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Warning Long rant!!! Where has the real England Gone?
Ok for years now just like everyone else I have plodded along with life day after day working my balls of so the tax man can get the private plate he has always wanted on his supercharged Ferrari. Well it’s coming up to Christmas once again and I am still no better off.
Still living at home with my parents ( Ahhhh ) still driving the same car. Still walking the same path to work. Yet Mr. Jobless over the road from me is still taking from the government still sat on his arse and still counting treble digit stacks. Well bit over exaggerated but not far from the truth. I’m not having ago at people with no jobs just those who will never work and don’t want to work.
I think it’s more this country though that I hate. I mean isn’t it racist to have piggy banks now. Isn’t it racist to send our kids to school in anything to do with England ( Football) Come on government Wake up who’s F***ing country is this. Do we go to India or Pakistan and build churches in there country and tell them what they can and can’t do.
Edit: Ok im wrong on the india thing maybe its a lesson to learn facts 1st. No racist comment though im stating that we are made into looking like we are racist.
I’m not racist but it seems to me like the government wants us to be. They can put these refugees into free houses with free money free food free education, But poor my England who has been homeless for the last 5 years is still eating out the bins and walking the streets in the same clothes he had on when he was first put there.
Edit: Yup no racist comment here either
This I could go on about all day but there is no point as we all know what,s wrong but we just accept it, why? Because that’s life. Yea that’s life and where just numbers. Sad but true. Only in England though. Look at the Aussie’s for example they all enjoy life, Take people for who they are and not for what someone else says they are. They work to enjoy life not just to live.
Well I have had it with this country and its greed. Next year I have plans to move over to New Zealand and from these who knows. Just wanted peoples thought and opinions on what this country has become.
I’m a bit young but my grand parents used to remind me of when they could leave there doors open and no one would think of robbing them it just wasn’t what people did. Also children used to enjoy being young and could play safe on the streets. No the case now everyday in the news someone is Murdered, Robbed, . So what went wrong?
Edit: Someone must have thought i said black people are , robbing, murdering people.
Sorry for the long rant but I have had a shit year.
Not every member here lives in England...
Minx x x
not sure about this topic, live and let live is my policy...
I hope your new life in New Zealand works out for you, but just remember you will be the foriegner or the imigrant to the people of that country.

Ermmm, yes, you did actually.
Not only that.. i think insighting racial hatred has just been outlawed and there has been a few deported, make sure your not one of them..
My best mate who i am going to New Zeland is indian and he shares the same view as me. So this is far from being racist if thats how i sounded. It's the government and the country im mad :x :x :x Off with.
Quote by LeedsLad1981
It's the government and the country im mad :x :x :x Off with.

And guess who chose the government and owns this country? Yesssss, you !!
yes we celts stood strong and stopped the vikings and all other conqerours :boxing: duel drinkies
all except the tories that is !!!
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Do we go to India or Pakistan and build churches in there country and tell them what they can and can’t do.
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Ermmm, yes, you did actually.
You beat me to it. And the rest is about as accurate. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for.
LeedsLad, by your own admittance you've had a shit year, and some of what you have written (particularly your inferance to Law and Order) is true. But remember this site is A BRITISH site not English, so don't forget all the Welsh, Scottish, or Irish members.
Maybe the best thing to have done would've been to forget the poll and just posted the words you wrote in the steam room, that way you would not have run the risk of people ripping the shit out of what you said..........
I hope you like NZ.......... it's a great place but after the UK will possibly take some adjusting to, and do remember your nearest neighbours will be the penguins in Antarctica.
I suspect you are relatively young, why not stay here and try and make a difference?
Oh and :welcome: to the site smile
M
Quote by LeedsLad1981
Warning Long rant!!! Where has the real England Gone?
I think it’s more this country though that I hate. I mean isn’t it racist to have piggy banks now. Isn’t it racist to send our kids to school in anything to do with England ( Football) Come on government Wake up who’s F***ing country is this. Do we go to India or Pakistan and build churches in there country and tell them what they can and can’t do.
I’m not racist but it seems to me like the government wants us to be.
Look at the Aussie’s for example they all enjoy life, Take people for who they are and not for what someone else says they are. They work to enjoy life not just to live.
Well I have had it with this country and its greed. Next year I have plans to move over to New Zealand and from these who knows. Just wanted peoples thought and opinions on what this country has become.
Sorry for the long rant but I have had a shit year.

