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I would also say that you are walking a thin line Celtictiger...and im not being condesending in saying that. As a couple who do not look for a certain gender we could see how this post could be taken in the wrong way.
You ask the question, but you fail to put across your own personal views on the subject, so how can anyone else really make comment on what you have asked??? Are you saying that you would never consider being intimate with another man or that you are curious about an experience with another man youself?? Or you have had one and are confused about your feelings???
You need to clarify your question a little hun.
You ask the question, but you fail to put across your own personal views on the subject, so how can anyone else really make comment on what you have asked??? Are you saying that you would never consider being intimate with another man or that you are curious about an experience with another man youself?? Or you have had one and are confused about your feelings???
You need to clarify your question a little hun.
Master of Sex
racer3 im a transvestite and i know a few transexuals we are not offened by celtictigers question i think youve been a bit hard on him.
there is nothing wrong with asking a question if your not sure about a certain subject.
i had councilling when i thought i was transexual but i came to the conclusion i was not a woman trapped in a mans body,it took me several years to work that out.
a lot of transexuals are very sexy and good fucks :twisted: :twisted: so why wouldnt a straight man be interested
: after all there getting the best of both worlds.
satin
there is nothing wrong with asking a question if your not sure about a certain subject.
i had councilling when i thought i was transexual but i came to the conclusion i was not a woman trapped in a mans body,it took me several years to work that out.
a lot of transexuals are very sexy and good fucks :twisted: :twisted: so why wouldnt a straight man be interested
: after all there getting the best of both worlds.satin
let me make somethink quiet clear i have no intention of offending anybody, why would i discriminate i'm irish "the blacks of Europe" (not my words but from the Committments film..oh no by using this quote does this mean i have offended someone else? The impression i get from lots of these threads is that many people get very defensive. To me my question is valid, of course i could read up on it but thats not what i want to do, i want peoples opinions and a wide range of views...isn't that what a discussion thread is for. As far as i am concerned if i look at a thread and have nothing useful to contribute other that critisim, i will not comment.......well glad i got that of my chest
Sex God
The point is, you still haven't made your opinion clear yet you are asking for everyone else to tell you theirs. Why don't you tell us yours first, as you asked the question?
You haven't been an actual member of the forum for very long (even though you say you have been watching the site for a while) and you have managed to start a couple of very contentious threads.
You haven't been an actual member of the forum for very long (even though you say you have been watching the site for a while) and you have managed to start a couple of very contentious threads.
i'm not critisizing celtic, just saying it may offend some folk. I have made posts in the past that have caused offense where none was intended but it made me realise that some people can be very sensitive. I hasten to add that i have no special knowledge on the subject in question other than it is a lot more involved than a lot of us realise.
PS i have lots of irish friends and some coulered ones. ffs i'm even mates with a welsh bloke
PS i have lots of irish friends and some coulered ones. ffs i'm even mates with a welsh bloke
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Answer me this why are so many men attracted to transexuals, sorry I need to clarify this, why are so man straight men interested .......that would not even consider being intimate with another man?
Well, I'm not interested in transexuals myself, but for those who are... well, why not? "Straight men" aren't a homogenous group with set likes and dislikes; we're all individuals if you're sexually attracted to what you consider "transexuals" then I don't see a problem there. As for "why?", well... why do some men like big boobs? Why do some men want to be dominated? Why do some men like watersports? Why do some men like porn? I think it'll be over to the psychologists for this one...
Sex God
Well said Gurl
Bev
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Bev
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Celtic Tiger gives a clue to his sexuality in his ad, and his previous posts
http://photos.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-205835.html
I agree with Satin that you should not assume straight away that CT has any motive other than exploring sexuality and trying to learn about something that he does not understand.
I also feel strongly that before answering questions like this on the forum, it is important to find out the attitude of the questioner.
I would say this to you CT - people who come on here do not sit around waiting to answer questions to satisfy idle curiosity. They are on here doing something. If you want them to stop what they are doing, and spend time answering your question, you are expected to 'read up' about the subject first.
If you show a genuine interest in learning about new things then people are prepared to put a bit of effort into giving answers. Sitting on your arse asking questions and expecting others to put all the time and effort in is seen as sheer laziness.
