi was our first experience of being close up with other nudists and it took a moement to be at ease. Only a moment though and again soon felt very normal, free and sexy. We chatted with another couple from Croydon (sorry, we forgot your names - a bit of a head rush in the first visit) and got some insights to the wider world of swingers clubs and their experiences. Again, putting us at ease, thanks. You can never have enough of that when new, trust us!
We took a drink in the cafe after a while, to cool down, and there was a number of couples mooching round cooling off. We hit the spa again before deciding, like nervous kids at Christmas, to venture to the rest area... Taking the walk up those stairs was terrifying (as pointed out in a previous post - how true!!) and took forever. It was certainly a test of will with so much time to change out minds. We ventured through the rest area doors and was confronted with a small zig zag shape of a corridor with private rooms leading off it at intervals and larger rooms to the left and right. The main room was at the end. However, we must have peaked too soon as the whole place was empty!!! Intially this was an equal anti climax and huge relief and, in hindsight, was probably a good thing. Not sure how we'd have coped with a rest area full of bodies doing their thing. Might have scared us off completely.
Anyway, we wandered back to the exit of the rest area and decided at the last moment to jump into a private room. And shut the door :-) Completely cowardly but hey, we have to start somewhere in this new life. We had a great time exploring ourselves and getting quite carried away. Towels off and very aroused but for me (A) it just wasn't as big a moment as I'd hoped. J was fine and clearly enjoying it but i persuaded her we should explore again to see if others had turned up. She agreed. We composed ourselves, opened the door and wandered up to the main room. Stone me - there were three couples in there engaged in various acts. Our first moment of voyeurism and it scared the crap out of us. Instead of watching, as we'd hoped, hoping to get aroused and pleasured, we beat a hasty retreat. No idea why, just seemed the right and polite thing to do. We took the first private room just off the main one to regroup. Not quite the exciting start we'd expected to feel!!
Having calmed down and got over the shock, we stripped our towels again and started to get intimate once more. This time i insisted the door stay open (in light of the fact there were others being more open round the corner. This, i have to say, made us hugely aroused. Surprisingly so. A few couples walked passed and, i guess, saw us and this just heightened the intensity. I think we quickly realised we're not voyeurs but secret exhibitionists, or a bit of both perhaps. Either way, it was an amazingly erotic feeling.
We took our time in there but eventually pursuaded ourselves to check out the main room again. One of the couples had left so we took the end bed. J, being more nervous than I at this point, got as far against the wall as possible and I'm sure she got an imprint of the wood grain on her arse, she was that hard pressed. She was very nervous, which I can completely understand. It made me nervous too and took a small while to rise to the occasion again. But the enormity of the event for us was great. More so now we look back at it and we wish we'd been more open and relaxed, but at the time it just felt like a massive thing we were doing and oh so scary. We set expecations of how far we'd go, in so far we'd watch only and maybe just give hand relief to each other. Keeping it really simple.
In the room we enjoyed watching the couple near us (me particularly so, and the same couple from the jacuzzi) although J did find it harder to be in there. In later conversation she identified it wasn't the environment that was holding her back, it was her face being so open. She then stated she would happily have tried all sorts of positions and activities so long as her face was not on show so much (ie. on all fours with face down would have been fine). We tried a few positions and I finished in the room which simply felt amazing. We towled ourselves (it was hot in there) and left the room quietly leaving the other couple to enjoy themselves. We'd gone far far further than we'd expected. Not that far in reality but a big step for us.
On leaving the room we noticed every single private room was engaged, all with doors open and various acts taking place, and the two medium sized rooms were in use too, with one couple watching from the corridor. Again, we found this massively exciting but in our state of shock and awe we almost dashed for the exit instead of taking a slower walk to enjoy the sights. I'm still not clear on the boundaries of how much you can watch, even with a door open situation. I guess we'll just have to explore that one in time. We'd love to see more action but just cant' grasp those boundaries. We can't ask as that might put them off!!
We showered and got back into the spa and enjoyed the rest of the evening quietly. As stated earlier, the spa was now empty. And now we know why!! We tried to get back upstairs to finish J off but alas it was and that area was now off limits. How frustrating. Regrettably we had to shower and make our way out to the changing rooms. It was a nice final moment wathcing others change from nude to dressed. A reverse strip tease and rather tittilating for us.
