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Why won''t the world help?

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I read this artical today and I screamed at the paper " why do people do nothing "?
With all that is going on in the world at the moment with conflicts, can we as a world not put a stop to this kind of horror?
The children in this conflict are suffering unimaginable horrors, It is a cruel nasty world we live in at times.
That word probably sums it up.
I don't think it is just apathy, I think there is a certain element of "it's not happening to me, therefore it's not happening"
I dont read the article as "nothing is being done"...and i dont think the people of this country are to blame and therefore wouldnt personally see it as "why do we do nothing".
There is an appeal at the end suggesting a way of making a difference.I know it has touched my conscience and im glad i was made aware of the article.
It is a sad sad state of affairs... but , being a realist, i see that even a billion quid poured into an appeal couldnt ever fully help or compensate everyone for their suffering.
save for huge amounts of aid, implementing a stable political structure,disarmament of militias,total curing of disease, crop improvement. etc, etc, the sad truth is that many more innocents will die and suffer.
The situation seems hopeless doesnt it?History shows The situation isnt new and is the way things are in the "3rd world".
.... having seen the article, i will gladly give to the charity and pray for them......it might just help
My son has gained a new friend at school last year. My son and this boy would, and still do, go from house to house to play and have tea. After a while his father invited me in and we got talking. He was telling me that he was a refugee from the Congo. He told me all about the things that went on in his country. I naively asked if it was really that bad. He didn't get angry, he just lifted up his shirt. I recognised bullet wounds. We have talked more and have become loose friends, I say loose as I know he has his own plans for his family and we will lose touch one day.
Can I do anything? I already am. My taxes are paying for this man, his wife and children to stay in this country to avoid persecution.
When I see comments in the papers about these foreigners here claiming benefits makes me angry. This guy wants to return to his own country one day. This is his dream.
Dave_Notts
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My son has gained a new friend at school last year. My son and this boy would, and still do, go from house to house to play and have tea. After a while his father invited me in and we got talking. He was telling me that he was a refugee from the Congo. He told me all about the things that went on in his country. I naively asked if it was really that bad. He didn't get angry, he just lifted up his shirt. I recognised bullet wounds. We have talked more and have become loose friends, I say loose as I know he has his own plans for his family and we will lose touch one day.
Can I do anything? I already am. My taxes are paying for this man, his wife and children to stay in this country to avoid persecution.
When I see comments in the papers about these foreigners here claiming benefits makes me angry. This guy wants to return to his own country one day. This is his dream.
Dave_Notts

JB works in this area, it's a common discussion and there's a great deal of info available. Well said about newpapers and their irresponsible comments. The jews, gypsies and other groups were slaughtered because of such attitudes 60 years ago.
We don't pay enough taxes so can't afford to support more asylum seekers. We're generally selfish, don't support our own let alone those from overseas. Trade, not aid, is a good way out yet we buy goods on price rather than fairtrade type stock (and look how we've moaned about call centres overseas yet we go for insurance that saves us a few pounds a year).
As an interesting point here, if we stop dumping clothes (collecting for charity type bags that arrive daily through the letterbox) then many of these countries would have to make their own leading to employment and perhaps eventually export due to low production costs!
Its obvious why the world won't help. There's no oil in DR Congo!
I can't help being cynical.
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Its obvious why the world won't help. There's no oil in DR Congo!
I can't help being cynical.

No oil in Afganastan either, but we are there. :shock:
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Its obvious why the world won't help. There's no oil in DR Congo!
I can't help being cynical.

No oil in Afganastan either, but we are there. :shock:
They have heroin
Dave_Notts
i have to admit and i suspect many are the same,i find typical everyday life as a loan parent working full time i dont look out side of my world that often.
is this because im so busy, so tired,? i cant remember the last time i read a newspaper. confused
we are all being told resession is on its way, and im sure many of us are strugling, or having to accept we cant live on the never never.
but it pains me to think of these innocent children suffering. god what kind of life do they have?
i guess its hard to ask for the publics help when everyone is aparently skint. we all live to our means and so above it.
but why are there people having to live like this? when we have footballers, MD's etc with all that money??
i dont doubt it wil be those who have least that try to give most.
so many good causes so little money? do we choise giving to none cuse we cant give to all?
sorry ramblings, cuse id like to discover a answer but i cant.
xxxx fem xxxx
why arnt we helping? i mean the uk as a nation and government?
If every SH Member pledged £5 to children in need. That would be £4,640,035 raised.
Surely some good could be done with that.
And wouldnt it be cool to hear Terry Wogan telling the world that UK swingers have raised 4 million quid
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If every SH Member pledged £5 to children in need. That would be £4,640,035 raised.
Surely some good could be done with that.
And wouldnt it be cool to hear Terry Wogan telling the world that UK swingers have raised 4 million quid