The effort you have put in to this string is reflected in the answer you have - Men who fancy transexuals do so because they are sexy.
lhk
Kat
http://photos.swingingheaven.co.uk/photo-adverts/swingers-205835.html
I agree with Satin that you should not assume straight away that CT has any motive other than exploring sexuality and trying to learn about something that he does not understand.
I also feel strongly that before answering questions like this on the forum, it is important to find out the attitude of the questioner.
I would say this to you CT - people who come on here do not sit around waiting to answer questions to satisfy idle curiosity. They are on here doing something. If you want them to stop what they are doing, and spend time answering your question, you are expected to 'read up' about the subject first.
If you show a genuine interest in learning about new things then people are prepared to put a bit of effort into giving answers. Sitting on your arse asking questions and expecting others to put all the time and effort in is seen as sheer laziness.
The effort you have put in to this string is reflected in the answer you have - Men who fancy transexuals do so because they are sexy.
lhk
Kat
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I would say this to you CT - people who come on here do not sit around waiting to answer questions to satisfy idle curiosity. They are on here doing something. If you want them to stop what they are doing, and spend time answering your question, you are expected to 'read up' about the subject first.
Interesting point, but I think that it also depends on who reads the thread, their interest in the topic, and how busy they are at the time! For me, when I start a thread about something I want to know more about, be it idle curiosity, or something more. I find it so much more rewarding to hear the opinions of those I have interacted on the board and/or in real life with, for if the subject is something which feels a little `out there`, learning from the opinions of those I know can take some of that scary mystique out of it and it feels very reassuring, because you already know you are discussing it with normal people. This is how it worked for me on my Fantasy thread when I asked opinions from those who are into BDSM, and I had a great response.
I`m not afraid to admit that as far as BDSM goes, I often feel that it`s a little strange. I`m assuming it`s not, because none of the people I know who are into this scene are strange, but I struggle with the idea of wanting to receive pain, or how some of the fetish wear looks. However, I have never criticised people for wanting to partake in this, and neither have I been criticised for my ignorance.
Sometimes I ask questions face to face, sometimes I start threads, and sometimes I research, or any combination of the three, depending upon how much I am multi-tasking at the time. I do not feel that anyone of them is an indication on laziness on my part, because the results from each are so valid and rewarding in thier own right.
Given that I have still yet to encounter any criticism for this approach, I have to wonder if some of the reaction here may be due to some over-reaction due to fear of possible prejudice considering the subject Celtic Tiger was asking about?
I`m not trying to be contentious, it`s simply the impression I get.
Venusxxx
Being a transvestite and bi as well I can tell you there is a thrill of wanting sex with trans. I read somewhere that men who had anal sex with a woman could(I say could) be regarded as somewhat having homosexual it may follow that this idea of sex with transsexuals is an extention of that. On bondage for example it is the feeling of being restrained and helpless that appeals to people and having the inabitty to see or speak
Sex God
All I can say on the subject is that a cock looks fantastic in lacy knickers!!!
Sex God
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All I can say on the subject is that a cock looks fantastic in lacy knickers!!!
Absolutely fantastic.
Must say that some of the guys have better looking bums in lacy knicks too.
G x
slightly off topic kind off did anyone see the programme on television last nite on bbc1 about the police and mainly traffic cops around manchester way .
and that lorry driver who was pissed laying in the middle of the road wearing womens clothes , big burly truck driver dressed as a girl highly amusing but no yorkie bar in sight .
i wonder if he uses this website and if he does hello if you are reading this , i always thought that lorry drivers were a strange bunch all those long days and nights on the road by yourself must do weird things to you .
back on topic now as a man i am not the least bit attracted to transexuals in anyway the majority of them look silly with there burly 6ft frames and bulky legs n arms in a dress or skirt but thats just my oponion and im sure they are all nice people .
and that lorry driver who was pissed laying in the middle of the road wearing womens clothes , big burly truck driver dressed as a girl highly amusing but no yorkie bar in sight .
i wonder if he uses this website and if he does hello if you are reading this , i always thought that lorry drivers were a strange bunch all those long days and nights on the road by yourself must do weird things to you .
back on topic now as a man i am not the least bit attracted to transexuals in anyway the majority of them look silly with there burly 6ft frames and bulky legs n arms in a dress or skirt but thats just my oponion and im sure they are all nice people .
