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1: The Birthday Party - Junkyard
2: Scott Walker - Scott 2 or The Drift (depends on what day it is)
3: Marvin Gaye - What's going on
4: Barry Adamson - The murky world of Barry Adamson
5:BeBop delux - Sunburst finish
6: David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
7: The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
8: Bjork - Post
9: The Boo Radleys - Giant steps
10: Every other album I like .... ten isn't enough
Sex God
Oh dear, expecting some degree of social justice really doesn't equate to moaning about the unfairness of the world. I fully agree that people should take responsibility for their lives... I believe (and have done for many years ) that the way they should do this, is to band together and tear down the walls of our Mammon worshipping plutocracy and institute a genuine democracy lead by and for the majority ...I believe in short that the vast majority of people are not greedy ignorant self serving cunts .... Just it would seem those who would rule us
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Ner ner ne nerner my bete noir is worse than your bete noir ... what utter bollocks
why Do Conservatives Lie ?
We are ruled by a cabal of wealthy white middle class men and on the whole always have been. This cabal have no interest in disturbing the status quo . The Tories manoeuvre to further polarize the nation .The labour party make noises to redress the balance but haven't since Michael Foots' leadership even looked like they might enact any policy to do this. There has been a class war fought in this country since the 70's and the Tories have all but won it, parliamentary politics does not offer the working classes a solution to their problems and will not until those in charge are forced to pay attention .The unions offer a solution (yes even now) offering the working classes a means of protest and organising that protest the alternatives would I suggest be far less palatable to our 'rulers'
Thatcher and Scargill are both deeply flawed self serving individuals but so have been many of our greatest leaders .... I would suggest that the best way to judge a politician is look what they're aiming at and not necessarily at whether or not they hit it.
Why do POLITICIANS lie ... because we fail to make it in their best interests not to .. Simple
why Do Conservatives Lie ?
We are ruled by a cabal of wealthy white middle class men and on the whole always have been. This cabal have no interest in disturbing the status quo . The Tories manoeuvre to further polarize the nation .The labour party make noises to redress the balance but haven't since Michael Foots' leadership even looked like they might enact any policy to do this. There has been a class war fought in this country since the 70's and the Tories have all but won it, parliamentary politics does not offer the working classes a solution to their problems and will not until those in charge are forced to pay attention .The unions offer a solution (yes even now) offering the working classes a means of protest and organising that protest the alternatives would I suggest be far less palatable to our 'rulers'
Thatcher and Scargill are both deeply flawed self serving individuals but so have been many of our greatest leaders .... I would suggest that the best way to judge a politician is look what they're aiming at and not necessarily at whether or not they hit it.
Why do POLITICIANS lie ... because we fail to make it in their best interests not to .. Simple
Sex God
Quote by Lizaleanrob
Why do nationalised industries have to be profitable?
they don't!! but would that not take much needed monies from other resources, in order for them to be viable surly they must at least break even
and welcome back staggers
That would be breaking even then .. not profitable ... I was just curious
Oh and I believe someone mentioned the N.H.S. (not you) ... The healthn of the nation is NOT a business and should not be treated as such , just saying
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Quote by MidsCouple24
Nationalised industries that never turned a profit, what like British Airways, British Gas, British Telecom, the electricity companies, the water companies never did! Oop's my mistake, suddenly remembered they did, loads and loads of profit. As did the tote and Stenna Sealink and Gleneagles Hotel.
Sarcasm does nothing for debate, were the tote, stenna Sealink and the Gleneagles Hotel Nationalised Industries, did they make vast profits or are you being sarcastic ? I honestly don't know what your saying here, it is unclear if your stating facts or being cynical ? not everyone in this debate knows all the details please enlighten us.
Sarcasm is sometimes (and this is one of those times) the only appropriate way to address such ridiculous blatant lies
Modus operandii for Tory and unfortunately Labour (but mostly Tory) selling of the family silver ..
