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Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Neil, I fully agree 100% to everything you have said above. Its the regular members that make this site what it is, and it is those very same members which are being driven away with all the 'improvements'.
I know this is only a web site, and in the scheme of things is not that important when you look at all the other things which are going on in peoples lives, but I actually feel saddened, as though an old friend has died. I am greiving for the 'old site' and the people who came on here.
Its always nice to have new members but this has just got totally out of hand. How long ago was it that Eager Slut did a post welcoming the 25,000th member? Look at the number now, over nearly 359,000 :shock: Just how many of them are true 'swingers' and how many are chancers presuming this is a 'quick shag' site? Ok, some members want a quick shag, but that was never what swinging heaven was about, it was a way to meet and get to know like minded people. I am sorry to say that I feel that as been lost, and we are now 'members' of a quick shag site! We could stand on the street corner if thats what we wanted!
I understand that the new owners want/need to make money, but I am now feeling that this is at the expense of existing members. I sat on the fence and kept quiet when they took over and thought that I would just wait and see what changes they did make. However, I am very disapointed at the changes and feel that these changes will actually backfire on the owners and they will end up losing the very people who make this site (forums) the 'community' that it is!
R.I.P Swinging Heaven :cry:
We miss you xxx

i fully agree with everything you have said there, to me this is not just a web site its a way to keep in touch with friends, we have made some great m8s over the year or so i've been using the forum, mets loads of great people, been to munches, parties etc and i just feel that if the site goes down we will all loose touch as there is just to many friends on here to keep in touch with without a genral meeting place to chat on such as here, i just feel that all this site is about is numbers and money now and us regulars mean nothing, but i would like to point out the sites only as good as the people who use it wink
Quote by naughtynymphos1
Neil, I fully agree 100% to everything you have said above. Its the regular members that make this site what it is, and it is those very same members which are being driven away with all the 'improvements'.
I know this is only a web site, and in the scheme of things is not that important when you look at all the other things which are going on in peoples lives, but I actually feel saddened, as though an old friend has died. I am greiving for the 'old site' and the people who came on here.
Its always nice to have new members but this has just got totally out of hand. How long ago was it that Eager Slut did a post welcoming the 25,000th member? Look at the number now, over nearly 359,000 :shock: Just how many of them are true 'swingers' and how many are chancers presuming this is a 'quick shag' site? Ok, some members want a quick shag, but that was never what swinging heaven was about, it was a way to meet and get to know like minded people. I am sorry to say that I feel that as been lost, and we are now 'members' of a quick shag site! We could stand on the street corner if thats what we wanted!
I understand that the new owners want/need to make money, but I am now feeling that this is at the expense of existing members. I sat on the fence and kept quiet when they took over and thought that I would just wait and see what changes they did make. However, I am very disapointed at the changes and feel that these changes will actually backfire on the owners and they will end up losing the very people who make this site (forums) the 'community' that it is!
R.I.P Swinging Heaven :cry:
We miss you xxx

i fully agree with everything you have said there, to me this is not just a web site its a way to keep in touch with friends, we have made some great m8s over the year or so i've been using the forum, mets loads of great people, been to munches, parties etc and i just feel that if the site goes down we will all loose touch as there is just to many friends on here to keep in touch with without a genral meeting place to chat on such as here, i just feel that all this site is about is numbers and money now and us regulars mean nothing, but i would like to point out the sites only as good as the people who use it wink
NN, it aint that long ago that we were all congratulating you on 5000 posts of utter bollox..... but I take it all back cos you've just said what the rest of us - that are left- are thinking.
Well said that woman! worship :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
It is far too early for me to type a freshly worded batch of thoughts and as they (at present) remain unchanged from yesterday – so here is something I wrote earlier….
Quote by PoloLady
Darwin once said something along the lines of… “it is not the strongest nor the most intelligent of the species which survive, but the ones most adaptable to change”
Whether we can see the need for change or not – change will happen, it is a fact of life.
People may cry that the changes will bring about the death of the community. But a community is not a ‘thing’ which can be taken away by someone else. It dies only if the people within the community no longer relate to the connection, otherwise it continues but evolves and adapts. Just as in the same way some years ago swinging was considered to be a ‘couples’ only scene or lifestyle, organised and arranged through newspapers adverts, personal columns with coded messages and so on - swinging evolved.
There may be people here who no longer relate to this community as they have fulfilled a need elsewhere or even gained new status in an alternative community - so will happily announce the demise of the place they once treasured, as it no longer holds the same value. There may be others who wish to hold on to the nostalgia of a past time – all be it a recent one. The reaction of those within a community has just as great an impact on its survival as those who change the environment.
It is however worth noting that environments naturally change at a slow and subtle pace. Changes of a large scale which come about suddenly are likely to bring about the same reaction as a ‘natural disaster’ or an ‘act of God’.
Disasters and dramatic acts of God cause the native inhabitants to panic and retreat to safety. If the effects on the landscape are too great and the environment can no longer sustain the community, then the community will instinctively act to survive – maybe in pastures new!
So, OK, there has been an earthquake, followed by a flood with a bit of lightening striking here and there. Should we not let the waters subside before we declare whether the soil is infertile or not?