Sex God
Guy4Fun.... there's a thread about that programme on here
Can I have all of the above, please :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Seriously, I don't see any offense in CT's question, though I had to assume a lot to answer it. I assumed that he means chicks with dicks, i.e. pre-op MTFs???? Am I right? If so, some straight guys who are usually attracted to the female form or female attire like to fantasise about cocks too - chicks with dicks are a perfect kink for people like this. A lot of bi guys who basically live a straight life see trans people as the best of both worlds, or the easiest way of getting a bit of cock in their life. Having said that, my ex was bi and he liked tits and cock, but not on the same person.... he said it did his head in :? :?
Each to their own, I guess..... :?
If CT meant post op transsexuals, then they would have female genitals and all would be well in straight-world cos there'd be not man bits left at all. Unless CT really meant female to male transsexuals, then that would be a whole different ball game :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Transvestites?
Drag Queens?...in general.
Pre operative Transsexuals?
Post operative Transsexuals?
Shemales?.....I apologise for the term but it has a valid place in the list when used within a sexual enviroment..
Or Intersexed?
Can I have all of the above, please :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Seriously, I don't see any offense in CT's question, though I had to assume a lot to answer it. I assumed that he means chicks with dicks, i.e. pre-op MTFs???? Am I right? If so, some straight guys who are usually attracted to the female form or female attire like to fantasise about cocks too - chicks with dicks are a perfect kink for people like this. A lot of bi guys who basically live a straight life see trans people as the best of both worlds, or the easiest way of getting a bit of cock in their life. Having said that, my ex was bi and he liked tits and cock, but not on the same person.... he said it did his head in
:? :? Each to their own, I guess..... :?
If CT meant post op transsexuals, then they would have female genitals and all would be well in straight-world cos there'd be not man bits left at all. Unless CT really meant female to male transsexuals, then that would be a whole different ball game :shock: :shock: :shock:
t is difficult to understand all the different terminologies if you aren't familiar with them though, I will admit to being confused somewhat by all the TV/TS sorts of categories and needed them explaining to me. I do understand more now but it is still a complicated subject that is probably only really well known to people who are or have a close relationship with somebody who is a TV/TS.
Quick confession: in my naivety I thought that 'ladyboys' had a pussy tucked behind their balls :doh:
Quick confession: in my naivety I thought that 'ladyboys' had a pussy tucked behind their balls
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So should the 'generalised' question, perhaps have been worded.......................
"Why are straight men attracted to 'Transvestites' when they are not attracted to other men?"
I'm in complete agreement with Gurl except on this point - it doesn't seem consistent with what you said earlier - is it?
Couple of things - a) the question is much more complex than the original post suggests but b) the original post could mean a myriad of things, as has been pointed out, so we're guessing in the dark a bit, *but* it may well be that if you (celtictiger) understood the complexity you wouldn't ask the question, so it's a catch 22. No worries asking, but tread carefully.
I've only known two transexuals, both M-F (as friends, not partners, in case anyone wants to know) but I knew both of them both pre and post op and they were both very, very different. A point that one was very adamant about was that there were a specific group of men, in her (and pre-op, his) opinion, who were attracted to transexuals, and those men were not necessarily attracted to transvestites, which is a different ball park.
As you say there are so many combinations. My second friend would send me long (I mean *long* - ten pages at a time, regularly, emails explaining the emotional upheavals he was going through, to the point where I couldn't take it in (no pun intended).
