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Rob_hood
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 72
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Is it ok to mention the ((( I ))) word out loud and in public now? dunno:grin:
Kaz,
You should hang your left wing head in shame! lol
"Oohhh, Ye Traiter Ye" (as barry fitzgerald said in 'The Quiet Man')
You've just committed a Cardinal sin by having a debate with someone from the BNP. :lol:
In the spirit of Detente, I promiss i won't call you ma'am again - ever.
That,I fear, would be taking things too far (my dear).:giggle:
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Quote by Kaznkev

The EDL are simply the NF under a new flag imo,and anyone who stands up to them is fighting the good fight .

The NF and the UAF are not legitimate political partys.
They are both a bunch of politically motivated thugs.
The BNP is a legitimate political party with 2 elected MEP's and nearly 1 million people voted for them in the European will also debate any topic with anyone.
If other political partys choose not to debate with the BNP then it is they that are undemocratic.
The BNP has no time for thug tactics or people who side with those who take part in them from either side.


Racist thugs who have an oxford educated frontman are still racist thugs.
Kaz,
we are on opposite sides. Ok, You cast your vote and i will cast mine.
I still like your avatar though.
My compliments ma'am.
kiss
Quote by Kaznkev
The EDL are simply the NF under a new flag imo,and anyone who stands up to them is fighting the good fight .

The NF and the UAF are not legitimate political partys.
They are both a bunch of politically motivated thugs.
The BNP is a legitimate political party with 2 elected MEP's and nearly 1 million people voted for them in the European will also debate any topic with anyone.
If other political partys choose not to debate with the BNP then it is they that are undemocratic.
The BNP has no time for thug tactics or people who side with those who take part in them from either side.
The last i heard there were still people stranded in Thailand following the 'Volcanic Ash' saga.
They must be feeling even more vulnerable with the escalating street violence there.
What, i wonder, is the Foreign Office doing to help them as there has been no news of their plight?
The FO has warned people not to go to Thailand which may be sage advice to would be visitors to Thailand but what of the people stuck there?
Is life in Eire any better than in the UK? Is their economy likely to go the same way as that of Greece and other failing Euro member states and how long until countrys start baling out of the European Union when the burden of carrying their fellow member states gets to much to bear?
Imo,
The European Union will eventually fail. and i would like the UK to be out of it well before it does.
Quote by leprechaun
serious trouble seems to be looming ahead on the streets of britain and it makes me wonder how long it will be until the first shots are fired or the Petrol bombs fly?
Sadly,It doesn't look good now does it?

you mention Manchester in some of your posts above i attended as part of my wish to photograph social history what i seen that was to sides at odds i seen 1 side lay it's cards on the tables and say what they were about the other played cloak and dagger claiming 1 thing but showed themselves in the shadows to be what they were about
let me open the statement above the UAF Unite Against Fascism they are what they say on the the tin
EDL English Defence League against the turning of the UK into a Islamic state they are not racist etc. etc. really I watched this group of individuals listened to them and I'm sorry there fascia is in truth a cover for an alliance of football hooligans who can't find the thrill of the war on the terraces any more and have banded under this claim to be loyal subjects wishing to defending from the invading masses 2 million of this country are Muslim of them very few wish for a Muslim state (i can see the reason for mass demos etc) so i question why splinters of this group known members who are non racist would wonder round chanting racist slogans and when a group of 40 plus seen 5 asian youths (minding there business) turned and hunted them like a pack of dogs the only thing to save these lads were they tuned the right way and ran through lines of police officers
if the EDL are so proud of this country and there allegiance to Great Britain it openness and fair play why did they see any 1 with cameras press badges etc. as the enemy i thought freedom of the press was part of the cornerstone of this country UAF have no issues with the media or cameras been around
i also found a lot of the individuals from the EDL proved themselves to be very homophobic and some what miss guided as having long hair quantified been gay and or a so god forbid what such pure breeds would think of us as a community
oh by the way I'm Irish and have been on the end of racism in the 70's and 80's
feel free to question what is written this is a 1st hand account of what happened in Manchester
these people are why there is no pride. this country is caught in the shame that st pats day is a far bigger event that St Georges day because the right wing be it BNP EDL or football hooligans has this countries hung low I would love for the average English Joe John or Peter to stand up and reclaim there identity. this country would not be what it is if it weren't for migrants and as for them taking the jobs of english and people noting long term unemployed (career dole merchants) these won't take the jobs a lot of these migrants take 'they are above there station' who have been feral as families for generations now living of the state and blaming everyone else but themselves
give me the big melting pot that is my life in this country where I'm comfortable working, living and socialising with English Irish black Asian European Gay straight bi confused those who are run of the mill and those who follow alternative lifestyles (what is so bad with this as a way of life)
Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong. They claim that culture is created by collective national society and its state

