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Why is Elsewhere so much better than SH?

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I am a bit confused. I joined swinging heaven at the same time as Fabswingers. Four weeks ago.
Score so far:
Elsewhere: 3 couples, 3 singles already met and talking to another 3 couples and 2 singles to arrange to meet. I have 5 verifications to prove I am real, not a timewaster and will turn up.
Swinging Heaven: 0 meets, most messages ignored totally, 2 couples responded but still waiting for a call to arrange meet.
I have the same profile, pictures etc
Just a bit gutted a paid for a year on SH.
Anyone else found the same? Must just be different type of people on here?
Quote by BigAsh41
I am a bit confused. I joined swinging heaven at the same time as elsewhere. Four weeks ago.
Score so far:
elsewhere: 3 couples, 3 singles already met and talking to another 3 couples and 2 singles to arrange to meet. I have 5 verifications to prove I am real, not a timewaster and will turn up.
Swinging Heaven: 0 meets, most messages ignored totally, 2 couples responded but still waiting for a call to arrange meet.
I have the same profile, pictures etc
Just a bit gutted a paid for a year on SH.
Anyone else found the same? Must just be different type of people on here?

Nope, not had that problem. But then, I have a little patience.
I find this is more of a "swinging" site and i've met probably hundreds ... the other site is more of a "no strings sex" site i feel.
I prefer here but it's how swinging works for you.
For me i prefer the social side and thats why i've met hundreds ... but not played with many .. but have probably snogged most of them !
Has been said before, you get out of this site what you put in
I've seen the site evolve over the years and it stopped serving it's purpose for me on the sex side. I tend to view this place as a more social thing really.
My guess is that new members don't really hang about long enough and obviously when you're paying for something, you want results. The other place is free so no harm in sticking around indefinitely. The hardcore base membership on here, I imagine, is made up of long-standing members and that kind of clique is very hard for anyone to get into.
Patience is a virtue, I s'pose.
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I have the same profile, pictures etc

Well, maybe it would be more accurate to say you have similar profiles on the two sites. But they are not the same.
The text of your profile is different
You have a different number of photo's available
And you appear to get older when you log in here to the other site!
It might seem shallow to some, but we personally would be put off if we noticed the age difference betwixt the two. It would call us to question which is correct and furthermore what else may not be correct on your profile.
But, putting that aside for the minute. The other site has a chatroom that is geographically based in your area. This site doesn't. I'm guessing that if you use the chatrooms at all then you will use the South East chatroom on the other site and be chatting with people closer to you and therefore easier to arrange meets with. However on this site you would probably end up in a non geographic room and therefore the people you are sharing the room with could be all over the UK and less likely to meet on that basis alone.
To improve your chances on this site why not place an advert? Lets face it there are over 1 million single male profiles here, so surely you want to do your best to stand out from the crowd?
We have had nothing but timewasters on the other site, yes we have had our fair share here too, but at least we have arranged meets from this site. We have never had a meet from that site. Maybe it's a case of horses for courses.
Quote by BigAsh41
I am a bit confused. I joined swinging heaven at the same time as elsewhere. Four weeks ago.
Score so far:
elsewhere: 3 couples, 3 singles already met and talking to another 3 couples and 2 singles to arrange to meet. I have 5 verifications to prove I am real, not a timewaster and will turn up.
Swinging Heaven: 0 meets, most messages ignored totally, 2 couples responded but still waiting for a call to arrange meet.
I have the same profile, pictures etc
Just a bit gutted a paid for a year on SH.
Anyone else found the same? Must just be different type of people on here?