Needless to say we've not stopped talking about it since and realised that we both like to watch others. But we absolutely love to make love knowing others can see us. Never thought that would be the case but it's suddenly switched from a mild curiosity to an abolute must in our lives. We've fantisised about all the things we'd do differently next time and how we wish we'd certain things had happened while we were there. It's made our sex life at home far more exciting as a result. We're so happy we went there. It's made a big difference to us.
So what next from this giddy high? Well, it just so happens we need to go back to Brighton this Sunday (18th) and we're going to visit again in the evening. We really can't wait and it will be interesting to see how the second visit goes. Would be happy to meet up with other couples to seek their experiences and help guide us on our journey. Not swapping partners, but just open and honest conversation and maybe a chance to watch or be watched in some manner while we explore...
So let's finish with two other random observations...
1) Although it was a nudist spa, the ONLY time we saw nude people was either in the rest area getting busy or people in the facilities. It seems that walking around the ground floor spa area itself people were towelled up. Struck me as odd for some reason. Why hide given the environ?? Same in the rest area. If people weren't in a room or active in some way, why cover up? Just didn't get that. Almost a mini disappointment.
2) We are firmly into this new world in a big way. And on further research and conversation between us we're certainly only looking at soft swinging at this stage, not to swap partners. To be in the same location as others and being so intimate with our partners is a massive turn on and we're going to explore that further. Probably slowly as we're still scared. I've also noticed that this seems to be a far quieter or limited side of the swinging community which is a shame. Unless we're missing a whole world made for soft swingers we've not seen yet. Either way we're converted and highly aroused all the time now. We need to explore.
So that was our long update. Well done if you've got this far and stayed with it. Feel free to make your own observations on our experience or ask any quetions. Happy to help out as the newbies to the scene as it seems to be a common question that pops up. No pun intended :-)
Next thing is to update our profile :-)
A & J - The new soft swingers!
Thanks for the great feedback.
As you've rightly pointed out this will be useful for all the newbies coming into the site, as we were (and still are). So many questions went through our heads and the same things were being asked by others with varying levels of feedback, depending how lazy the original questions were
So, we just jumped in feet first (followed by all the other bits) to have a go on behalf of the newbie masses :-)
We're looking forward to going back on Sunday to see how the second experience will be. Probably won't do a long update on it though. I suspect most on this site are comfortable with how it all works and will send them to sleep :-D
A & J
We were very interested to read your journey into the naturist spa scene and glad you posted your experiences.
We've been visiting spas and adult parties for about 7 years now as a couple. BGHS is a good one but it's restrictive opening hours and the avid enforcement of no playing in the wet area has curbed our enthusiasm somewhat. But it's their club and their rules.
The thing about wearing towels in the rest of the club; I think it is more a convenience thing as you have to carry your towel with you. But it is only right when there is food being served and consumed.
Many naturist clubs have an identity crisis in that the owners would baulk at the suggestion swinging went on. Yet they wouldn't stay in business without it. Total denial.
As you might already realise by now if the door is open, or there isn't a door, the couple/s are happy for you to watch as long as you want. But always ask before touching. Never assume. Always expect the same from others. Our biggest bugbear is people talking around us or outside the room. Generally it is stupid joking or mudane nonsense. Totally inappropriate.
A couple of other clubs we would recommend: Eurekas (lovely in the summer) and Paradise Spa in Dagenham. Also Kestrel Hydro (near Heathrow) which we're hearing good things about but have yet to visit. All very well run clubs but don't think any of them have "couples only" times. You might need to check if this is an issue for you.
Finally, this is a no pressure scene. As Mrs Looker observed, after we first visited spas and parties,there is a far better protocol going on than in conventional environments. Because everyone is of a like-mind and little alcohol is bring taken.
Good luck for the future!
Heard ( or read to be more accurate ) very good things about Kestrel Hydro too Lookers. Looks like a good place, def worth a visit I'd say. Perhaps if you do you could update, let us know how you found it?
Thanks for the sage advice once again.
We're off to the spa again this afternoon, hoping to get there around - 5,00pm, and have our rules and boundaries in place. Expecting it to be busier than last time and expecting our confidence to be increased likewise.
All being well and on the assumption we get the big thrill from it, it'll be our kickoff point to fomalising some of the meets we've been thinking about when the new year kicks in. Starting off with a decent set of photos on our profile (we have an offer to help with that too - Thanks C&G!).
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