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Quote by Vix
DYSLECTIC HI I AM dyslectic and i dont no what
all these silly marks in between letters . so
dot worry i will not post any more on here
mayby i will you my dragon naturally speaking in future
what is text speak good by

Oh, FFS!
I am so annoyed that dyslexia is used as a catch-all excuse, these days.
It seems that once a child is given that 'diagnosis', then everyone is supposed to accept they will no longer even attempt to learn.
A (supposed) adult telling me that "all these silly marks in between letters" mean nothing to them, manages to ingratiate that person to me a grand sum of... none.
How can being 'word blind' cause you to refute the existance of punctuation?
No, truly, I want to know.
It can't.
What is dyslexia?
Dyslexia is a specific learning disability that is neurological in origin. It is characterized by difficulties with accurate and / or fluent word recognition and by poor spelling and decoding abilities.
These difficulties typically result from a deficit in the phonological component of language that is often unexpected in relation to other cognitive abilities and the provision of effective classroom instruction. Secondary consequences may include problems in reading comprehension and reduced reading experience that can impede growth of vocabulary and background knowledge.
Adopted by the IDA Board of Directors, Nov. 12, 2002. This Definition is also used by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD).
Can individuals who are dyslexic learn to read?
Yes, if children who are dyslexic get effective phonological training in Kindergarten and 1st grade, they will have significantly fewer problems in learning to read at grade level than do children who are not identified or helped until 3rd grade.
74% of the children who are poor readers in 3rd grade remain poor readers in the 9th grade. Often they can't read well as adults either.
It is never too late for individuals with dyslexia to learn to read, process and express information more efficiently. Research shows that programs utilizing multisensory structured language techniques can help children and adults learn to read
taken from The International Dyslexia Assoc's web page
Quote by manofmuchfun
I thought that this site attempted to help?
come on Mr Havant couple.....keep posting.....things are not as bad as they seem here !

Manofmuchfun, people have to be able to understand to be able to help. The post looked as if it had been typed either in text speak, or whilst the poster was under the influence of alcohol. confused Havantcpl have now explained their illegible post as being due to dyslexia. To be honest, that's a poor excuse for the post and as you'll see from Vix's post, he could benefit from help (even though he is an adult). Adult evening classes might help.
Not saying he shouldn't post until he's been to school, just saying that if it's a problem he can get help. If he can communicate better, he will surely have more success on here, don't you think?
Quote by manofmuchfun
Not saying he shouldn't post until he's been to school, just saying that if it's a problem he can get help. If he can communicate better, he will surely have more success on here, don't you think?

I think thats obvious !.......but I bet the fella can get a hard on ? and feelings !
like I say i'm not qualified .......
If he can't communicate effectively (which is apparent from his post) then he'll find it difficult to arrange meets (where he can use the hardon). He's blamed dyslexia (and he isn't the only one who does that) for poor punctuation/spelling/inability to form proper sentences and that is something he can get help with.
As you will all know im not known for my patience , understanding or political correctness. However whilst Im the first to get on my Holier Than Thou Mixed Metaphor Horse when a rude asshole turns up , or one of those tossers who think all the women on here only require a penis description to get a shag - you will never see me being uneccessarily nasty over such things as spelling or syntax . This was a particularly extreme example , but although it was difficult to understand , its content was at least equal to many of the posts by superior scholars on the board . At least it was an attempt at some kind of contribution . I may be proved wrong and the person in question may turn out to be a dickwad ( i reserve the right to chastise them if they are ) but all I meant was they havent done anything offensive yet .
Yes dyslexia isnt a catch all excuse for no effort , and of course if the correct teaching methods are employed it can be helped very efficiently . Thing is im only in my thirties and have had several friends over the years who not only didnt have the access to specialist teaching ( not that it was generally available when I was at school anyway ) but managed to go through school without ever being diagnosed as dyslexic . I wasnt excusing laziness I was just suggesting maybe to cut them a wee bit slack at first , not like me I know , but from the sound of it savaging this poster is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel .
Peace
G
G, from his post beginning the thread, everyone thought Hants was pissed or lazy. He's said he's dyslexic and blamed that for poor posts. If indeed, he is one of those children that the system missed, he could now seek help through adult learning to enable him to communicate more effectively.
Quote by Silk and Big G
) . . . . . . . . from the sound of it savaging this poster is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel .
Peace
G

Havantcouple's post wasn't written in Standard English but was it really so difficult to understand? It maybe says as much about the intellect of those that couldn't read it as the person who wrote it. Maybe they should go back to school for problem solving lessons. lol
The purpose of the written word is to communicate ideas. Havantcouple succeeded in that for anyone who looked at the post with an open mind.
Yeah, sorry.
I still stand by my every word, this time, but I should have kept schtum.
I've pretty much kept out of it because I can't tell the difference between lazy posts and the genuinely dyslexic ones, and unless anyone here has personal expertise in doing so, I'd be reluctant to take anyone's judgement as gospel,either way. I do, however, prefer to err on the side of caution. Txtspk is certainly not dyslexia, but I wonder if sometimes it is a tool dyslexics use to get around it?
That's simply my take on it smile
Venusxxx
Quote by Silk and Big G
As you will all know im not known for my patience , understanding or political correctness. However whilst Im the first to get on my Holier Than Thou Mixed Metaphor Horse when a rude asshole turns up , or one of those tossers who think all the women on here only require a penis description to get a shag - you will never see me being uneccessarily nasty over such things as spelling or syntax . This was a particularly extreme example , but although it was difficult to understand , its content was at least equal to many of the posts by superior scholars on the board . At least it was an attempt at some kind of contribution . I may be proved wrong and the person in question may turn out to be a dickwad ( i reserve the right to chastise them if they are ) but all I meant was they havent done anything offensive yet .
Yes dyslexia isnt a catch all excuse for no effort , and of course if the correct teaching methods are employed it can be helped very efficiently . Thing is im only in my thirties and have had several friends over the years who not only didnt have the access to specialist teaching ( not that it was generally available when I was at school anyway ) but managed to go through school without ever being diagnosed as dyslexic . I wasnt excusing laziness I was just suggesting maybe to cut them a wee bit slack at first , not like me I know , but from the sound of it savaging this poster is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel .
Peace
G

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Well said.
Quote by manofmuchfun
well at least you could realise it venus, im not sure and I've been pondering over it all day, but Im no expert on that or medical matters.....my difference was that at the point he tried to announce his problem then should he have been jumped on ? ...I had athought that MAYBE if he'd have said it from the start might there be more understanding? i'm neither tolerant of fools or idiots, what if he wanted conversation ? maybe his wife was at work ? his post wasnt offensive ,
I thought this site was a caring community.......I'm not sure anymore....
its fair game for a twat.....this? i'm not sure ...I'm still thinking !
sorry....my views only !
Alan

Not a good thing for people to have to announce their problems in the first place tbh. I think it adds to the stigma and social exclusion.
The first post was based on phonetics (like text-speak), but wasn't offensive or against any of the rules, so I didn't see a problem with it.
There is a school of thought that suggests that dyslexics benefit from a learning process that differs from the usual, so maybe he has been told to use phonetics when he types as this could be a major improvement over the frustration caused by not being able to communicate in the cyber world at all. So taking him one step closer to "normality" (whatever that is) dunno
There are several people on here who I KNOW are dyslexic. Unfortunately dyslexia isn't like a broken leg, where you either have one or you don't, it's more of a sliding scale. So comparing two people with dyslexia is plain unfair.
MOMF don't appologise for expressing an opinion. That's what we're doing here mate...... well one of many things. lol
I've been married to a dyslexic for 15 years and I must admit I could read the first post with no problems but that’s because I have learnt how to. My husband was diagnosed in 1983 and has 2 degrees, one in Computers and one in English. Dyslexic people can learn just as well as other people just may be at a slower pace and it's a hell of a lot harder. My husband can’t even have a chequebook because he can't sign his name the same twice! Thank god for chip and pin now days!
Quote by havantcouple
r is to lose at strip poke and
b throun out with nothing bar
r front door key. and b left to fing
r own way home as we r redface

If your post made any sense (as if it was written in English) I might have been able to respond. rolleyes
Quote by Tania
r is to lose at strip poke and
b throun out with nothing bar
r front door key. and b left to fing
r own way home as we r redface

If your post made any sense (as if it was written in English) I might have been able to respond. rolleyes
I take it you haven't read the whole thread then.
Quote by easy
As an aside, bloody nice avatar Blondeslave. :thumbup:
I was actually going to mention that they may be dyslexic, but as they've obviously said they are and left I'll say nothing. :gagged:

Thanx Easy............. I love my new avatar............... it was given to me by jiggle............ isn't he clever..............
I am dyslexic.............. but I try my best to get things done so that people can understand my writing........... I was never taught to write like the author of this thread....... so please dont be offended.............. it just wasn't easy for me to understand it................ as I am sure you can understand............... if u r dyslexic ?
I've also noticed a great many people who are unsure about punctuation use '..........' to break up the sentances.
It works smile
Venusxxx'
Quote by northwest-cpl
r is to lose at strip poke and
b throun out with nothing bar
r front door key. and b left to fing
r own way home as we r redface

If your post made any sense (as if it was written in English) I might have been able to respond. rolleyes
I take it you haven't read the whole thread then.
No, hadn't read the entire thread, but having read a bit of it now, I see the original poster claims to be dyslexic. Well, I have worked with dyslexic children (and I was teaching them a FOREIGN language which must be a hundred times more difficult than teaching one his/her own language) and none of them was this bad. I have also known some adults who are dyslexic and use computers to write their university papers but are clever to use the spell check facility.
I believe a lot of damage was done in the 80s when education took a downward turn with politicians eager to turn out blue collar workers instead of academics. I guess suppressing the masses safeguards the interests of an elitist society. So we can't blame the people alone. But we must ask ourselves what good do we do to under achievers by tolerating them. If you saw someone dog paddling in the sea struggling to stay afloat, wouldn't you offer them a helping hand and try to teach them to swim so they don't drown? I see correcting people's mistakes to be that helping hand - pushing them to do better in future. I believe in an equal society - but equality at the highest standard, not at the rock bottom. Does this make sense?
Quote by VenusnMars
I've also noticed a great many people who are unsure about punctuation use '..........' to break up the sentances.
It works smile
Venusxxx'

Hello babe,
I dont want to start a row............ but please see above.................. some of us have to concentrate to get this right.................. so comments about how we write and dont punctuate, are not helpful!
Dyslexia is not a sign of a lack of intelligence............ please note....
Stepping off my soapbox now !!
Thank-you
Quote by Tania
r is to lose at strip poke and
b throun out with nothing bar
r front door key. and b left to fing
r own way home as we r redface

If your post made any sense (as if it was written in English) I might have been able to respond. rolleyes
I take it you haven't read the whole thread then.
I believe a lot of damage was done in the 80s when education took a downward turn with politicians eager to turn out blue collar workers instead of academics. I guess suppressing the masses safeguards the interests of an elitist society.
Shit! I knew I should have stayed out of this thread. I caught dyslexia! :shock: :shock: :shock:
A helping hand is nice, but it's not always nice to center out one person and correct them publically. It can make them feel foolish. If it's a serious repetitive mistake, then a PM is much more diplomatic.
I have a dyslexic friend who is impossible to teach. Not because he is lazy, but because he is embarrassed. Everytime I tried to correct him on something (and this was during help that he asked for), no matter how nicely, he'd respond with "Yes, I know!". A habit learnt from a life-time of covering up because of the teasing he'd received throughout school.
Venusxxx
Quote by blondeslave
I've also noticed a great many people who are unsure about punctuation use '..........' to break up the sentances.
It works smile
Venusxxx'

Hello babe,
I dont want to start a row............ but please see above.................. some of us have to concentrate to get this right.................. so comments about how we write and dont punctuate, are not helpful!
Dyslexia is not a sign of a lack of intelligence............ please note....
Stepping off my soapbox now !!
Thank-you

I'm sorry. It was meant as an observation not a criticism redface . Sometimes I think that if people took the time to observe this stuff they'd be less judgemental, which I was hoping to encourage. That said I'm legendary for getting carried away and forgetting the person at the end of it all. Must have felt like I was talkng down to you eh? That wasn`t my intention. Ironic considering my last post.
/shoots self in head emoticon.
Venusxxx
lol and I knew I should have remained in my Punctuation thread instead of trying to reassure people that the alternatives they use do, in fact, work for some of us! Coming across as condescending (sp?) is a trait I'm all too aware that I have.
Bollocks to this, I'm off to watch Dodgeball with the kids. :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Quote by VenusnMars
I've also noticed a great many people who are unsure about punctuation use '..........' to break up the sentances.
It works smile
Venusxxx'

Hello babe,
I dont want to start a row............ but please see above.................. some of us have to concentrate to get this right.................. so comments about how we write and dont punctuate, are not helpful!
Dyslexia is not a sign of a lack of intelligence............ please note....
Stepping off my soapbox now !!
Thank-you

I'm sorry. It was meant as an observation not a criticism redface . Sometimes I think that if people took the time to observe this stuff they'd be less judgemental, which I was hoping to encourage. That said I'm legendary for getting carried away and forgetting the person at the end of it all. Must have felt like I was talkng down to you eh? That wasn`t my intention. Ironic considering my last post.
/shoots self in head emoticon.
Venusxxx
No need to shoot yourself in the head babe............. I did that for you when I read your post...........lol
You are totally forgiven............ shall we start again ???
Quote by blondeslave
I've also noticed a great many people who are unsure about punctuation use '..........' to break up the sentances.
It works smile
Venusxxx'

Hello babe,
I dont want to start a row............ but please see above.................. some of us have to concentrate to get this right.................. so comments about how we write and dont punctuate, are not helpful!
Dyslexia is not a sign of a lack of intelligence............ please note....
Stepping off my soapbox now !!
Thank-you

I'm sorry. It was meant as an observation not a criticism redface . Sometimes I think that if people took the time to observe this stuff they'd be less judgemental, which I was hoping to encourage. That said I'm legendary for getting carried away and forgetting the person at the end of it all. Must have felt like I was talkng down to you eh? That wasn`t my intention. Ironic considering my last post.
/shoots self in head emoticon.
Venusxxx
No need to shoot yourself in the head babe............. I did that for you when I read your post...........lol
You are totally forgiven............ shall we start again ???

Blonde, how on earth do you keep up in the chatroom as well as you do? My hubby isn't dyslexic and he can't even keep up with the reading, never mind typing as well :shock:
Quote by freckledbird
I've also noticed a great many people who are unsure about punctuation use '..........' to break up the sentances.
It works smile
Venusxxx'

Hello babe,
I dont want to start a row............ but please see above.................. some of us have to concentrate to get this right.................. so comments about how we write and dont punctuate, are not helpful!
Dyslexia is not a sign of a lack of intelligence............ please note....
Stepping off my soapbox now !!
Thank-you

I'm sorry. It was meant as an observation not a criticism redface . Sometimes I think that if people took the time to observe this stuff they'd be less judgemental, which I was hoping to encourage. That said I'm legendary for getting carried away and forgetting the person at the end of it all. Must have felt like I was talkng down to you eh? That wasn`t my intention. Ironic considering my last post.
/shoots self in head emoticon.
Venusxxx
No need to shoot yourself in the head babe............. I did that for you when I read your post...........lol
You are totally forgiven............ shall we start again ???

Blonde, how on earth do you keep up in the chatroom as well as you do? My hubby isn't dyslexic and he can't even keep up with the reading, never mind typing as well :shock:
Freckledbird............... this is going to make me sound so sad.............. but haven't u noticed that I sometimes misread things......... and answer a question that hasn't even been asked................... lol............... everyone puts it down to me being dizzy coz of the "blonde" thing.................... or they put it down to too much brandy.............. (I dont have booze in the house)
So now u know !!!!....... but dont be sympathetic towards me coz I will rip yer head off.................lol lol lol
Steady there Blondeslave, if you rip all their heads off, there will be no one for us to correspond with.
John wink
Quote by Horous
Steady there Blondeslave, if you rip all their heads off, there will be no one for us to correspond with.
John wink

I'm a demon, I'd just grow another head lol :twisted:
Quote by VenusnMars
r is to lose at strip poke and
b throun out with nothing bar
r front door key. and b left to fing
r own way home as we r redface

If your post made any sense (as if it was written in English) I might have been able to respond. rolleyes
I take it you haven't read the whole thread then.
I believe a lot of damage was done in the 80s when education took a downward turn with politicians eager to turn out blue collar workers instead of academics. I guess suppressing the masses safeguards the interests of an elitist society.
Shit! I knew I should have stayed out of this thread. I caught dyslexia! :shock: :shock: :shock:
A helping hand is nice, but it's not always nice to center out one person and correct them publically. It can make them feel foolish. If it's a serious repetitive mistake, then a PM is much more diplomatic.
I have a dyslexic friend who is impossible to teach. Not because he is lazy, but because he is embarrassed. Everytime I tried to correct him on something (and this was during help that he asked for), no matter how nicely, he'd respond with "Yes, I know!". A habit learnt from a life-time of covering up because of the teasing he'd received throughout school.
Venusxxx
Phonetic methods of teaching spelling in the 80's left me completely unable to spell. I have taught myself by using a dictionary or spell check!
Another reason peopel who are dyslexic find it difficult to learn in adulthood is, in my opinion, a lack of affordable teaching. Evening classes are not cheap. And anything that is free is usually inadequate due to lack of funding. (Not due to the teachers!)
I want some sympathy!
Not only am I dyslexic, I’m impotent too.
I cant write Norfolk
Quote by Happy Cats
I want some sympathy!
Not only am I dyslexic, I’m impotent too.
I cant write Norfolk

That's an oldie but goodie
lol :lol: :lol: