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do you think we actually are born with a swinging gene ?
or is this a nautal progression from getting bored with monogomous relationships ?
i hold with the theory we are born with something that compels us to do it in the same way that smokers ,drinkers and gamblers have a compulsive nature in the things that they do
what do you think ?
Quote by SXBOY
do you think we actually are born with a swinging gene ?
or is this a nautal progression from getting bored with monogomous relationships ?
i hold with the theory we are born with something that compels us to do it in the same way that smokers ,drinkers and gamblers have a compulsive nature in the things that they do
what do you think ?

not sure i agree
most peole do things because they see other doing it and want to try it out
then if they like it they keep going
I dont think its anything to do with nature
i do agree we have things we are born with but not
smoking and getting drunk, gambling or being swingers
There is NOTHING in the human nature which compels us to smoke or drink or gamble as none of those three things are 'natural'. We choose to smoke. We choose to drink. We choose to gamble. An addictive nature is something different - it's when a person is unable to stop themselves doing something because of the addiction. I have never smoked. I do drink but don't have an addictive nature so am not addicted to drink the way an alcholic would be.
Swinging - just fun!
:P
Quote by SXBOY
do you think we actually are born with a swinging gene ?

Yes, I think people can be born with a genetic predilection towards swinging and blue movies. They are called swinging blue genes.
rolleyes
I do not think that there is a swinging gene as such, and I suppose it also depends on the definition of "swinging" and how far people want to go and what they want to do.
However, if you look at chimps, apes etc. they do not have monogomous relationships so maybe it could be argued that the monogomous state is something that society/religion has decreed. There are those though that would argue that we have developed monogomous relationships because humans are able to sustain them.
I think that there is a natural curiosity look at other people and imagining having sex with them and it is then a short step to actually living out the fantasy.
McC
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There is NOTHING in the human nature which compels us to smoke or drink or gamble as none of those three things are 'natural'. We choose to smoke. We choose to drink. We choose to gamble. An addictive nature is something different - it's when a person is unable to stop themselves doing something because of the addiction. I have never smoked. I do drink but don't have an addictive nature so am not addicted to drink the way an alcholic would be.
Swinging - just fun!
:P

sorry jags ,,on reflection it not come across how i meant it to
perhaps the wording should be are we driven to do these things by the way that we are ? or is it a random thing
this was brought up in a conversation this morning at work where 3 in bed could possible be the work of the devil ( accounts department ) bloody excellent ( production)
Quote by MikeNorth
Yes, I think people can be born with a genetic predilection towards swinging and blue movies. They are called swinging blue genes.
rolleyes

Sorry Mike you have confused me.
Would that be straight leg, anti fit, anti crease or what? And if you tell me bell bottoms, well...............
:roll:
a slightly off at an angle hi-jack in motion
Quote by MikeNorth
Yes, I think people can be born with a genetic predilection towards swinging and blue movies. They are called swinging blue genes.
rolleyes

FOR GOODNESS SAKE !!!!!................... I've got the hippy hippy shake :grin:
I believe that humans are not naturally monogamous.
We (a lot of the species) have been conditioned and it is recieved behaviour.
Another big chunk of the species are not monogamous, or at least weren't till so-called civilization came along and put them right.
If we were naturally monogamous, then we would not all, whether swingers or Priests, take a sly look at what's around us, every day, would we?
Adam and Eve were, arguably, the first swingers so in fact we've (swingers) been around longer than the straights!
:bounce: :bounce:
we completely agree with vix on this.
I think that it seems to be something that highly sexed people like us do. Most of my friends would be horrified at the idea of swinging , but they are the same friends who don't seem to need a lot of sex.
I think that the more sex you want, and the more sex you have, the more you want to try new things and push the limits hump
Quote by angelnn66
I think that the more sex you want, and the more sex you have, the more you want to try new things and push the limits hump

I think it's a case of the more sex you have the more you want. :bounce: :bounce:
New is always fun too!
wink
:rascal: :rascal:
Swingers' Sydrome?
Well I hope not!! Cos I cant imagine my parents started giving this to me!!
I am first generation of swinging, I think(!) rolleyes
lol
Quote by Vix
I believe that humans are not naturally monogamous.
We (a lot of the species) have been conditioned and it is recieved behaviour.