Sexual preferences come in many, many shapes and forms. Best advice I can think of is (in the absence of more information about the question), follow your own inclinations and tolerate those of others religiously. If you don't 'fancy' someone of any sex or inclination, treat them as (if you are a conservative hetero male for instance) you would a girl who you liked but didn't happen to fancy. You will be amazed at how mind broadening it is. Learn to accept without necessarily agreeing - quantum leap :-)
Master of Sex
mq its not that complicated really,but i do understand why people get confused.
as a v quick explanation(cause its takes me ages on a keyboard)
transexual: a person m or f who feel there trapped in the wrong body.
transvestite: a person who enjoys dressing and sometimes acting like a female,but is happy being a man,tho wishes they could wear skirts etc in public without being harrased.(just trying to explain how i feel)
this is in no way a consise explanation and only how i feel and from wat ive learned speaking to other tv/ts people.
i have always said that if anyone has any questions i will be glad to try and answer them the best i can,i cant be offended because ive been a transvestite from the age of 11 and have heard every insult there is.
admitidly some comments still hurts but it gets easier with age to forget such comments.
one thing if you meet or go out with a tranny when there dressed never call them by there male name or mate etc,cause when there dressed no matter how other people see them inside and out we/they consider themselves female.
there hope that helps.
any questions please feel free to ask.
satin
ps. my female name is dee or denise
as a v quick explanation(cause its takes me ages on a keyboard)
transexual: a person m or f who feel there trapped in the wrong body.
transvestite: a person who enjoys dressing and sometimes acting like a female,but is happy being a man,tho wishes they could wear skirts etc in public without being harrased.(just trying to explain how i feel)
this is in no way a consise explanation and only how i feel and from wat ive learned speaking to other tv/ts people.
i have always said that if anyone has any questions i will be glad to try and answer them the best i can,i cant be offended because ive been a transvestite from the age of 11 and have heard every insult there is.
admitidly some comments still hurts but it gets easier with age to forget such comments.
one thing if you meet or go out with a tranny when there dressed never call them by there male name or mate etc,cause when there dressed no matter how other people see them inside and out we/they consider themselves female.
there hope that helps.
any questions please feel free to ask.
satin
ps. my female name is dee or denise
one thing if you meet or go out with a tranny when there dressed never call them by there male name or mate etc,cause when there dressed no matter how other people see them inside and out we/they consider themselves female
I remember this generating a huge amount of discussion around photo ads. - It was as complicated for a CD/TV/TS trying to decide where to advertise, as it was for someone looking for a CD/TV/TS.
Everyone has a complex sexuality, with many differences in the things that turn them on, and off. It is easy to try and pidgeon hole things which we do not understand fully. I try and avoid that by reminding myself that for many, questions of gender go well beyond sexual issues.
lhk
Kat
I have been reminded to get back to the original question:
From CT's posts, I think his original question was:
"Why are so many straight men, who would never consider having sex with another man, happy to have sex with a transexual"
The reason I orginally asked for clarification of CT's understanding of a transexual is because a post op transexual IS a woman in a womans body, so for a straight bloke there is no conflict, other than his own preconceptions. (I changed that from prejudices).
If CT thinks of anyone (male or female) who cross dresses in any way and for any reason as a transexual, then it becomes a far more wide ranging question.
lhk
Kat
From CT's posts, I think his original question was:
"Why are so many straight men, who would never consider having sex with another man, happy to have sex with a transexual"
The reason I orginally asked for clarification of CT's understanding of a transexual is because a post op transexual IS a woman in a womans body, so for a straight bloke there is no conflict, other than his own preconceptions. (I changed that from prejudices).
If CT thinks of anyone (male or female) who cross dresses in any way and for any reason as a transexual, then it becomes a far more wide ranging question.
lhk
Kat
And rather deep too. Howver i actually do not worry why i do it- I just enjoy it and what else can matterin this I am a woman trapped in a man's body is of littel bother to me. it is about enjoying what you are as long as nobody is harmed. And I consider being a bi-TV is not harming anyone.
Master of Sex
ossiealf...i think your wrong some people do take some questions that are asked the wrong way and it does upset them.
its got nothing to do with not having a life
:x :x
some questions/comments do upset me and i have a very full filling exciting life.
you need to be a bit more forgiving.
its got nothing to do with not having a life
:x :x some questions/comments do upset me and i have a very full filling exciting life.
you need to be a bit more forgiving.
Master of Sex
can i just say i think im a bit of satin and ossiealf.