Sack as many people as possible
Make the industry as difficult to run as possible
Reduce profits by whatever means you can get away with
Sell as cheaply as possible to your buddies at whatever investment bank you've already paid billions to for "advice"
Watch as your family "trust" rakes in millions for you use on your retirement
Refuse to even address the fact that the now privatised industry requires billions more in public grants than were ever spent on it whilst it was publicly miserably to ignore the fact that the now private industry pays millions to it's executives (that's you Branson you thieving cunt)whilst they moan about how unprofitable their new cash cow is and how they need even more government investment to prevent them from having to walk away from the business with pockets full and the public suffering
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I must say that the standard of fact checking by some posters has declined considerably since I used to post here ... unions holding the country to ransom ! .. my arse , I think you mean protecting the interests of their members which at the time represented a large proportion of the population ,or do you mean stopping government destroying the working classes ?
Either way since the dismantling of the unions and a working class power base the country (for all but a lucky elite) has gone tits up
Vive la revolution ... the sooner the better .. I know where I'll be on the day
Either way since the dismantling of the unions and a working class power base the country (for all but a lucky elite) has gone tits up
Vive la revolution ... the sooner the better .. I know where I'll be on the day
Sex God
Earlier this year I was diagnosed with C.O.P.D. it will probably kill me ........ I would recommend stopping smoking
Sex God
Actually sarcasm requires a rather sophisticated understanding of both language and circumstance ... Those who struggle to understand it often demonstrate just how sophisticated and nuanced it is
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Quote by Too Hot
We are easily fooled into believing that this is all the fault of the Western Crusaders.
And I certainly never intended to suggest that it is ..... It is however naive to think that the we are innocent and American post war behaviour in the middle east leave a lot to be desired and there are grievances that run a lot deeper than the fog of religion that we're fed to cloud our judgement
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And why do these people become radicalised ?What leaves them believing the only answer is to strap on a bomb.... I don't know if you're missing the point or choosing not to address it ....We are repeatedly told by government and media that these people are religious fanatics that their religion is why they act as they do ... We are rarely if ever informed of any political motive , it is never mentioned that there may well be a reason why the Muslim east may feel threatened by us...I mean we've never prosecuted any illegal wars against them for the most tenuous or even fabricated reasons have we
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Quote by MidsCouple24
Possibly an aside but can anyone name any terrorists who have quoted their religion as the reason for their actions rather than western foreign policy ?
It strikes me that rather than jumping to conclusions about radical religious belief we should start to address the reasons why people might become radicalised
Definetely an "aside" I think.
Whislt I do not believe that all terrorism or violence of this nature has religious groundings, there is no doubt that secretarian violence exists and to deny it is naive to say the least.
Take the situation in Northern Ireland, yes the IRA came about because they did not like the British presence and influence in Ireland but religion became a tool, a weapon and a reason for some of the violence there.
No Protestant would feel safe or would be safe announcing his religion in the Creggan, Turf Lodge, Falls or Bogside, no Catholic would feel safe announcing his religion in the waterside etc.
Violence would have been inflicted soley on the persons religion not on their reason for being there, their nationality or colour.
Their religious beliefs may not have been the reason for the conflict but it certainly came into it.
Many Muslim terrorists quote the will of allah as a reason for violence whilst more Muslims quote allah as a reason for peace.
Religion in the past has divided armies and peoples bringing them into conflict, check out the targets of the crusades for example.
Religion has divided Nations, United nations and brought Nations into conflict with other nations, how often did religion come into the equation of our wars with Spain and France ? they may often be used as labels or excuses by the powers that be but many of those that fought believed they were doing so for religious reasons and not the greed of governments, rulers and politictians.
The thing is that non of the examples you give answer the question ..... the I.R.A. had political not religious motives, that crossed the sectarian divide , search David Russell for example
I used to work with an old bloke from Glasgow who spent his youth having to answer whether he was a 'billy' or a 'dan'....the people asking him were not terrorists
Yes there is the question of Jihad in the world of muslim terrorists BUT I don't know of an example where this is qouted as the reason for any act, messages left and questioning of terrorists as far as I'm aware state quite specific political reasons and aims for their actions
To write off the many many 'terrorist' groups around the world as religious fanatics whose aim is to reach paradise is a cop out .It fails to address and avoids the very real issues that are being protested, so why are these muslims being radicalised ? Do you really think the promise of martydom is enough? I know it wouldn't be for me.
P.S. I know I said it was an aside but I think he issue of religious radicalisation was mentioned earlier in the thread ... I was just bringing it back round. (in edit ... My bad it must have been elsewhere,nevertheless it's here now
Sex God
Oh dear I had expected more from you that a hissy fit and toy/pram ejection scenario ....