Call for all hands to commence bucket duty, by all means.
Co-ordinate the rescue teams and highlight were the aid is most needed, that helps.
Declaring “shit, that’s fucked then” before the transition is over is defeatist and (I sincerely hope) premature.
Quote by Darkfire
Neil, I fully agree 100% to everything you have said above. Its the regular members that make this site what it is, and it is those very same members which are being driven away with all the 'improvements'.
I know this is only a web site, and in the scheme of things is not that important when you look at all the other things which are going on in peoples lives, but I actually feel saddened, as though an old friend has died. I am greiving for the 'old site' and the people who came on here.
Its always nice to have new members but this has just got totally out of hand. How long ago was it that Eager Slut did a post welcoming the 25,000th member? Look at the number now, over nearly 359,000 :shock: Just how many of them are true 'swingers' and how many are chancers presuming this is a 'quick shag' site? Ok, some members want a quick shag, but that was never what swinging heaven was about, it was a way to meet and get to know like minded people. I am sorry to say that I feel that as been lost, and we are now 'members' of a quick shag site! We could stand on the street corner if thats what we wanted!
I understand that the new owners want/need to make money, but I am now feeling that this is at the expense of existing members. I sat on the fence and kept quiet when they took over and thought that I would just wait and see what changes they did make. However, I am very disapointed at the changes and feel that these changes will actually backfire on the owners and they will end up losing the very people who make this site (forums) the 'community' that it is!
R.I.P Swinging Heaven :cry:
We miss you xxx

i fully agree with everything you have said there, to me this is not just a web site its a way to keep in touch with friends, we have made some great m8s over the year or so i've been using the forum, mets loads of great people, been to munches, parties etc and i just feel that if the site goes down we will all loose touch as there is just to many friends on here to keep in touch with without a genral meeting place to chat on such as here, i just feel that all this site is about is numbers and money now and us regulars mean nothing, but i would like to point out the sites only as good as the people who use it wink
NN, it aint that long ago that we were all congratulating you on 5000 posts of utter bollox..... but I take it all back cos you've just said what the rest of us - that are left- are thinking.
Well said that woman! worship :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
i still talk bollox tho lol
:shock: was working away, just found my feet before i went after a break from the site, returned and found what appears to be a cyber sex room !! chat consisiting of so and so rub cum juice on ya nipples and suck em is not what the chat rooms sposed to be for is it????
Thought cam rooms used to be kept spererate, now it appears that as one male said " show more so i can finish my wank" seems to be the topic of conversation in there.
certainly prefer the old room where you could go in have a laff and arrange meets rather than listening to all the intermate details of what the guys are using their hands for confused and as you can guess, it wasnt alot of typing!
come on guys whats happened here :cry:
funny confused I entered CW1 for crewe in mine .................. left it open to view ................ and guess what .................. my location aint showing lol :doh:
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Quote by naughtynymphos1
i still talk bollox tho lol

But you do it with such style and finese that we all forgive you :P :lol: :lol:
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although we have only been using the forums for a month or so and the chat room about 3 months we have been using the site for about a year. i was finally feeling like one of the gang and we are going to the yorks and notts munch its a pity that this place as well and truly been ruined. but its the site that as been ruined not the community the community survives elsewhere and while a lot of us still us sh in the hope that thinks will improve we will not be beaten. this community is a god send to me at the moment as im going through a hard time at the min this community with its witty banter and colorful characters keep my chin up and my head in a good place. i thank you all for that and im glad the community is still and always will be a strong as ever.
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I think I must be the only one but I quite like the new site the way it is (apart from all the tossers that keep PM'ing me asking for a shag).....
I like the new look....
Although I'm a bit annoyed at having to delete all my PM's again....LoL....Oh well, it'll give me something to do on those long Winter nights...LoL.
Well done to the Admin for listening to us and helping to put things right.....I think it will become an even greater site.