Punky
Everything you have said leads me to believe you know nothing about the true Fetish scene. It's all very fun to dress up in weird clothes and prance around a dance flour looking cool... but that's not what Fetishism is about.
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WBB I know you are only a couple of years older than Punky, but when it comes to maturity, consideration and personality you leave her way behind. She displays the attitude and maturity of a pubescent teenager.
I've just looked back at the posts on here, WBB, I'm absolutely certain that Dan did not include you in his statement about youth. I think he was just as seething as me over the insulting start to the thread.
Anyway I'm proud of who, and what, and how old we all are!
I'm happy in the knowledge that I am content with being who I am at this point in my life.
Whilst Punky thinks she has so few years of being attractive (if she is, can't really comment - never seen a pic). never mind perhaps she'll grow up one day.
Anyway - it seems no-one seems to agree, or at least, has not bothered to post anything in agreement, with Punky and I for one, think she has probably taken up too much of our attention anyway.
So hugs to all!
Alex x x
(sad old minger - NOT!)
I've just looked back at the posts on here, WBB, I'm absolutely certain that Dan did not include you in his statement about youth. I think he was just as seething as me over the insulting start to the thread.
Anyway I'm proud of who, and what, and how old we all are!
I'm happy in the knowledge that I am content with being who I am at this point in my life.
Whilst Punky thinks she has so few years of being attractive (if she is, can't really comment - never seen a pic). never mind perhaps she'll grow up one day.
Anyway - it seems no-one seems to agree, or at least, has not bothered to post anything in agreement, with Punky and I for one, think she has probably taken up too much of our attention anyway.
So hugs to all!
Alex x x
(sad old minger - NOT!)
Sex God
Quote by Punky
Well i don't think i have ever pissed off so many people in one swoop. And if this wasn't an on going issue why is it that we now have the night called fantaysia which is aimed at a more glamorous croud????
Glamorous in whose opinion? Yours?
Quote by Punky
Anyway with regards to my age I think you are all as shallow as me, you are saying i assume over a certain age you are ugly, but you are assuming that at the age of 20 i am not adult enough to be on the swinging scene or have a clue?? Words like pot kettle and black come to mind. You don't know enough about me to judge whether or not i am mature enough for this scene.
You are wrong there Punky you have been judged by your words and attitudes as being immature and shallow. Your actual age is irrelevant.
Quote by Punky
And i wouldn't say i am shallow just some of us have standards. And i was simply saying it would be nice to have a club night where there were the kinds of people you may look twice at in the street. Not the type you know was the weird kid at school everyone thought was a bit odd.
I was the weird kid at school, but when I got out in the Adult world I realised that genuine people don't judge based on looks but on personality.
Quote by Punky
And with regards to ending my profile name...what for expressing an opinion that the moderator doesn't like...?? What happened to democracy we are all entitled to opinions i happened to have voiced mine.
I do agree with you here, deleting your profile would deprive the rest of us of some much needed entertainment laughing at you. I also agree you are entitled to your opinion and entitled to express it. (Much as I hate to agree with anything you have put.)
Quote by Punky
I am not saying what i am to cause trouble i was mearly trying to establish how many people on this sight would be interested in a new night, many thanks i believe i have my answer!!
:!: :idea:
I think you do Punky, I do not believe most people here would want to meet your criteria to be invited, and certainly would not want to attend a party where the only people there met one persons idea of beauty. BTW my wife and I are both under 30 so would meet your age restriction, but I'm damned sure we are not the sort of people you wish to invite.
Casanova
Alexandra wrote :
Thank you Alexandra, you are totally correct, yes I was very annoyed and insulted by this thread and I was a little hasty with my post !!
It did all come out a bit wrong !!
Sorry if I offended anyone, it was not intentional :doh:
Cheers Dan xx
P.S. WBB you have a PM
I've just looked back at the posts on here, WBB, I'm absolutely certain that Dan did not include you in his statement about youth. I think he was just as seething as me over the insulting start to the thread.