Maybe the people elsewhere, aren't as fussy? dunno
I spoke to several members last night ,both cpls and singles, and they all basically said the same as the OP...
I was, briefly, a member of another site.
Every time I logged in I was harassed by guys wanting to meet. I use the word harassed advisedly. I was called a time waster, and worse, for not agreeing to meet a guy after he had sent me five messages within half an hour of me being logged on. At the time, I had no advert and was actually still filling out my profile. rolleyes
I met one guy. It was an ok meet. I closed my profile after finding the messages constantly clogging up my inbox to actually be off putting.
I'm not for a minute thinking my profile was anything special, I think it was simply that it is more of quick, NSA type of site. Now, as a single gal, I'm not claiming I'm a "proper" swinger (let's not get into that debate! wink) but I do prefer to at least feel like I'm more than a piece of meat.
But hey, everyone finds what suits I guess. :thumbup:
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For me i prefer the social side and thats why i've met hundreds ... but not played with many .. but have probably snogged most of them !
sad
Quote by noladreams
I was, briefly, a member of another site.
Every time I logged in I was harassed by guys wanting to meet. I use the word harassed advisedly. I was called a time waster, and worse, for not agreeing to meet a guy after he had sent me five messages within half an hour of me being logged on. At the time, I had no advert and was actually still filling out my profile. rolleyes

Yep and most of them that applied were married 'single' men playing away which my profile stated I wasn't interested in. Only had a drink with someone from there and it went badly wrong. I thought a quick drink to see if we got on meant a quick drink, I was mistaken :roll:
Is it better on other sites or just different? How do you judge what is a good site, do you go for quantity, like the OP appears to do or quality. Going by some of the comments from the ladies the other site doesn't offer much in the way of quality so SH wins hands down on that score.
I suppose it depends what you want out of a site. We are on both.
The chat rooms there are shit, the forum is shit, we get inundated with messages which gets a bit much but we have been able to arrange a lot more meets and attend lots more parties from that site. .
However, It is much friendlier here. We have a few friends from there but no one who I would introduce my kids/parents to! Through socials, etc from here we have made friends for life, some we have played with, some we haven't and may never.
What amazes me is the amount of messages we get on the other site from people we have chatted to on here saying words to the effect of : "hi it's xxxx from SH. Fancy meeting up sometime?". Why they don't message on here for a meet if this is where they know us from is a total mystery to me. It's almost like some people think that isn't the done thing on here??
Anyhooooo ... I suppose what I'm trying to say is that I'm happy here.
we also belong to another site. being honest the chatrooms here can be rather clicky. we have had a couple of meets from here, but had better success from the other site.
luckily we can afford to belong to both sites but if money was tight and i had to make a choice, i would probably go with the other site. i must admit that the members numbers that are posted on here are missleading to say the least. there may well have been that many over many years but probably going by the chat room numbers and general asking around, probably 99% of those numbers posted on the home page have not used this site for years.
maybe some peeple before joining think with one and a half million members, finding swinging peeple would be easy. it would be a heck of a lot easier if those numbers were indeed correct. but that aside we like the layout of this site and going by peeple we have met who have been members for a very long time on here, the site in general is less busy than it was in the past.
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and going by peeple we have met who have been members for a very long time on here, the site in general is less busy than it was in the past.

Hmmmm... I'm not sure it is.
The forum is quieter. The chatrooms seem as busy as they have been in the six years I've been here, although some of the regional rooms seem to have disappeared. Mind you, if people opened them regularly they would probably be back. In terms of meeting folk, I've probably steadily met the same numbers of people per year as I always have. (My meets come in phases due to work, but averaged across a year they are pretty steady.) Fewer munches than in the halcyon 'old days' maybe but lots more socials and club events.
dunno Guess it just depends what people are looking for.
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You can't seriously expect to judge a years subscription one month in?
I wouldn't want to be on any other site, here works on all levels.

:cheers: I'll drink to that!
wished I'd never read this post.....spent the whole fekin weekend googlin' "elsewhere" and still couldn't find a shag.....what's an old perv got to do?
The OP is correct. This place is nothing like what it used to be just a few years ago and my prediction is that the new owners must realise that traffic is down and will have to act.
Forum activity - sluggish
Our advert responses - down so much it is hardly worth advertising
Chat room - NW room all but gone
The name Swinging Heaven is currently a misnomer for this Site and Advertising Standards ought to be called in wink Then again, fads and fashions change and the site owners might decide to get pro active and stop the slide - they need to.
I just want to know what the other site was :twisted:
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I just want to know what the other site was :twisted:

Trust me if it's the one I'm thinking of it's shoite lol
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spent the whole fekin weekend googlin' "elsewhere"

lol Perhaps it would be helpful for posts that have been modified to comply with rules to be marked as such - self-edited posts are automatically marked so I am not sure why this is any different (unless a mod edit falls in the realms of divine intervention, hehe).
bayboy1664 - here's a clue.
As for the OP... 6 brand new meets in 4 weeks :shock: Wish I had your energy! I am not on any other site, SH has been more than plenty for me, though the general conscensus is that "elsewhere" is better for arranging meets, here is better for socialising. As already mentioned - depends on your needs and play style. I have heard from others before that "elsewhere" can be relentless in its non-stop clinching-the-deal intensity. For me personally this site is enough of a meat market, so I won't be giving the other place a try. I will also agree with Marya in that most new members don't stick around for long, because the free account deal is so poor.
Quote by Trevaunance
I have the same profile, pictures etc

Well, maybe it would be more accurate to say you have similar profiles on the two sites. But they are not the same.
The text of your profile is different
You have a different number of photo's available
And you appear to get older when you log in here to the other site!
It might seem shallow to some, but we personally would be put off if we noticed the age difference betwixt the two. It would call us to question which is correct and furthermore what else may not be correct on your profile.
For us one lie is one lie too many, swinging is about honesty, it has to be or it will end up going wrong in many cases, so if we think someone will lie about anything on thier profile we worry about what else they will lie about, it is not shallow it is self preservation and we agree with this post.
But, putting that aside for the minute. The other site has a chatroom that is geographically based in your area. This site doesn't. I'm guessing that if you use the chatrooms at all then you will use the South East chatroom on the other site and be chatting with people closer to you and therefore easier to arrange meets with. However on this site you would probably end up in a non geographic room and therefore the people you are sharing the room with could be all over the UK and less likely to meet on that basis alone.
To improve your chances on this site why not place an advert? Lets face it there are over 1 million single male profiles here, so surely you want to do your best to stand out from the crowd?
We have had nothing but timewasters on the other site, yes we have had our fair share here too, but at least we have arranged meets from this site. We have never had a meet from that site. Maybe it's a case of horses for courses.
mincepie
Much obliged,thank you! wink
Part of the problem I fear is because new mebers who just join but don't become paid up members, can not reply to mail !! when you send them a message in reply to their ad...you may think they are ignorant for not replying...fact is unless they pay they can't.
I have said many times before it would be useful to know before we message these people that they can't actually reply !! I have mentioned Bronze membership for non paying, just browing mebers,...Silver for paid up members...and gold for those that have extras package as well !! At least this way, you would understand why you had sent out 20 messages and recieved no replies !!! the other idea I have mentioned before is that the non paid up members could reply to a message at a cost of say £1 a time.... that way they would probably see the £50 a year membership with unlimited relies was actually a better deal !!
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the other idea I have mentioned before is that the non paid up members could reply to a message at a cost of say £1 a time.... that way they would probably see the £50 a year membership with unlimited relies was actually a better deal !!

:thumbup: to that,
I think it's a good idea as when we didn't have a full account we got a few messages we would of liked to respond to bu couldn't :sad:
What's this site you talk of?! Ha! lol
I'll skip to the end as I know all I need to from personal experience. Was here 5 years all types of effort put in, forum, chat room, socials inlcludint hosting them. Never played. Other site on for 1 month first play and have had numerous sessions now. Do I need to know the reason or am I even interested, no dont care. Both places serve there purpose but this one isnt for sorting meets for us anymore.