UAF are a mix of people who have there own identities who follow many different lifestyles and come from different communities the majority are white who are anti war
Facist?????? i will leave it to others to make there own mind up
love peace and respect
You sound as though you came straight out of the 'Crying Game'.
wink
I feel that the UAF are the Militant arm of the Labour party and You seem to regard the EDL as the militant arm of the BNP.
Both groups of Hotheads and their antics are not wanted on our streets.
Imo, Riotous demonostrations are not the way. All they achieve is more conflict and you, of all people, having experienced extreme social conflict 'over the water' must know this all too well. I saw a year of it over there in the early 70's.
These days there is a working accord between those former and bitter enemys,
which i hope lasts and i can only hope that The UK does not have to go through that to achieve the same result.
The best and only way is for everyone to make their opinions count by casting their vote in the ballot box.
I am going to enjoy seeing Brown trying to weave and turn away from the marauding claws of clegg and cameron in a vain attempt to avoid being dragged to the ground and having a bared set of fangs close in on his political neck, thus ending the kill (and his career).
Or am i being bigoted?
Quote by Phuckers
Gordon has no one to blame but himself,he didnt give that straight talking northerner chance to full express herself,how dare he call her a bigot....damn Griffin and his lot are rubbing there hands in glee

We are.
:thrilled::giggle::thumbup:
Imagine if he had called her a racist because of her objection to "people from eastern european countrys cominng here" instead of (or as well as) a bigot?
To some people, anyone who questions the topic of Immigration Is a racist and he may well have said it if that lady was not a labour supporter.
I know there is a clear definition between the words but the interpretation gets a bit blurred depending on which side of the political pendulum you swing.
All i can say is,
Thanks for the extra BNP votes Gordon :thumbup:
Quote by swcpl2005
Dare to challenge Liebour on their policies, especially immigration and you get branded a bigot. What this lady said was perfectly reasonable and is a view held my millions in this country. Are we all bigots too?
It just goes to show what utter contempt Brown has for the general public and anyone who has the temerity to share a contrary view to his own, especially when the cameras are there.
He claims to be a man of substance over style, who doesn't attack personalities, being an honest, hard-working, son of the manse who is just "getting on with the job" but today showed his true colours. This unelected and unelectable bully has no place representing the people of Great Britain.
Let's see Mandelslime spin his way out of this one.

When The PM said that there were the same number of Brits working in Europe as European were coming here,He forgot to admit that the brits are mainly professionals or people in skilled trades. which is contrasted by the unskilled majority from Eastern Europe that are flocking here.
Hardly a fair swap is it?
I recently watched the film,'KES' again.
What a difference to today's methods of teacher control of their class rooms.
I have also visited 'Blists Hill' near Telford where there is a Victorian Village c/w people in Character. There is a School c/w Headmaster who conducted a lesson as it was in Victorian times to seated modern day boys and girls. His authoritive manner, to my surprise, invoked instant obedience and discipline in those children.
They were shocked when they were shown and learned what the Cane and Strap were and for what,how where they would be applied.
I would not have believed it had i not been there to see it.
What a revelation.
Clearly this teacher crossed the line.
I wonder how many other teachers have come close to physically losing it with a 'disruptive' student?
Thanks for the tip, I will as i managed somehow to miss it all when it first went out.
I love stuff like this and i was and still am a fan of 'House of Cards' with Ian Richardson, (although you might think that,I couldn't possibly say it) lol
Is this to be the Killer 'Own Goal' that will cost him and Labour a lot of votes in the coming election?
That lady had every right to ask those questions and it is a treat to see a Politician twisting and turning like a slippery Eel to get off the hook.
Great reallity tv.. lol
Quote by jdwxxx
Labour