I don't really think I need say anymore
I don't really think I need say anymore
Sex God
one search, 30 seconds, 4th link ..... 97% seems fairly comprehensive to me; so whether you or anyone else 'thinks' it true or not it would appear that those who actually have some chance of 'knowing' (all that studying and stuff) disagree with you
Now I'm an avowed athiest , but I really hope that when I die ,if I should happen to find myself standing infront of a large set of pearly gates I wont still be saying that all that God stuff is just the work of a bunch of medieval fantasists..... it would just look a bit foolish
oh and by the way ..... OBLATE SPHEROID
Sex God
Use the pay at the pump option .... many give you the chance to take only a certain amount and stop delivering fuel when that amount has been reached
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, snipers, what football needs is snipers
Sex God
Quote by gulsonroad30664
Because the case for climate change is not being made by government -most if not all of whom are in the pockets of oil companies,who's interests aren't served by the debate- but by Scientists : the idea that climate change is a revenue/warmongering construct is contradictory to say the least
climate change equals carbon tax equals revenue
scientists who's research is being funded by goldman sachs ref "east anglia university corrupting data to show global warming when the earth is actually cooling"
goldman sachs owns the first trading desk in chicago that trades in carbon tax offsets
governments put carbon taxes on your energy bills
international oil companies pay very little tax but collect it on behalf of governments.
the sun and its cycles (solar cycles) has infinitely more effect on global temperatures and pails mans consumption of carbon fuels effect into insignificance by comparison.
the reduction in consumption worldwide of carbon based fossil fuels due to the worldwide downturn in activity due to the economic crisis (approx 30%) is far greater than the change to more greaner energy.
the case for climate change is not being made by governments ? really staggers, you amaze me.
if you take a continent like africa and reduce its carbon footprint, you will commit mass genocide.
So on the strength of one company allegedly funding one research project you condemn all the other scientists working in the field ?? Well so much for balanced reasoned argument .....
Governments pay lip service to the idea of carbon taxes whilst charging to grab any remaining fossil fuel;,Iraq,Afghanistan,and Libya are Cases in point not fought for any reasons of climate change but in the rush to grab oil,you've heard of Haliburton I'm sure,so who holds the reins ??Goldman Sachs? Haliburton? Some shadowy figure who can not be named??
Yes government likes an excuse to tax something ... this in no way discredits those many scientists/climatologists who believe mankind is having a severely detrimental effect on the planets climate .I strongly suggest you look at the vastly different nature of scientific debate and political rhetoric .. One requires facts figures and evidence the other merely whatever I'll informed contradictory opinion one cares to spew out
I don't think you'll find many climatologists who would deny the effect of many natural cycles on our climate I suggest that you'll find many who would tell you that human activity is an accelerator and amplifier of many of these effects ... The argument is not that any one thing acts alone but that the sum of many things act in concert.
I'm glad to amaze you ...I'd also be glad to see where any government has done anything other make 'appropriate' noises about climate change and actually followed through with action
Africa...should you care to look most proposals on carbon emissions actually allow for an increase in emissions from third world countries.
Climate change is a SCIENTIFIC theory it has not been disproved by counter theory in fact very few of those working in the field have found reason to contradict it .... In short any political debate attempting 'disprove' any SCIENTIFIC theory is worthless, we are not dealing with opinion but with evidence .... You're coming at it from totally the wrong angle, or do you want to tell me how Keynes disproves string theory ?? You are not alone in your amazement .... See that way over there on the Sun ? That little spot? That's the point .... See by how far you're missing it?
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Because the case for climate change is not being made by government -most if not all of whom are in the pockets of oil companies,who's interests aren't served by the debate- but by Scientists : the idea that climate change is a revenue/warmongering construct is contradictory to say the least
Sex God
Quote by flower411
It never ceases to amaze me how self righteous people get about our driving ability ..... There is a study should any of you care to search for it that shows a huge proportion of us when asked rate ourselves as above average drivers .... Including those in prison for motoring offences ...... There are indeed idiots at the wheel and we can all at times number ourselves amongst them
I have no idea why some people find it hard to believe that some drivers make every attempt to abide by the rules of the road. Of course there are times when mistakes are made but it does surprise me that people show pride in breaking the law and attempt to defend driving habits that are detrimental to other road users.
Calling people high and mighty because they attempt to drive correctly on motorways is a little strange to say the least !
Seriously .... I know how to use a knife and fork , you might just as well call me high and mighty for that !
I am, I must admit, struggling to understand why you've quoted my post
Because I was agreeing with you and expanding upon your comments about things that I found relevant within the thread .... I can always change it if you don't like being associated with me !
Sorry I misread the tone .... And assumed you'd done the same
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Quote by flower411
It never ceases to amaze me how self righteous people get about our driving ability ..... There is a study should any of you care to search for it that shows a huge proportion of us when asked rate ourselves as above average drivers .... Including those in prison for motoring offences ...... There are indeed idiots at the wheel and we can all at times number ourselves amongst them
I have no idea why some people find it hard to believe that some drivers make every attempt to abide by the rules of the road. Of course there are times when mistakes are made but it does surprise me that people show pride in breaking the law and attempt to defend driving habits that are detrimental to other road users.
Calling people high and mighty because they attempt to drive correctly on motorways is a little strange to say the least !
Seriously .... I know how to use a knife and fork , you might just as well call me high and mighty for that !
I am, I must admit, struggling to understand why you've quoted my post
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It never ceases to amaze me how self righteous we get about our driving ability ..... There is a study should any of you care to search for it that shows a huge proportion of us when asked rate ourselves as above average drivers .... Including those in prison for motoring offences ...... There are indeed idiots at the wheel and we can all at times number ourselves amongst them
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Possibly an aside but can anyone name any terrorists who have quoted their religion as the reason for their actions rather than western foreign policy ?
It strikes me that rather than jumping to conclusions about radical religious belief we should start to address the reasons why people might become radicalised
It strikes me that rather than jumping to conclusions about radical religious belief we should start to address the reasons why people might become radicalised
Sex God
Quote by gulsonroad30664
carbon tax. carbon tax offsets. goldman sachs. global warming. climate change. copenhagen. cat out of the bag. carbon footprint. glaciers melting. icecaps reducing. oceans rising.
absolute total load of bollox serving a political/taxation/population reduction agenda.
psuedo science bullshit.
totally proven in the collapse of the copenhagen accord when the russians challenged the data created by the u.n.'s centre for climate change studies at the east anglia universities goldman sachs funded research centre as having been corrupted and not the data that was collected.
i say again, if you reduce the carbon footprint of a continent like africa (reduce coal, parafin, diesel and any other manner of fossil fuel consumption), where the vast majority live at just subsistance level, you will kill them by the millions.
mans growth in numbers is directly proportionate to his increase in energy flux density per square mile/killometer and any decrease in that density will reduce the population.
now which naive phuckers amongst us is going to choose who is going to live and who is going to die ? none of us, the ruling elite will decide and you aint one of them !
note :- not conspiracy theory, not off a conspiracy website just common sense
Soo a long delay for response but ....as far as common sense goes,why ? Why does anyone imagine that the powers that be have to invent a global catastrophe to justify taxes ?? They never have before, why would they feel the need to invent a global catastrophe to justify wars and genocide?? They never have before. Why does anyone feel that world governments and their paymasters feel any urge whatsoever to justify their actions ? Sorry gulson but sometimes you do seem to have that gun pointed squarely at your foot
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I wouldn't wear a dress to work ...it would be very uncomfortable under the boiler suit
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It is not only acceptable but recommended practice to sound you horn and flash your lights when, for instance, taking someone to hospital in an emergency
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We are still hoping to make it but are experiencing a little difficulty in getting the tent delivered ....
So I'm going to show off about it now
....... this is what I'm getting......
Just the tent you understand :lol:
If they ever deliver the bloody thing
So I'm going to show off about it now
....... this is what I'm getting...... Just the tent you understand :lol:
If they ever deliver the bloody thing
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Quote by foxylady2209
Cutting benefits does not move people into work. WORK moves people into work. Job Centres should be measured on how many claimants THEY get into full time jobs each year. The online application process is like spitting into the sea - a theoretical effect but no practical use.
The thing about job centres is that they actually work a lot better than the private companies that IDS and the previous government insist are doing soooo well and are earning the millions we're wasting on them
As for benefits caps and threats of stopping benefits , this makes for interesting reading
