just a general thought here.
what is this certain age?
does it apply equally to males and females?
I get the impression that a large perceatage of people in this cafe are probably in their 30s and 40s
do you believe that people stop playing after a certain age
or are you merely suggesting that they ought to give up.
As far as I am concerned , age is irrelevant attitude is far more important
Gil
old enough to have fathered some cafe members but happy enough to be their new friend!!!
While respecting the coments that started this string, I would point out to the authors that the established scene you seem to want to experience just isn't how you wish.
By all means set up your own fetish night. And if you make entry rules about age and beauty, then you're in for an empty club or pretty close to it. not to mention the gales of laughter when you tell folk.
The best known clubs are full of real people of all sizes, shapes, kinks and passions. Character, personality, commitment and, to a great extent, experience are what make a good fetish night. Not self esteem on the part of the organisers.
So here's three cheers for diversity.
The Kent Host (time-served fetish hound on three continents - 50plus years of age and having more, better and weirder fun every year)
Have a look around the link below and see what you find.
OK - now is it me (c Terry Wogan) - or is this an insult to those of us 'Over a certain age' (whatever that age is)?
And who says 'Younger' means a better standard?
By all means have your nights and restrict the entry to whoever you wish. If it's your show - that is you choice. But don't go implying by keeping it young you get a better 'class', that is so shallow an attitude.
Class is ageless and also has nothing to do with looks. The inner person is what makes someone, not the outer shell and let's face it - some people are only a shell - no matter how decorative.
(I had said I was going to avoid contraversy, but I found this thread quite an insult to many people.)
I am sure a friendly mod would also like it confirmed that this promotion night you are 'advertising' would entail no charge.
Go Alex my thoughts entirely
Gil
as a mature person I too felt somewhat demeaned
I may not be as fast as I was but I ain't had no complaints
It seems i posted this in the wrong forum, it stand to reason that people in their twenties do not want to be surrounded by people who could easily be their parents or grandparents with everything to show.
Thereby you would form a club night with the young people who are put of by the fact that fetish clubs on the whole are full of mingers!
Punky, I am not old enough to be your parent let along your grandparent. I find your attitude offensive, rude and childish. I was swinging in my 20s and never had a problem with older people. Please be polite or I will de-activate your username ASAP.
Blue now has her mod's hat firmly ON!
oooooh I am in lust with a pink blue or is it a blue pink esp in mod dom mode
What is wrong with guys M or F being old enough to be parents, if you aint tasted then you ain't got a clue re experience
Do not dismiss out of hand experience is worth so much, you cast out at your peril.
Look at the many on here that value and enjoy experience.
It may not work for all but there are those that enjoy experience, and perhaps a more laid back attitude
and be careful most I think mods are of the more mature group, alienate them at your cost
Blue is a sweetie, wait till Jags gets on your ageist case!
best wishes
Gil
older and wiser and slower, but no complaints
There is one thing - by Punky's reckoning SHE is going to be a minger in about a decade.
So perhaps there is justice in this world
All the world is full of yesterdays models and todays mingers....
In a world where the 'look' is where it is at, I feel sorry for the upbeat incrowd, where having NOT got the best designer gear or being cool is a disadvantage. I think we should have islands so the carbuncles on the arse of humanity can all go there and appreciate each other and like peter pan NEVER grow old because when you get to 25ish, you have to die aka bladerunner, because you are spent...
A PROUND WARTY ARSED, BALD FAT GREASY POTBELLIED MINGER...
Hear hear, Rocky.
Hugs, Alex x x
(Old Minger and proud of it)
Dont get me wrong I am NOT upset. I just think it is a sign of youth that shows up the lack of thoughts of being one of lifes ex beautiful people? Imagine if you awoke one day to find you had allopechea ( if spelt wrong sorry ) ,and all your hair fell out, or that you somehow sufferd some accident where you got scarred or disfigured...would you then go and kill yourself because you were NOT desireable? It is FINE to have a liking for your own self and wishes, but remember what Alex said, sometime in your life, you will suddenly realise you are no longer being drooled over and cavorted...what then do you do? Inside NEVER grows ols, and althought the outside shell AMY look like a morris minor, the engine is well in order and has years of life...
Just be concious that you are not one to one here, and what seems to you to be hip, trendy and the in thing to some can be seen as offensive? Maybe you shouldl think next time and not be like the alligator... Big mouth and little ears?
Well punky
Haven't U ever heard Marylin Mansons' "The Beautiful People". Would you bar disabled peolpe too? Never mind us able bodied swingers. Just goes to show how fekkin shallow U R. Up yours! :moon:
I must admit I didn't know quite what to make of this - maybe it was just a windup - can someone really be that conceited?
As for Richard and I - we're still just in our 20s - 29 this year - and first went swinging at a party at age 26. I mentioned this in another post, we were the only people there under 30.
The thing is, swinging takes maturity and confidence in yourself and your relationships that younger people rarely have.
I know plenty of young guys who would love to shag me, but when it comes to Richard shagging their "birds" it makes them think again.
"Older" people are more mature.
And it must be said, more experienced.
A young guy of 25 maybe living wth someone for the first time, balanced against a man of 35 or 40 who has had plenty of experience - years of experience and practice - with his partner and various lovers, who REALLY knows what he's doing, I'll take the "mature" option every time.
In fact my first time at a swing party I was taken very directly, and gently, by a man in his early forties, an experienced swinger and it was a great introduction. A "Boy" of my own age, slobberng and over-keen would have been the opposite of what I wanted and needed.
Of course he enjoyd having a supple, pretty young girl to do it with, and most of the guys we swing with are open enough to admit that, but I could appreciate an older guy who knows what he's doing as well.
To be honest, if Punky and friend are really as good looking as they think, and really are models/dancers/strippers, they wouldn't have any problem finding willing good looking people on the scene they already frequent.
The fact that they are here indicates otherwise.
Of course, it's always good to give people the benefit of the doubt, so maybe a pic on their profile or a reason why not would clear up any doubt either way.
Rachel
have a "physical attraction report" feature; they basically show you a bunch of photos and facial features, asks you to choose which ones you prefer (okay, it's a bit more involved than that), and then the computer tells you what kind of person you'd find most attractive.
IIRC, mine told me to look for a 6ft black woman...
According to , I am a good physical match for myself.
No, really! :doh:
All this "younger better looking class of people"...apart from all the other objections here in this thread (I agree with them all) , how typically English this is, dividing everyone and everything up into classes.
Mike.
) - maybe even I am too old to be admitted to your club??? :shock: 
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