Thank you Alexandra, you are totally correct, yes I was very annoyed and insulted by this thread and I was a little hasty with my post !!
It did all come out a bit wrong !!
Sorry if I offended anyone, it was not intentional :doh:
Cheers Dan xx
P.S. WBB you have a PM
Sex God
awww dan hun.. i was not in the slightest offended!!!!
honest.. i was just being me.. and dramatising anything i could find to dramatise! :twisted:
thank you for the lovely pm..
and also to the other person who sent a similar one. :kiss:
luv n stuff....
wbb
xxxx
honest.. i was just being me.. and dramatising anything i could find to dramatise! :twisted:
thank you for the lovely pm..
and also to the other person who sent a similar one. :kiss: luv n stuff....
wbb
xxxx
Quote by Punky
why is it that we now have the night called fantaysia which is aimed at a more glamorous croud????
Well, I'd like to wish you luck with this. Obviously you have some quite specific sexual desires and if you can gather enough people of similar viewpoints to sustain regular and mutually satisfactory events, I'm sure we have no cause to begrudge you that.
Quote by Punky
And i was simply saying it would be nice to have a club night where there were the kinds of people you may look twice at in the street.
Yes, but the reason you've encountered such a vociferous response is you've projected your own sexual desires onto the world. You've seen what you perceive as attractive and assumed everyone else perceives attractiveness in a similar way. They don't. Different people like different things, different people are turned on by different things. There's nothing wrong with having your own unique ideas of what qualities makes someone sexually desirable, so long as you don't offend people who don't push your particular buttons.
Casanova
wbb wrote :
Thank you
Dan xxx
awww dan hun.. i was not in the slightest offended!!!!
Thank you
Dan xxx
Dear Punky
You are condemmend by your own own words. You are entitled to your own opinion but no one is obliged to agree with it. You call yourself Punky but I don't know why. You appear to have no understanding of the punk ethic. You appear to be living in a fantasy world created by the likes of Hollywood and othe media types who have appropriated punk to mean something other than it was intended. You have totally failed to understand what punk is about and have probably adapted the name Punky because you thought it made you sound anarchic whereas you are anything but. You are a facist. I gathered from your very first words you obviously lacked an understanding of anything to do with punk or fetish. Indeed you are shallow if you think being good looking and is more important than loving and accepting people for who they are with all their physical differences. So once again up yours :moon: Now that's punk!
You are condemmend by your own own words. You are entitled to your own opinion but no one is obliged to agree with it. You call yourself Punky but I don't know why. You appear to have no understanding of the punk ethic. You appear to be living in a fantasy world created by the likes of Hollywood and othe media types who have appropriated punk to mean something other than it was intended. You have totally failed to understand what punk is about and have probably adapted the name Punky because you thought it made you sound anarchic whereas you are anything but. You are a facist. I gathered from your very first words you obviously lacked an understanding of anything to do with punk or fetish. Indeed you are shallow if you think being good looking and is more important than loving and accepting people for who they are with all their physical differences. So once again up yours :moon: Now that's punk!
Sex God
Edited by myself (easy) as some of the comments were possibly insulting
Oh god it's the Posh and Becks of S&M:eeek: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek:
Sorry Punky, but I do think you're having a bit of a laugh posting on here and trying to promote a possible night you may be having.
Try posting on one of the other many sites dedicated to themed clubnights in London.
Oh and sorry to burst your bubble, but is this the same Fantazia that started in the late 80's and that I who's nights I was going to in 1990. It ain't exactly a new thing. as Damon Albarn once wrote "Nothing is new, only reproduced". You're boyfriends old enough to remember those nights, you might want to ask him if he ever got to any.
As far as I'm concerned the Fantazia and the the night you are proposing aren't real fetish nights. They're a bunch of teens/20somethings playing dress-up (I can say that, 'cos I've done it and moved on) .
I'm sure that if you do run an night it will be midly successfull, only don't set the door policy, allow someone who knows what they're doing to do that. Mind you any venue worth half it's salt will insist on it's own door/security staff anyway. I also recommend you don't try and promote it on any sites where you get REAL fetishists (is that a word?) as you'll probably get the same respose as you got here, if not worse.
Right I've said my bit, now I'm off to play my old Club Classics Vol 1 and blow my whistle.
:lol: :lol:
Oh and Lovecommando I agree with your comments as well.
Oh god it's the Posh and Becks of S&M:eeek: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek:
Sorry Punky, but I do think you're having a bit of a laugh posting on here and trying to promote a possible night you may be having.
Try posting on one of the other many sites dedicated to themed clubnights in London.
Oh and sorry to burst your bubble, but is this the same Fantazia that started in the late 80's and that I who's nights I was going to in 1990. It ain't exactly a new thing. as Damon Albarn once wrote "Nothing is new, only reproduced". You're boyfriends old enough to remember those nights, you might want to ask him if he ever got to any.
As far as I'm concerned the Fantazia and the the night you are proposing aren't real fetish nights. They're a bunch of teens/20somethings playing dress-up (I can say that, 'cos I've done it and moved on) .
I'm sure that if you do run an night it will be midly successfull, only don't set the door policy, allow someone who knows what they're doing to do that. Mind you any venue worth half it's salt will insist on it's own door/security staff anyway. I also recommend you don't try and promote it on any sites where you get REAL fetishists (is that a word?) as you'll probably get the same respose as you got here, if not worse.
Right I've said my bit, now I'm off to play my old Club Classics Vol 1 and blow my whistle.
:lol: :lol:Oh and Lovecommando I agree with your comments as well.
Sat here and read this.........and like a lot of you contemplated whether I should respond or not..................
Decided I had to say one thing though............why oh why, whenever someone says something thats the slightest bit controversial or doesn't quite fit the norm, do so many people jump down their throats and attack them ????
Now, I'm not saying I agree with anything or everything that Punky has said, but since coming to this site at the end of last year, I've noticed more and more people get absolutely trounced as soon as they post something - be it a stupid, offensive or just downright wierd post.
So much for this being a "friendly" place to come.......will watch what I post in future......
Oh and for the record, I'm 38 and whilst not that worldly wise, am old enough and ugly enough to have my own opinion and thats exactly what I've just expressed.
Rant over (if you can class it as one). Back to enjoying some of the banter that does go on here................
Decided I had to say one thing though............why oh why, whenever someone says something thats the slightest bit controversial or doesn't quite fit the norm, do so many people jump down their throats and attack them ????
Now, I'm not saying I agree with anything or everything that Punky has said, but since coming to this site at the end of last year, I've noticed more and more people get absolutely trounced as soon as they post something - be it a stupid, offensive or just downright wierd post.
So much for this being a "friendly" place to come.......will watch what I post in future......
Oh and for the record, I'm 38 and whilst not that worldly wise, am old enough and ugly enough to have my own opinion and thats exactly what I've just expressed.
Rant over (if you can class it as one). Back to enjoying some of the banter that does go on here................
Couple1966
The problem is, when you come out with stuff the peeps find offensive or half arsed, you run the risk of being told so. And given the depth and maturity of MOST of our readers, you'll be told so mightily!
Like you say, everyone is entitled to express an opinion... to a point! But I want to make it very clear there is NO discrimination here based upon people's looks or preferences and I'll stamp on it whenever I see it or people suggesting there should be.
The problem is, when you come out with stuff the peeps find offensive or half arsed, you run the risk of being told so. And given the depth and maturity of MOST of our readers, you'll be told so mightily!
Like you say, everyone is entitled to express an opinion... to a point! But I want to make it very clear there is NO discrimination here based upon people's looks or preferences and I'll stamp on it whenever I see it or people suggesting there should be.
Quote by Punky
It seems i posted this in the wrong forum, it stand to reason that people in their twenties do not want to be surrounded by people who could easily be their parents or grandparents with everything to show.
Thereby you would form a club night with the young people who are put of by the fact that fetish clubs on the whole are full of mingers!
As one old enough to be your mother - GROW UP!! LEARN TO SPELL and try to get on with other people. One day you too will have reached your current upper age limit - will have had children and so have suffered in the breast area, might not have done your pelvic floor exercises and have trouble remembering to take the packet of baby wipes and bottle of gripe water out of your handbag. None of those mean your sex drive has gone south or that don't want to experience the thrill of a horny night out. FFS - live and let live.
We don't all judge beauty by the outward manifestion of two gene pools coming together - a fluke of nature. Inner beauty, personality, sexual allure and tolerance are all more beautiful than a size 10 body or a well honed 6 pack. Brigitte Bardot was the beauty of her time - now she is ravaged and borders on the verge of downright ugly but she still exudes sexuality.
I won't deactivate you - the fun factor is way too high.
:lol: Quote by Jags
One day you too will have reached your current upper age limit - will have had children and so have suffered in the breast area, might not have done your pelvic floor exercises and have trouble remembering to take the packet of baby wipes and bottle of gripe water out of your handbag. None of those mean your sex drive has gone south or that don't want to experience the thrill of a horny night out.
When that happens to Punky, what's the betting she arranges a fetish night especially for all those who have not yet lost bladder control?
Quote by Couple1966
why oh why, whenever someone says something thats the slightest bit controversial or doesn't quite fit the norm, do so many people jump down their throats and attack them ????.
My opinion is that what was said was not so much contravertial but downright rude and insulting. There is a very BIG difference!
Alex x x
Sex God
well, seeing as how punky's swan song appears on another thread, i'll refrain from answering her, cos i'd need to support my complete annihilation of her with evidence and quotes and stuff............like..........
i mean it would serve no purpose to argue with someone who believes that that was a valid contribution to the site / community would it. although i must admit that posting that kinda bollox with an email re: a commercial enterprise ((( of sorts..........not *really* commercial cos......well ya know! ))) smacks of spamming and site membership with a profit motive, and a little controversy keeping the thread up on page 1???? well it's useful isn't it??? not my place to comment, cos i've just popped the thread back up myself, but being generally offensive by way of an ulterior commercial motive........... t'is a useful marketing technique eh???
controversial's all fine 'n' dandy. we're on a swinging site, FFS, that the press/the world/the world's wife thinks is full of depraved sexual deviants / corruptors of the nations youth / STD transmitters / marriage breakers etc etc ad nauseam...... being a bit controversial and asking / exploring questions and issues we couldn't discuss in "polite" society is why most of us are here on the forum i reckon!? the shagging sides kinda taken care of by other bits of the site!
erm............stupid.....we all do that........no worries.......downright weird......common currency on 'ere FFS ....... offensive????? ha haaa! offensive.......like making a scathing, abusive, sweeping generalisation, inviting a flame war, goading, being damned plain rude??? if you try to offend, prepare to be offended, cos you will get slapped silly by some fairly weighty intellects, who will try to show you the error of your ways, up to a point. but then they'll just tear your argument to pieces if you persist in being rude, ignorant, arrogant and offensive! :lol:
well you don't have to. bollox ( tm Tune Essence 2004 ) is usual and expected. don't think the god-like ones got there being careful about posts......very much a fire and forget kinda thing, though you may at times regret / hastily edit a particularly rapid fire post. but the "friendly" types on here will forgive the odd rant / complaint / strop, cos they are friends, and there's all kinds of issues that get a bit...................well an occasional strop's generally overlooked cos swinging / site membership ain't all that easy at times!
this forum exists to allow opinions to be expressed and exchanged. your opinion is as valid as anyone elses. but it's always good to remember tho, that the freedom to swing your arms stops where another persons nose begins!!!
neil x x x x x
Quote by Punky trying so hard to stand out from the throngs of mingers
it stand to reason that people in their twenties do not want to be surrounded by people who could easily be their parents or grandparents with everything to show.
