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Apologies for a drunken late-night rant, but I'm not only pissed, but pissed off as well. Why? Because we'd had the whole weekend planned. We had a meet scheduled with a single male tonight, and another with yet another single male tomorrow evening. The latter messaged us with the excuse of a "family emergency" (I know it may be legit, but we've had this one before), and the other - the one for tonight - was simply a no-show.
Now, those of you who know Vix & I know that weekends (late Friday nights and the entirety of Saturdays) are the only times we have an opportunity to swing. Thus, to have two bail out in one weekend is a total loss. And it's not just this weekend that this has happened: On the average, a little over 80% of the guys who have responded to our ad turn out to be no-shows after a meet has been scheduled.
Is it just us? Or is this behaviour more prevalent than we'd like to believe?!
When Vix & I were discussing the issue earlier this evening, she said, "Do you think it's because of me?" I immediately replied, "No, it's probably me." I mean, first off, I'm a bloke...and I expect many of these guys are just out for a quick shag with the missus (and just give lip-service to the bi- thing). Secondly, I'm a rapidly-ageing, beardy American bloke! Then again, I can see it from Vix' perspective as well: Is she too aggressive for most guys' tastes? Are people really frightened of her?!
I don't know, but I do find the whole situation rather depressing. We take our swinging seriously, and expect a commitment for a meet to be just that - a commitment. Sadly, this has not been the case.
I'm not bashing single males here. They have a hard enough time as it is. I was reading through the forums earlier this evening, and found a thread posted by one who was complaining that they weren't getting any interest. Apart from a handful of thoughtful replies, everyone else was merely taking the piss out of him and meandering dramatically off topic. Definitely the wrong message to someone who's sincerely trying to get a foothold on the scene. But, alas, that's another topic for another time.
So, any suggestions? Do we really put prospective swinging partners off that much?! I need to know...
Cheers,
~Reese! surprised
P.S. ...and the really depressing thing is that both of the blokes for this weekend had met up with us before, and had subsequently expressed an interest in meeting up with us again.
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Apologies for a drunken late-night rant, but I'm not only pissed, but pissed off as well. Why? Because we'd had the whole weekend planned. We had a meet scheduled with a single male tonight, and another with yet another single male tomorrow evening. The latter messaged us with the excuse of a "family emergency" (I know it may be legit, but we've had this one before), and the other - the one for tonight - was simply a no-show.
Now, those of you who know Vix & I know that weekends (late Friday nights and the entirety of Saturdays) are the only times we have an opportunity to swing. Thus, to have two bail out in one weekend is a total loss. And it's not just this weekend that this has happened: On the average, a little over 80% of the guys who have responded to our ad turn out to be no-shows after a meet has been scheduled.
Is it just us? Or is this behaviour more prevalent than we'd like to believe?!
When Vix & I were discussing the issue earlier this evening, she said, "Do you think it's because of me?" I immediately replied, "No, it's probably me." I mean, first off, I'm a bloke...and I expect many of these guys are just out for a quick shag with the missus (and just give lip-service to the bi- thing). Secondly, I'm a rapidly-ageing, beardy American bloke! Then again, I can see it from Vix' perspective as well: Is she too aggressive for most guys' tastes? Are people really frightened of her?!
I don't know, but I do find the whole situation rather depressing. We take our swinging seriously, and expect a commitment for a meet to be just that - a commitment. Sadly, this has not been the case.
I'm not bashing single males here. They have a hard enough time as it is. I was reading through the forums earlier this evening, and found a thread posted by one who was complaining that they weren't getting any interest. Apart from a handful of thoughtful replies, everyone else was merely taking the piss out of him and meandering dramatically off topic. Definitely the wrong message to someone who's sincerely trying to get a foothold on the scene. But, alas, that's another topic for another time.
So, any suggestions? Do we really put prospective swinging partners off that much?! I need to know...
Cheers,
~Reese! surprised
P.S. ...and the really depressing thing is that both of the blokes for this weekend had met up with us before, and had subsequently expressed an interest in meeting up with us again.

happens to us all...cples let singles down..singles let singles down, singles let cples down....etc ...etc ....its shit..but....u r experienced swingers, u know it happens..i am always told to stop winging and move on,,.................but yes it pisses u off.........................but there is nothin u can do about it...sorry....cant offer u an ounce of support or suggestions..except..u love swinging and there is more good than bad to it ....xxxxx
RWL
xx
ps ..i put an advert up for a meet this weekend and got a very surprising and very nice response..so .......it all goes to show....swinging can be fun and.. go according to plan...
RWL
xx
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Now, those of you who know Vix & I know that weekends (late Friday nights and the entirety of Saturdays) are the only times we have an opportunity to swing. Thus, to have two bail out in one weekend is a total loss.
...Secondly, I'm a rapidly-ageing, beardy American bloke! Then again, I can see it from Vix' perspective as well: Is she too aggressive for most guys' tastes? Are people really frightened of her?!
... We take our swinging seriously, and expect a commitment for a meet to be just that - a commitment. Sadly, this has not been the case.
So, any suggestions? Do we really put prospective swinging partners off that much?! I need to know...
Cheers,
~Reese! surprised