Hi,
Just a couple of points
1. The British went into more places than just India and Pakistan .. and took over !!
2. Australia has many racist problems ........ the aboriginal one is still ongoing ..... and remember the grass alway looks greener
3. I was born in Aranui, just outside Christchurch NZ ........ and u can't just go over and live there coz u want to ! U will need enough money in a bank account to prove that you can support yourself while you are there ......... u will not be able to get a card and work unless you are in a "required profession" and you have to have an open return ticket coz they wont pay to deport you !
and last but not least .......... are you sure you are not racist ?
Sorry if I sound like I’m about to put a gun to my head. It’s just I can see where this country is going. Each race is slowly being divided into there own areas. It’s just a matter of time before it all turns into one big riot. It’s going to happen it’s just a matter of when. Even the media have picked up on it. What’s the government doing to stop it? What can they do?
Yes other country’s have there problems too. One of the biggest problems in this country though is its over populated. The M1 is not the biggest NCP in the world. A 3 hour drive now takes 5. Going into the city centre is like being at a football match. Its just getting out of hand. Australia is way way bigger thant England yet we have just as much if not more people living over here.
Leedslad,
You have posted a highly charged 'rant' and have claimed to be not racist-you live on an island that composes of English people, Scottish people, Irish people and Welsh people let alone the numbers of people who have joined us from foreign shores. Yet you think our Government wants us to be racist ? You think our Government wants to turn away those people who are happy to do the 'shitty' jobs our locals won't ? Because
a) They can't be bothered?
b) They are better off not working?
I have personal experience of this so don't try and tell me I am wrong.
Yes 'we' do go to foreign countries and build churches there and Yes 'we' do go and try to impose our way of thinking onto others-just as people of a different origin do to us. Live and let live leedslad-that's life
Quote by blonde
Warning Long rant!!! Where has the real England Gone?
I think it’s more this country though that I hate. I mean isn’t it racist to have piggy banks now. Isn’t it racist to send our kids to school in anything to do with England ( Football) Come on government Wake up who’s F***ing country is this. Do we go to India or Pakistan and build churches in there country and tell them what they can and can’t do.
I’m not racist but it seems to me like the government wants us to be.
Look at the Aussie’s for example they all enjoy life, Take people for who they are and not for what someone else says they are. They work to enjoy life not just to live.
Well I have had it with this country and its greed. Next year I have plans to move over to New Zealand and from these who knows. Just wanted peoples thought and opinions on what this country has become.
Sorry for the long rant but I have had a shit year.

Hi,
Just a couple of points
1. The British went into more places than just India and Pakistan .. and took over !!
2. Australia has many racist problems ........ the aboriginal one is still ongoing ..... and remember the grass alway looks greener
3. I was born in Aranui, just outside Christchurch NZ ........ and u can't just go over and live there coz u want too ! U will need enough money in a bank account to prove that you can support yourself while you are there ......... u will not be able to get a card and work unless you are in a "required profession" and you have to have an open return ticket coz they wont pay to deport you !
and last but not least .......... are you sure you are not racist ?
Friends of ours have just come home to England after trying their luck in NZ. They had money in the bank, he was one of the "required" professions, however once down there, they were told that whilst he was a "required profession" his certificates didn't cover him to do other jobs, he's a joiner so joinery was all he could do, whereas over here he could turn his hands to most things. They weren't eligible for health insurance and so when their baby son was very badly injured in an accident they struggled to pay the fees (thousands of dollars), eventually they came home, defeated.
This was a couple who had family down there, and a job to go to etc. They had it all prepared, a house was built by him etc, but ultimately problems were so bad they had no option.
The grass may be greener on the other side of the fence but rarely is it sweeter. You're moaning about our immigration rules and yet you yourself are fleeing this country and imposing on another, whilst your intentions are good now, in 5/10 years time you may well be in need of assistance, financial supprt etc.
Most immigrants don't come to this country for a free ride ..... few rarely actually get it .....
C x
C x
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Sorry if I sound like I’m about to put a gun to my head. .

Ok, you have moaned and ranted, what are your good suggestions then?
Quote by Maia
Sorry if I sound like I’m about to put a gun to my head. .

Ok, you have moaned and ranted, what are your good suggestions then?
Make them Fat Cats at the top of the goverment live our lives. Make them work 40 hours a week and make them give us tax. Treat everyone equal. There is enough money is this country put every homeless person into a home.. Gues i just think more about what other people are going through. Just hate sitting here and watching it happed and not being able to do jack all about it.
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[ Gues i just think more about what other people are going through. Just hate sitting here and watching it happed and not being able to do jack all about it.

I'm sorry, I don't quite see how moving to NZ is going to improve the situation you have described.
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If you think Australia is the happy go lucky paradise you see on neighbours watch the movie romper stomper sometime there is a huge racial and immigrant tension problem
.The Aussies bitch about anyone not born there .

Really??? That's wierd because I never had that when I emigrated there.... I was never called a whinging pomme, I never had one Australian condem me because I was born in the UK.... I genuinely love the country and because of that I took on Australian Nationality...
The Australian's (and Kiwi's for that matter) welcome people who are happy to pitch in and try to get on... What they do object to is people who turn up in their country and bitch about everything... But then wouldn't you defend your country if a foreigner was doing the same about the UK??
Calista hun, with regard to health insurance, the people you know should have been able to get private health insurance in NZ... It's the same in Australia and I never had any problems.... Obviously if there are health problems that are already in existance then the premiums will be higher or you may not be able to get cover for that particular problem... Steve, for instance would not be able to get health insurance for anything related to his heart....
Yes there are problems with this country, and yes I am aware that the grass is not always greener on the other side but as with anything.... Life is what YOU make of it....
Shireen (Proud to be Australian)
xxx
Well moving to NZ or by what people have said about NZ i would probs try my luck in europe. This will give me a break from this big rat race we have over here. Life seems so much more relaxed abroad i know people who have tried it had loved it. They still come over here to see family but they alway go back abroad.
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Make them Fat Cats at the top of the goverment live our lives. Make them work 40 hours a week and make them give us tax. Treat everyone equal. There is enough money is this country put every homeless person into a home.. Gues i just think more about what other people are going through. Just hate sitting here and watching it happed and not being able to do jack all about it.

Ooohhhh and you only work 40 hours a week wow !!!
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If you think Australia is the happy go lucky paradise you see on neighbours watch the movie romper stomper sometime there is a huge racial and immigrant tension problem
.The Aussies bitch about anyone not born there .

Really??? That's wierd because I never had that when I emigrated there.... I was never called a whinging pomme, I never had one Australian condem me because I was born in the UK.... I genuinely love the country and because of that I took on Australian Nationality...
The Australian's (and Kiwi's for that matter) welcome people who are happy to pitch in and try to get on... What they do object to is people who turn up in their country and bitch about everything... But then wouldn't you defend your country if a foreigner was doing the same about the UK??
Calista hun, with regard to health insurance, the people you know should have been able to get private health insurance in NZ... It's the same in Australia and I never had any problems.... Obviously if there are health problems that are already in existance then the premiums will be higher or you may not be able to get cover for that particular problem... Steve, for instance would not be able to get health insurance for anything related to his heart....
Yes there are problems with this country, and yes I am aware that the grass is not always greener on the other side but as with anything.... Life is what YOU make of it....
Shireen (Proud to be Australian)
xxx
Im glad that someone can share my opinion on this or part of it. Everyone has there own opinion though. Maybe you could give me some pointers on moving abroad. I agree 100% Life is what you make it. I just hit dead ends in this country though rolleyes
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Make them Fat Cats at the top of the goverment live our lives. Make them work 40 hours a week and make them give us tax. Treat everyone equal. There is enough money is this country put every homeless person into a home.. Gues i just think more about what other people are going through. Just hate sitting here and watching it happed and not being able to do jack all about it.

Ooohhhh and you only work 40 hours a week wow !!!
Yea and i count myself lucky for that. I know how hard it must be for some people. Women more than anything. I know some women that work 50 hours a week and have children to bring up. Thats just to put a roof over there heads.
Quote by LeedsLad1981
Yes there are problems with this country, and yes I am aware that the grass is not always greener on the other side but as with anything.... Life is what YOU make of it....
Shireen (Proud to be Australian)
xxx

Im glad that someone can share my opinion on this or part of it. Everyone has there own opinion though. Maybe you could give me some pointers on moving abroad. I agree 100% Life is what you make it. I just hit dead ends in this country though rolleyes
And those last few words of Shireens are the key LL.............
Life is what you make of it......... If you go to NZ (or Ozz) with your attitude you will be one of those referred to as a whinging pom, and believe me they WILL call you that if you show the attitude you are showing us .....
Life is truly what you make it !
Would leave the attitude behind. This is just one of them i need to get this off my chest rants. I would take another country for what it is and enjoy it. Can't do that here its always pissing it down smile
Ok end of rant. This all came about when i thought "Where will i be in 10 years time"
Well i will never be able to answer that so in them 10 years im going to make the most of my life and go see the world. Sorry to anyone who i offended with this topic and i would like to state im not racist. Only people i hate are these arseholes called the british government. Never voted never will.
Leeds Lad
When you get there you can always go and have a rant on this site >>>>>>>>>

You will more than likely get the reception you have had here and with good reason
phredd
Quote by LeedsLad1981
Warning Long rant!!! Where has the real England Gone?
Ok for years now just like everyone else I have plodded along with life day after day working my balls of so the tax man can get the private plate he has always wanted on his supercharged Ferrari. Well it’s coming up to Christmas once again and I am still no better off.
Still living at home with my parents ( Ahhhh ) still driving the same car. Still walking the same path to work. Yet Mr. Jobless over the road from me is still taking from the government still sat on his arse and still counting treble digit stacks. Well bit over exaggerated but not far from the truth. I’m not having ago at people with no jobs just those who will never work and don’t want to work.
I think it’s more this country though that I hate. I mean isn’t it racist to have piggy banks now. Isn’t it racist to send our kids to school in anything to do with England ( Football) Come on government Wake up who’s F***ing country is this. Do we go to India or Pakistan and build churches in there country and tell them what they can and can’t do.
I’m not racist but it seems to me like the government wants us to be. They can put these refugees into free houses with free money free food free education, But poor my England who has been homeless for the last 5 years is still eating out the bins and walking the streets in the same clothes he had on when he was first put there.
This I could go on about all day but there is no point as we all know what,s wrong but we just accept it, why? Because that’s life. Yea that’s life and where just numbers. Sad but true. Only in England though. Look at the Aussie’s for example they all enjoy life, Take people for who they are and not for what someone else says they are. They work to enjoy life not just to live.
Well I have had it with this country and its greed. Next year I have plans to move over to New Zealand and from these who knows. Just wanted peoples thought and opinions on what this country has become.
I’m a bit young but my grand parents used to remind me of when they could leave there doors open and no one would think of robbing them it just wasn’t what people did. Also children used to enjoy being young and could play safe on the streets. No the case now everyday in the news someone is Murdered, Robbed, . So what went wrong?
Sorry for the long rant but I have had a shit year.

If you were born in 1981 as your name suggests you are far too yound to be this cynical!!
I dont like the direction in which this country is going, there are far too many policies i dont agree with, but such is life
during my 20s, i worked on building sites, and in a factory, wasnt happy with my life, but was in a rut and got on with it
i turned 30, and sat and thought about what i want, and how i would get it, i still dont have a clue, but i am now in a good job, which, when work allows, pays well (thats my doing, i work for an agency) i still know what i want, still have no idea how to get it
Because of the fact i have an american father (no laughing at the back) im sure i can try my luck stateside, but i dont want to, im an Englishman, this is where i was born and raised, and whilst id love to see the world, and what it offers, this is home, and home is where the heart is
yes, the government may impose things on us we dont like, but we have relative free speech, and dont have any of the problems others do - Iraq, Thailand (tsunami) China Wales (that was for minx's benefit, if she has read this far)
if you are as English as you like to think you are, tackle this the English way - stand and face the problem, dont run away, if you want it bad enough, you will get it, its out there, you just have to make it happen
thanks to anyone staying this long, hope i havent bored you too much
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Shireen (Proud to be Australian)
xxx

OMG !!!! we are almost sisters !!!! lol
Sam (Proud to be a Kiwi)xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx