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1 day ago
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Warming the Bed
Looking for somewhere suitable for taking a curious and very attractive lady friend.........
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If by the most extreme and improbable possibility there are any couples or females who would appreciate the company of a 46yo, 6' tall, dark haired professional male with a fairly kinky and pretty broad background in having fun with sex..... let me know! Profile has me down as a Dom, but that is very much optional, as it says. I don't bite. Nibble, lick, suck, of course, but no biting. :-)
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So it did work.... good!
But a new couple might be even more put off by being the centre of a brawl, had one developed?
Chacun a son gout. But the consensus seems to be for a middle ground.... don't ignore it, but best not just to wade in arms swinging....
But a new couple might be even more put off by being the centre of a brawl, had one developed?
Chacun a son gout. But the consensus seems to be for a middle ground.... don't ignore it, but best not just to wade in arms swinging....
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"no such thing as simple answers"
Who ever said there were?
"disturb the show and risk the couple upping sticks and going home, with you becoming "Mr Spoilsport" to the rest of the guys who were enjoying it"
Well, here it is judging their right not to be photographed against the continuation of your own pleasures. And frankly I'd favour the former and hope that anyone you might care about the opinions of would do the same. Knowing someone was keeping an eye out might have benefits in the long run, nyet?
Who ever said there were?
"disturb the show and risk the couple upping sticks and going home, with you becoming "Mr Spoilsport" to the rest of the guys who were enjoying it"
Well, here it is judging their right not to be photographed against the continuation of your own pleasures. And frankly I'd favour the former and hope that anyone you might care about the opinions of would do the same. Knowing someone was keeping an eye out might have benefits in the long run, nyet?
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OK, you did ask.... so I feel free to reply at some length.
For starters, I wouldn't get out the furry handcuffs and spank 'em, so the Dom bit is probably irrelevant.
More to the point is that I am a big lad, with quite a few years of weights and martial arts (Shaolin jokes aside, it is a useful skill to have). So what would *I* do?
Well, firstly I have flagged myself as a non-dogger, so any comments are theoretical. In reality I would probably be at home in the warm, and maybe in the chatroom (from where I came into this in the first place and where I spend a lot more time than on the forum).
But I have to agree with the earlier post- a hoodie with a camera phone is likely to think he'll get Hollywood style shots with his half-megapixel plastic lens. He won't. The human eye is a lot more capable of low light work than a camera phone, and a car interior light is actually very dim indeed, however it looks in the dark. Unless he uses a flash or floods he'll get something looking like the contents of a wet ashtray. And if he uses a flash the argument against being sneaky sort of goes, doesn't it?
So even if I believed he was intruding, I'd ask myself how effectively he was doing it.
Second, as a martial artist another tenet is "never start it, always finish it", and I am afraid that applies. Sure, if I was in that situation, my most likely reaction is to make enough of a fuss that everyone was alerted, and I would certainly want to alert the "performers" (as was my vote on this one). But no, I would not start a brawl over it. If one started, I would do what I had to, but I would not swing the first punch. And if one did start I would remain well aware that a hoodie may well think it clever to carry a knife, one blow of which can do a lot of harm.
Of course, if I was planning such an event the silly string approach might work. But generally I tend to favour the "hard words, softly spoken" approach.
And (at the risk of making myself unpopular) there are risks in choosing this particular hobby- and not just boredom waiting for something to happen. A parachutist accepts increased risks, so does a scuba diver (I've done both, before you ask). And so does a dogger. Being photograhed is one risk (or we wouldn't be having this debate), and here the "expectation of privacy" argument is very relevant. This is not a private activity, otherwise everyone would be at home with the heating on. And of course there are worse things that can happen in dark laybys than being photographed.
"No photographs" is etiquette, not law.
"No violence" is law, not etiquette.
And there is at base that general assumption that taking photographs of what happens in public is legally acceptable.
So if I WERE there, then I would make it clear what was happening, and ... register any objections. Not take the first swing.
As to the lawyers, there is not a law yet created that can't be debated- the Ten Commandments included, I am afraid. Coveting your neighbour's ass, anyone?
For starters, I wouldn't get out the furry handcuffs and spank 'em, so the Dom bit is probably irrelevant.
More to the point is that I am a big lad, with quite a few years of weights and martial arts (Shaolin jokes aside, it is a useful skill to have). So what would *I* do?
Well, firstly I have flagged myself as a non-dogger, so any comments are theoretical. In reality I would probably be at home in the warm, and maybe in the chatroom (from where I came into this in the first place and where I spend a lot more time than on the forum).
But I have to agree with the earlier post- a hoodie with a camera phone is likely to think he'll get Hollywood style shots with his half-megapixel plastic lens. He won't. The human eye is a lot more capable of low light work than a camera phone, and a car interior light is actually very dim indeed, however it looks in the dark. Unless he uses a flash or floods he'll get something looking like the contents of a wet ashtray. And if he uses a flash the argument against being sneaky sort of goes, doesn't it?
So even if I believed he was intruding, I'd ask myself how effectively he was doing it.
Second, as a martial artist another tenet is "never start it, always finish it", and I am afraid that applies. Sure, if I was in that situation, my most likely reaction is to make enough of a fuss that everyone was alerted, and I would certainly want to alert the "performers" (as was my vote on this one). But no, I would not start a brawl over it. If one started, I would do what I had to, but I would not swing the first punch. And if one did start I would remain well aware that a hoodie may well think it clever to carry a knife, one blow of which can do a lot of harm.