Thereby you would form a club night with the young people who are put of by the fact that fetish clubs on the whole are full of mingers!
i mean it would serve no purpose to argue with someone who believes that that was a valid contribution to the site / community would it. although i must admit that posting that kinda bollox with an email re: a commercial enterprise ((( of sorts..........not *really* commercial cos......well ya know!
))) smacks of spamming and site membership with a profit motive, and a little controversy keeping the thread up on page 1???? well it's useful isn't it??? not my place to comment, cos i've just popped the thread back up myself, but being generally offensive by way of an ulterior commercial motive........... t'is a useful marketing technique eh???Quote by Couple1966
why oh why, whenever someone says something thats the slightest bit controversial or doesn't quite fit the norm, do so many people jump down their throats and attack them ????
controversial's all fine 'n' dandy. we're on a swinging site, FFS, that the press/the world/the world's wife thinks is full of depraved sexual deviants / corruptors of the nations youth / STD transmitters / marriage breakers etc etc ad nauseam...... being a bit controversial and asking / exploring questions and issues we couldn't discuss in "polite" society is why most of us are here on the forum i reckon!? the shagging sides kinda taken care of by other bits of the site!
Quote by Couple1966
since coming to this site at the end of last year, I've noticed more and more people get absolutely trounced as soon as they post something - be it a stupid, offensive or just downright wierd post.
erm............stupid.....we all do that........no worries.......downright weird......common currency on 'ere FFS ....... offensive????? ha haaa! offensive.......like making a scathing, abusive, sweeping generalisation, inviting a flame war, goading, being damned plain rude??? if you try to offend, prepare to be offended, cos you will get slapped silly by some fairly weighty intellects, who will try to show you the error of your ways, up to a point. but then they'll just tear your argument to pieces if you persist in being rude, ignorant, arrogant and offensive! :lol:
Quote by Couple1966
So much for this being a "friendly" place to come.......will watch what I post in future......
well you don't have to. bollox ( tm Tune Essence 2004 ) is usual and expected. don't think the god-like ones got there being careful about posts......very much a fire and forget kinda thing, though you may at times regret / hastily edit a particularly rapid fire post. but the "friendly" types on here will forgive the odd rant / complaint / strop, cos they are friends, and there's all kinds of issues that get a bit...................well an occasional strop's generally overlooked cos swinging / site membership ain't all that easy at times!
Quote by Couple1966
Oh and for the record, I'm 38 and whilst not that worldly wise, am old enough and ugly enough to have my own opinion and thats exactly what I've just expressed.
this forum exists to allow opinions to be expressed and exchanged. your opinion is as valid as anyone elses. but it's always good to remember tho, that the freedom to swing your arms stops where another persons nose begins!!!
neil x x x x x
Right as im only 24 myself i wanted to say punky that youve insulted me too.
Not all people in their 20's think as you infact you are most definately in the minority.
Any age group,size shape etc,etc goes for me,everyone is an individual regardless of these groups that were all put into.
As for saying that all people in their 20's feel the same as you but just wont admit to it,well your way off the bloody mark there.
If thats how people really felt then thats what they would say,believe me people on this site say what they think.
To be Honest Punky maybe you should create your own site and talk to all the none mingers and people young enough for you there,im sure youll make a number of real friends and find exactly what your looking for(good riddance)
A pissed off Clare.
Not all people in their 20's think as you infact you are most definately in the minority.
Any age group,size shape etc,etc goes for me,everyone is an individual regardless of these groups that were all put into.
As for saying that all people in their 20's feel the same as you but just wont admit to it,well your way off the bloody mark there.
If thats how people really felt then thats what they would say,believe me people on this site say what they think.
To be Honest Punky maybe you should create your own site and talk to all the none mingers and people young enough for you there,im sure youll make a number of real friends and find exactly what your looking for(good riddance)
A pissed off Clare.