It would be even cooler if people like Terry Wogan gave a huge chunk of his large fortune he earns for getting us poor mugs to donate money we cant really afford lol sorry about that its just a bugbear when all these wogans, geldoffs etc try to encourage the nation to give what they can while sitting with a 6 or 7 figure bank balance. rant over
if the membership numbers were true reflection of active members lol
xxx fem
No oil in Afghanistan but it is a possible route for pipelines from the oil and gas fields around the Caspian Sea.
Quote by kentswingers777
I read this artical today and I screamed at the paper " why do people do nothing "?
With all that is going on in the world at the moment with conflicts, can we as a world not put a stop to this kind of horror?
The children in this conflict are suffering unimaginable horrors, It is a cruel nasty world we live in at times.

I agree with you.....the problem tends to be that if everyone relies on everyone else to do something, then invariably nothing get done...sad everyone always waits on a first move and by that stage it is too late
then if someone does something, you get people asking "why are we risking our people?" "why are we helping others when we have so much to do at home?" ect ect........
It is a fine line that everyone treads..... we have seen what happens when it gets to the stage of being too little too late.
Remember Rwanda, Remember Bosnia, it is happening even in Darfur now.... you would think that people in power would learn these lessons by now :(
This conversation kinda reminds me of the thread we were talking about the other day, give to charities that work abroad as opposed to ones that work for people in the uk....
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I read this artical today and I screamed at the paper " why do people do nothing "?
With all that is going on in the world at the moment with conflicts, can we as a world not put a stop to this kind of horror?
The children in this conflict are suffering unimaginable horrors, It is a cruel nasty world we live in at times.

I agree with you.....the problem tends to be that if everyone relies on everyone else to do something, then invariably nothing get done...sad everyone always waits on a first move and by that stage it is too late
then if someone does something, you get people asking "why are we risking our people?" "why are we helping others when we have so much to do at home?" ect ect........
It is a fine line that everyone treads..... we have seen what happens when it gets to the stage of being too little too late.
Remember Rwanda, Remember Bosnia, it is happening even in Darfur now.... you would think that people in power would learn these lessons by now :(
This conversation kinda reminds me of the thread we were talking about the other day, give to charities that work abroad as opposed to ones that work for people in the uk....
Agree with you Fabio but.....to see kids suffer this way, it is a horror on a massive scale.
The trouble is it is mainly caused by tin pot African Governments, who take everything from its people and gives nothing back. But this is a situation that money cannot help. It can in the short term but whatever money would/could be raised, would be taken by the Government to fund ITS war. As usual it will be the people who will suffer, especially the children.
Surely with Natos wealth and strength, they could do something if they really wanted too? Or is it simply what someone else has said " no oil ". Are we really going to allow this kind of thing to continue to happen and millions die?
I hope that troops can be sent to the Congo, and at least give the people a rest bite from all the fighting and deaths. No easy solutions I know.
The only thing that would help is to turn the 3rd world into the 1st world and that ain't gonna happen in our lifetime, if ever.
One can only help self-destructiveness so far, the answer has to come from within, not from the outside.
Throwing money at it will not help long-term, all that does is assuage the consciences of the money throwers.
Even if we could help, what do we do?
Invade and set up a new goverment?, look at the mess that has got us into in afganistan.
Look how much money bob geldof raised for ethiopia, has made hardly any difference.
I'm afraid some countries just can't be helped.
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The only thing that would help is to turn the 3rd world into the 1st world and that ain't gonna happen in our lifetime, if ever.
One can only help self-destructiveness so far, the answer has to come from within, not from the outside.
Throwing money at it will not help long-term, all that does is assuage the consciences of the money throwers.

... and make the 3rd world leaders even richer evil
I've been trying not to read that because I knew the effect it would have. I just read it and I cried. We can only do so much.
IMHO,
Charity does not help in anyway.
All it does is make people reliant on it.
It's self perpetuating.
The time will come when world leaders will realise that, on another note, children die in this country every day, people cannot get medical treatment they need, the homeless live on the streets, mental health services are at breaking point, have a look at the UK's aid package for developing nations and defence spending in conjunction with the previous statements and tell me how on earth government justifies it?