First things first - any "standard" messages sent to us, you know the type = Really like your profile, why don't you drop by and have a look at mine, and let me know what you think - will not get read, just deleted, so don't waste your time. (Not that you spend much time just clicking a standard reply), but if you can't be bothered having to think of something to say, we can't be bothered to read it.

We enjoy meeting up with guys and couples, any age is fine with us. But we can't accomodate due to family, but will happily visit. All we ask is that you're clean, reasonably fit, and "normal".

Pam is very submissive and does as she's told and likes to dress to please, and not afraid of groups of guys, as long as i'm present.

Usually takes us a few days to arrange minders for our family if were going out, so pleae bear that in mind when contacting us, i.e. we will not visit you in an hours time etc etc.

Hope to meet some of you soon.

P & D