Oh I have had way too few drinks and fags to get into the debate on 'nature V's social conditioning' but I'll bet that later on I will have one or two thoughts on the matter (in between shags that is).
And no, I don't believe I have an addictive personality lol
The question presupposes that monogamy is the “natural” human state, when in fact history quite clearly shows that it is not.
The singular bond between a given couple only evolved during the more stabilised period of human existence, i.e when we left our nomadic tendencies and became settlers, and turned from our natural state of hunter, gatherer to the more secure regions of farming and husbandry.
Arguably this could be said to stem from the fact that previously, procreation was the first and foremost criteria of any relationship, which of course had to include a process of natural selection, survival of the strongest gene etc. so it would have been quite common for the female to mate with several males in any given season, and of course for the male to “sow his seed” as widely as possible to ensure the continuation of his bloodline.
Sorry, all sounds very clinical and un-sexy, but it does shed a new light on “ I’m the king of the SWINGERS “
imho lol
Quote by Ricci79
Swingers' Sydrome?
Well I hope not!! Cos I cant imagine my parents started giving this to me!!
I am first generation of swinging, I think(!) rolleyes
lol

NO NO NO NO NO ------ That's just wrong!!!!!! I've gone all goose-pimply just thinking about my parents 'doing' it with other people :scared: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek:
Nah i don't think there's such thing as a swingers gene, its just sometghing i do when it takes my fancy, i find we go thro fads, someone times we go months having meets, going to clubs and parties two and three times a week, then we can go months without do anything at all, i find if you meet to regular it becomes the norm and that becomes boring, i went thro a phase where i was meeting so regular i really was getting bored with it and while i'd be getting ready i would be thinking "i really can't be arsed to go out tonight" confused so now when that happens i take time out and leave it a few months till i fancy meeting again.
Quote by Vix
I believe that humans are not naturally monogamous.
We (a lot of the species) have been conditioned and it is recieved behaviour.
Another big chunk of the species are not monogamous, or at least weren't till so-called civilization came along and put them right.
If we were naturally monogamous, then we would not all, whether swingers or Priests, take a sly look at what's around us, every day, would we?

I totally agree with Vix on this one - there are some species who mate for life but the human race is not one - based on the evidence. It is clear that there are some people who for whatever reasons have lower or higher sex drives. Across all cultures there has been a tendency to one to promote monogamy.... Sex is a primal need but it is stronger in some that others .. its enables the species to grow .... naturally those wilh a higher sex drive reproduce more than other.... I don't think its gene but there could be an element to it...whatever.... practise is always beter than theory .... but its an interesting thread..... why do some give up whilst others dont....Blake
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Nah i don't think there's such thing as a swingers gene, its just sometghing i do when it takes my fancy, i find we go thro fads, someone times we go months having meets, going to clubs and parties two and three times a week, then we can go months without do anything at all, i find if you meet to regular it becomes the norm and that becomes boring, i went thro a phase where i was meeting so regular i really was getting bored with it and while i'd be getting ready i would be thinking "i really can't be arsed to go out tonight" confused so now when that happens i take time out and leave it a few months till i fancy meeting again.