You aren't being bigoted are you Corrie? lol
Now thats satire
Ive been watching the comedy satire series 'Absolute Power' on tv.
What a Master class in satire tuition.
Must be rubbing off. :lol:
Quote by varca
I base it on the evidence of the fascist activitys of the UAF at every opportunity that we have all seen on the tv.
The latest example is of the UAF protesting outside the BBC about the BNP's right to have their party political broadcast on tv just like any other UK party.
This is Left Wing Fascism.
All it takes is for right wing millitant hot heads to respond in kind to left millitant hotheads, on a bigger scale, to see major civil disturbances on the streets of our UK towns and Citys, not unlike those we are seeing in Bankok now.
This style of political warfare 'by other means' will no doubt escalate in the future.
'Volcano Politics' indeed

Ah so you watched snippets of footage of the Bolton and Manchester demos on the news did you? And from that you were able to ascertain that the UAF were the bad guys? Hmmmm.... well actually as usual the media 'cherry pick' what to show and as usual they never show the full story. A friend of mine was at the Manchester rally as a photographer and was there all day and I watched the Bolton one on a live webfeed all day and how the media portrayed the UAF is not how it was at all! My friend has photographic evidence of fellow photographers being attacked by dogs!
At Bolton The UAF were kettled in and entrances to Victoria Square were blocked to UAF supporters preventing them from joining the demo. Whereas all of the EDL were let in! Police in riot gear lashed out at protesters with their truncheons for no apparent reason and dogs were set upon people, again for no reason! 50ish of these people were then arrested, again the majority of which for no reason other than to complain about not being able to enter the Square, an area which had been designated for them!
Any trouble was without doubt down to the way everything was handled by the police.
Why would the media or any member of the NUJ show or report anything that would show the BNP in anything but a bad light?
The UAF have shown themselves in a bad light by their actions so don't bleat on as though the UAF are poor little innocents because they are not.
The Police have not always been as prompt and as efficient in their duties as they should have been especially out side Westminster when Nick Griffen was attacked by organised UAF Thugs.

How come that no one from the UAF got prosecuted?
If the UAF or any other group behave in this way they will be policed
(if not,it seems, prosecuted) accordingly.
I was in Blackpool last June and saw for myself how the UAF conducts it are a lot of angry, tinder dry, people on both sides and serious trouble seems to be looming ahead on the streets of britain and it makes me wonder how long it will be until the first shots are fired or the Petrol bombs fly?
Sadly,It doesn't look good now does it?
Money!
Oh, how vulgar. One never mentions money or even carries it about one's person, does one?
Oh,You do?
Is it important to ones peasentry?
It is?
How tiresome.
Now be orf before one instructs ones groundsmen to loose the hounds.
rolleyes
I'm getting fed up with all of them now and i empathise with the chap who walked into an antique shop in London.
After looking around for a while, he noticed a very life-like bronze statue of a rat. It had no price tag, but it was so striking that he decided to buy it anyway.
He took it to the owner and said: ‘How much is this bronze rat?’
The owner replied: ‘It’s £25 for the rat, and £100 for the story.’
The fellow gave the owner his £25 and said, ‘I’ll just take the rat, you can keep the story!’
As he walked off down the street, he noticed that a few real rats had crawled out of the drains and had begun following him. This was a little disconcerting, so he started to walk a little faster, but within a couple of minutes, the swarm of rats had formed into three main packs and they were all squealing and screeching in a very menacing way.
He increased his speed and ran on towards the river and as he ran, he looked behind him and saw the rats now numbered in their HUNDREDS, and they were running faster and faster. By now, very concerned, he ran down to the water's edge and threw the bronze rat as far out into the river as he could.
Amazingly, the hundreds of real rats jumped into the water after it and were all drowned.
The man walked back to relate all this to the shop owner, who said, ‘Ah, you’ve come back for the story then?’
‘ No’ said the bloke, ‘I came back to see if you’ve got a bronze Politician.
wink
Quote by Kaznkev
As an immigrant family, who's ancestors came over with the Normans, I would respectfully request that the "anti Norman" brigade withdraw their racist remarks., wink

bloody normans oppressing us celts ,why dont you go back where you came from!:giggle:
I love this theme.
lol :lol: :lol:
How about a History abridged debate in Character between;
Julius Ceasar (Roman-Euro Dom party),
William (Norman party)
Boudica (Iceni-Early Brit party)
ohh ohh can i be boudica please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If our second child had been a girl that was going to be her middle name.i realise i am not iceni but i can do accents!And i know its historically inaccurate but can i wear this?

<<<<<<<<<<<runs off to find trident and spear
Yes, Go on then Kaz if you want to but do tidy your self up a bit, Put on a lick of wode and Wear a clean pair of knickers in case you have an accident.
:giggle:
Other 3 party debate speakers could feature ..............
I base it on the evidence of the fascist activitys of the UAF at every opportunity that we have all seen on the tv.
The latest example is of the UAF protesting outside the BBC about the BNP's right to have their party political broadcast on tv just like any other UK party.
This is Left Wing Fascism.
All it takes is for right wing millitant hot heads to respond in kind to left millitant hotheads, on a bigger scale, to see major civil disturbances on the streets of our UK towns and Citys, not unlike those we are seeing in Bankok now.
This style of political warfare 'by other means' will no doubt escalate in the future.
'Volcano Politics' indeed
Judging by how wound up all the main partys are about the BNP suggests that they are genuinely afraid of their growing support in the UK and with good reason which is why they all signed up with the real Fascists, The UAF.
The BNP don't do irony? Fascism had it roots in Socialism. How's that for Irony?
There is also such a thing as Liberal Fascism.

I would never wish to interfere with the culture of others.
What then if others tried to interfere with your culture?
Quote by Kaznkev
As an immigrant family, who's ancestors came over with the Normans, I would respectfully request that the "anti Norman" brigade withdraw their racist remarks., wink

bloody normans oppressing us celts ,why dont you go back where you came from!:giggle:
I love this theme.
lol :lol: :lol:
How about a History abridged debate in Character between;
Julius Ceasar (Roman-Euro Dom party),
William (Norman party)
Boudica (Iceni-Early Brit party)
Other 3 party debate speakers could feature ....
King Charles 1st ('My way is above the Law' party)
Oliver Cromwell ('I'll sort that posh git out' party)
Winstone Churchhill( 'British National' party)
Did anyone else enjoy a nice warm glow of Schadenfreude when that Bull Minced that Matador?
It felt good to know that the Bull got one in before they killed it.
lol :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:
Note to self:
Double check any and everything before i bin it for any information or documents that someone could use against my interests.
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Yaknow my dad would read these forum and say why dont u all stop whinging and shag each other rigid. Randy wise man my father.
Seriously tho the fears of incomers swamping the nation probably go back 400 years its never as bad as its made out. Of course who ever worried about the Norman invasion probably said I told you so.

With the invasion of the Normans and the way they changed the established way of life then the Brits, would have had to say 'I told you so' under their breath for fear of upsetting the French speaking Norman invading conquerers.
Many of the freedoms we take for granted today will be gone in our childrens life time if the UK becomes an Islamic state c/w Sharia Law.
I do not want that to happen-ever.
It will happen because of our own apathy to stop it. Open your eyes and take a good look around at the changes that have already happened and know that more are coming.
Do you want someone in the future to be saying 'I told you so' after it is too late?