Of course, if I was planning such an event the silly string approach might work. But generally I tend to favour the "hard words, softly spoken" approach.
And (at the risk of making myself unpopular) there are risks in choosing this particular hobby- and not just boredom waiting for something to happen. A parachutist accepts increased risks, so does a scuba diver (I've done both, before you ask). And so does a dogger. Being photograhed is one risk (or we wouldn't be having this debate), and here the "expectation of privacy" argument is very relevant. This is not a private activity, otherwise everyone would be at home with the heating on. And of course there are worse things that can happen in dark laybys than being photographed.
"No photographs" is etiquette, not law.
"No violence" is law, not etiquette.
And there is at base that general assumption that taking photographs of what happens in public is legally acceptable.
So if I WERE there, then I would make it clear what was happening, and ... register any objections. Not take the first swing.
As to the lawyers, there is not a law yet created that can't be debated- the Ten Commandments included, I am afraid. Coveting your neighbour's ass, anyone?
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No pyjama fighter... merely a contributor, and far from Shaolin standard.
The issue I am addressing is that anyone taking option 4- "Stop it no matter what the cost" is putting themselves at risk. I am entirely in favour of etiquette and would not dream of doing what these.... people.... did. Round here the local papers are full of such a group filming the result of a fatal crash on their phones while rescuers did their best to help the victims. The filmers stayed until they were chased off. A bit more offensive, I think you will agree.
But getting arrested for affray is not a good way to end an otherwise pleasant evening. I'm sure all would agree on that.
Of course, spraying a camera lens with silly string, soap, or even paint would not seem to constitute assault......... criminal damage, maybe. But as you say, the legal lines are rarely observed with precision in such a situation.
The issue I am addressing is that anyone taking option 4- "Stop it no matter what the cost" is putting themselves at risk. I am entirely in favour of etiquette and would not dream of doing what these.... people.... did. Round here the local papers are full of such a group filming the result of a fatal crash on their phones while rescuers did their best to help the victims. The filmers stayed until they were chased off. A bit more offensive, I think you will agree.
But getting arrested for affray is not a good way to end an otherwise pleasant evening. I'm sure all would agree on that.
Of course, spraying a camera lens with silly string, soap, or even paint would not seem to constitute assault......... criminal damage, maybe. But as you say, the legal lines are rarely observed with precision in such a situation.
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The key here appears to be the "reasonable expectation of privacy". While doggers have set rules, the location is public by all normal understandings. Thus filming is a breach of etiquette, but almost certainly not a breach of law.
The law on use of force relates to "reasonable force" in response to a threat (as a martial artist I have had many briefings on that). Using a camera phone is not threatening in and of itself. Of course if they are asked to stop and respond with threatening behaviour that MAY change matters, but to initiate a physical assault is in breach of UK law unless there is clear and immediate threat, and even then must be a "reasonable" response.
So, maybe another approach is needed, but it seems to be a real risk involved in dogging. And one the Sunday papers have been doing for a while.
A non-dogger......
The law on use of force relates to "reasonable force" in response to a threat (as a martial artist I have had many briefings on that). Using a camera phone is not threatening in and of itself. Of course if they are asked to stop and respond with threatening behaviour that MAY change matters, but to initiate a physical assault is in breach of UK law unless there is clear and immediate threat, and even then must be a "reasonable" response.
So, maybe another approach is needed, but it seems to be a real risk involved in dogging. And one the Sunday papers have been doing for a while.
A non-dogger......
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I know a couple who seem quite keen to put the A6 layby (yes, Hanratty..... that one) into use. Not sure how much goes on there. And as with all these locations, any that get posted are the ones that get "hassled by the squares, man".
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I spent quite some time a couple of years back trying to arrange a first FFM for a then lady friend who was "curious" but wanted me to handle the.... operational side of things. We did get an MMF going and even found the elusive single bi-fem- but that contact didn't develop beyond social meetings.
Just to say, from personal experience, it can happen.
Just to say, from personal experience, it can happen.
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...continuing the biblical theme......
Surely this should be a non-judgemental forum? What people do with their own lives is up to them- no outsider can know the drivers and situations.
After all, many people in the big wide world would be happy to judge anyone in here as "bad" just by nature of their very presence in such a forum, no?
? Nah.... not worth it.
Surely this should be a non-judgemental forum? What people do with their own lives is up to them- no outsider can know the drivers and situations.
After all, many people in the big wide world would be happy to judge anyone in here as "bad" just by nature of their very presence in such a forum, no?
? Nah.... not worth it. 
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Believe me, sharron, saying you are a woman who loves sex and is looking for no strings fun is not going to upset many single men! Even couples have trouble finding the "elusive single bi-fem"...... 
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... and curses upon - but the passcode came through in the end and I am in!
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I keep getting my told my nick is not registered (it is, and has worked for quite a while). Even when I try to register a new one I cant get in.. "erroneous characters"!
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Mayday...........
Been a happy user of the chatroom for quite a while, but now every time I try to join I get told I have been "autokilled by jinxi- still not quite in touch with reality, are ya?"....
Lovely.... smug AND insulting.
Any thought on how to get round this?? Even trying to register a new nickname gets the same irritating message.....
Been a happy user of the chatroom for quite a while, but now every time I try to join I get told I have been "autokilled by jinxi- still not quite in touch with reality, are ya?"....
Lovely.... smug AND insulting.
Any thought on how to get round this?? Even trying to register a new nickname gets the same irritating message.....