For what it's worth I think NN has got it right. It's not a gene, it's not about having a high sex drive (I know plenty of non-swingers with extremely high sex drives that have no interest in swinging) It's about The fun, excitement, newness of sex with someone other than your regular partner, especially when your partner is involved. Or to put it another way doing something different.
If we swung everytime we fancied sex it would soon lose it's appeal and that would be that. For us, it's like a fine wine or good Brandy, enjoy it occassionally and savour it.
M
Wanting to have sex is the most natural thing in the is what we are conditioned for, just as we are conditioned to eat. Over the millenia the influence of society has laid down mores in order to protect societies. In order to have a stable society it was found that children needed a stable base. Also men are natuturally territorial , thus the exclusivity of a woman, (or women as in some societies ) became a symbol of that territorial power. Each individual could also have his own territory as wives became chattels. As religions became a dominant factor, these sociological unions were promoted. Christian societies gradually freed the female from being a chattel, but the payback was the promotion of the monogomous couple and the suppression of the natural sex drive to a means of reproduction, albeit a loving one. For centuries the most educated people in society were the clerics, preaching to the lesser educated masses. In the twentieth century the masses became eductaed, and began to challenge the Christian mores. Thus throughout the twentieth century we saw the gradual breakdownof these doctrines of sex. Sex before marriage, contraception, abortion, teenage sex. homosexuality all became accepted as normal. Society has begun to reclaim its sexual intellect. The main problem now however is not the Church, albeit it still has a strong voice over many, but the media, who on the pretext of liberalism, lavish in hypcrisy and sleaze, perpetuating the idea that sex is actually wrong by the production of salacious exposes to sell papers. As the 21st century progresses more and more people are experimenting with their sexuality, but on a more educated basis Sites like this one demonstrate that there are many many people who can have a loving and faithful relationship, but also a sexually open one. For every open liberated couple in here, there are 10 others on the verge of swinging, being held back by guilt, ignorance or the fact that one party is not interested. My prediction is that before 2025 swinging will be considerd as normal as sex out of marriage is considered today. ....just my opinion!
Quote by MikeNorth
do you think we actually are born with a swinging gene ?

Yes, I think people can be born with a genetic predilection towards swinging and blue movies. They are called swinging blue genes.
rolleyes
:laughabove: you're showing your age now Mike!
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Wanting to have sex is the most natural thing in the is what we are conditioned for, just as we are conditioned to eat. Over the millenia the influence of society has laid down mores in order to protect societies. In order to have a stable society it was found that children needed a stable base. Also men are natuturally territorial , thus the exclusivity of a woman, (or women as in some societies ) became a symbol of that territorial power. Each individual could also have his own territory as wives became chattels. As religions became a dominant factor, these sociological unions were promoted. Christian societies gradually freed the female from being a chattel, but the payback was the promotion of the monogomous couple and the suppression of the natural sex drive to a means of reproduction, albeit a loving one. For centuries the most educated people in society were the clerics, preaching to the lesser educated masses. In the twentieth century the masses became eductaed, and began to challenge the Christian mores. Thus throughout the twentieth century we saw the gradual breakdownof these doctrines of sex. Sex before marriage, contraception, abortion, teenage sex. homosexuality all became accepted as normal. Society has begun to reclaim its sexual intellect. The main problem now however is not the Church, albeit it still has a strong voice over many, but the media, who on the pretext of liberalism, lavish in hypcrisy and sleaze, perpetuating the idea that sex is actually wrong by the production of salacious exposes to sell papers. As the 21st century progresses more and more people are experimenting with their sexuality, but on a more educated basis Sites like this one demonstrate that there are many many people who can have a loving and faithful relationship, but also a sexually open one. For every open liberated couple in here, there are 10 others on the verge of swinging, being held back by guilt, ignorance or the fact that one party is not interested. My prediction is that before 2025 swinging will be considerd as normal as sex out of marriage is considered today. ....just my opinion!

bloody hell fire...er what he said! :jagsatwork: :thumbup:
I recall having a dream when I was about 15 years old - before I was sexually active. It was about being in a room with 3 guys and I was being fucked in turn over a sofa by all of them. To this day I don't know where that came from. My first real sexual encounter was a bit traumatic and nothing like my dream. Over the years and particularly now, I think my leaning towards swinging possibly stems from that fantasy. I love meeting fellas who are respectful and sexy and know the protocol, as it were.