At 4am, the best I can come up with is a direct Maybe it's that expectation of committment that's the problem?? You are both confident people and many might find that intimidating - be it either (a) approaching you in the first place and (b) being able to say 'actually, I've changed my mind, sorry'
dunno
although when you said
P.S. ...and the really depressing thing is that both of the blokes for this weekend had met up with us before, and had subsequently expressed an interest in meeting up with us again
it kinda blew my theory out of the water - or did it?
From my own experience I am aware that 'straightupness' , confidence and often experience, scares the shit out of some folk here. Some find the honesty refreshing, others will (and do) run for the hills because there's always a chance you'll say exactly what you think and that might include rejection or telling him he's not 'doing it right', ya know? cool
Vix n Reese
IMO (for what it is worth) there is nothing wrong with either of you.
It is just the 'others' who make arragements and t hen change then, leaving you with nothing to do.
BTW Darkfire what you doing up at :shock:
perhaps they like to think they big
and then find it`s only normal
we have met some off here
as u no some let us down
get out in the sun shame u r to far for us
xxx biggrin
Hi
Believe me theres nothing wrong with thw two of you.
When we get let down and all we do.....its a downfall and gets you thinking is it me
Well ill tell you its not
Just say to yourselfs its there loss which it is
It happens hunni but for many different reasons. I think a lot of the time is they've bottled it through their own nerves rather than not wanting to meet you. I've had one or two meets cancelled for various reasons and while it's very disappointing, I refuse to think it was my fault. Chalk it up to experience and forget about it. Plenty more willing partners where they came from :thumbup:
Whats wrong with YOU?
As far as I've ever gathered you as a couple both represent everything thats good about swinging,you are always frank and honest about your desires and what you can give back to others.
Plans just go wrong sometimes though I must say anybody lucky enough to be invited to play with you both would surely have to have a VERY good reason to do a no show to what would promise to be a really beautiful swinging experience with one of the most generous and open minded couples on the scene.
...and you sound like a lovely genuine couple too.
It's probably a mix of good reasons and cold feet (I certainly couldn't match Reece in the cock stakes!). But don't be disheartened. Like everything else in life, the things that are really worthwhile and rewarding take a bit of effort.
Anyway, if I'll let you know when I'm in the area. If ever invited then, what fool would pass up a few hours in heaven?
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Whats wrong with YOU?
As far as I've ever gathered you as a couple both represent everything thats good about swinging,you are always frank and honest about your desires and what you can give back to others.
Plans just go wrong sometimes though I must say anybody lucky enough to be invited to play with you both would surely have to have a VERY good reason to do a no show to what would promise to be a really beautiful swinging experience with one of the most generous and open minded couples on the scene.

What a lovely reply - totally seconded :P
Sorry for my 'no advice' type reply but you guys REALLY don't need any... and I for one am not even going to try and teach our big-cocked American daddy and lovely English wife to suck cocks :rascal:
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rwl did you have free kfc vouchers again lol
vod xx

well thats what he told me! :P
Well I'm a newbie on here so I don't know any of you guys - of either sex! I haven't met anyone through SH (yet!), and I guess it's going to be a bit nerve-wracking when I finally do.
But ... there's NO excuse whatsoever for a no-show without some kind of explanation, ideally genuine, and preferably early enough to allow you to make other plans.
There are a couple of little things called respect and courtesy, and I really think they're quite important.
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rwl did you have free kfc vouchers again lol
vod xx

well thats what he told me! :P
Shhhhhh dont give my secrets away!!!!!!!!
RWL
xx
As Bloke said I wouldn't dream of offering advice to you two.
To the no show single guys - big mistake. You've missed out on a wonderful meet with two very wonderful, sexy people.
Well I'm a newbie on here so I don't know any of you guys - of either sex! I haven't met anyone through SH (yet!), and I guess it's going to be a bit nerve-wracking when I finally do.
But ... there's NO excuse whatsoever for a no-show without some kind of explanation, ideally genuine, and preferably early enough to allow you to make other plans.
There are a couple of little things called respect and courtesy, and I really think they're quite important.
Nothing whatsoever wrong with either of you - it's their loss, not yours.
i'mm gonna try and make this a small reply as i could write pages on this subject, but i won't. firstly it's natural to look at ones selve and ask that question is it us, answer NO after all the people who wanted to meet you have presumably seen pics chatted online and also spoke on phone etc so everyone should have a general feeling of how the meet should go with likes / dislikes etc.
so to keep this short i know its frustrating when you take swinging as serious as some of us do on here, when you've "saved" a part of your valuable time for others to join you only to be stood up starts you to think shall we give up on thing is change your game plan like us.
we won't plan too far in advance as we won't allow someone to "have hold "of our time only to be let down at last minute also we always have plan a b & c, ie if we're arranging for a meet at a location we always look for a swingers club close by so if the peeps are not there we have not had a wasted trip etc.
we can proudly say in 5 years of serious swinging we only ever let 1 guy down and when we eventually met him he accepted he was 50% to blame anyway.
Unforunately it happens to us all, and it's such a let down when it does happen.
I'm a very cautious character anyways, so i normally met my victims at parties and socials. I never swing on first nor second introductions (unless i'm in a club!) and i always listen to gossip. When another cpl, or person can vouch for someone, i feel a lot safer, plus i get less people letting me down.
Maybe you wish to try this out!
Thanks, guys, for your support. Both Vix & I are still rather pished from last night's marathon session, but we're in better spirits today (wait, have I made a pun?!).
Perhaps we've just been lucky in the past and are just going through an off-time. Perhaps, judging by the large number of replies we've been getting to our ad, there's more quantity than quality out there nowadays. Perhaps our confidence and experience gets misinterpreted as expectation, thus scaring folks off at the last minute.
Of course, we always engage potential partners in extensive dialogue for at least a week before we'll consider meeting up, just so we know where everyone's coming from (as it were). Still don't know what the answer is, but that won't keep us from trying again (and again, and again).
In any case, we're about to head out to the pub, watch the footie and top up our blood alcohol levels...
Cheers,
~Reese! surprised
P.S. to cockslut: ...having plans A, B & C sounds like a great idea! However, wouldn't you be worried about more than one turning up? Hmm, could have it's benefits, I suppose. ;) With that in mind, I'm in the process of lining up a "Plan B" bloke for tonight - will see how it works out!
Glad you're both feeling better in time for the footie but your experience sounded only too familiar to Rosy and I. We've almost had enough of guys who change their mind at the last minute and either don't show up or send some cheesy "my mother is in intensive care" type excuse. It's pathetic.
The only reason we haven't entirely lost heart is that we have met a few fantastic partners here who don't have this attitude and don't waste our time. The 6 million dollar question is how to distinguish the timewasting pea-brains from the genuine guys ...
Now, for the football ...
Vix and Recce
Any chance of you moving this way at bit???
:P
Well fer a start - there's absolutely nothing wrong with you two - quite the contrary!
It's an inevitable consequence of the process and sometimes you can just get very unlucky - although some would say that to get two lined up in the first place ain't bad!
I think it does depend sometimes on how well you know the person. As it says on me profile in another place I will only consider it with people I have met and that means people who I feel I can rely on as well. That said it can still all go tits up late in the day.
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Unforunately it happens to us all, and it's such a let down when it does happen.
I'm a very cautious character anyways, so i normally met my victims at parties and socials. I never swing on first nor second introductions (unless i'm in a club!) and i always listen to gossip. When another cpl, or person can vouch for someone, i feel a lot safer, plus i get less people letting me down.
Maybe you wish to try this out!

Your sooo smooth xxx lol
i feel the pain guys, i have had numorous women string me along with ping png emails and when it comes to it wont make any contact by phone they say oh yeah lets meet up and then go quiet when i ask where at.
90% timewasters on here i think.
Nothing that a damn good rogering wouldnt put right :-)
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Nothing that a damn good rogering wouldnt put right :-)

lol
Rix & Reese kiss to both.
Sod all wrong with you peeps, it's the others xxxx
Just a pitty Glaston was not on otherwise you may have had a coffee ?? visit
Phredd :love:
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Vix and Recce
Any chance of you moving this way at bit???
:P

Sarah~
Nah. We're really attached to our 16th C. church house. Prolly gonna die here, as it goes. Any chance of all of you moving to the SW?
~Reese! surprised
P.S. "Plan B" was a no show tonight as well, albeit with an excuse (could only spend an hour - tops - with us). It really is us, innit?
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Vix and Recce
Any chance of you moving this way at bit???
:P

Sarah~
Nah. We're really attached to our 16th C. church house. Prolly gonna die here, as it goes. Any chance of all of you moving to the SW?
~Reese! surprised
P.S. "Plan B" was a no show tonight as well, albeit with an excuse (could only spend an hour - tops - with us). It really is us, innit?
It really ISN'T innit! wink
Having met you guys albeit only socialy
Reese whats not to like about you mate
vIx worship think you know my thoughts about you kiss
your both great
must say that "family issues" does seem to be the standard get out clause nowadays