What do you make of this ? ;
Just a week or two back there was a press conference by the head of MI5, denying any involvement of the security services in torture allegations, so why wasn't this case allowed to go to court ? A multi million pound cave in,even the true figure is secret although it's apparently less than £30 million !!!!!!! Of TAX PAYERS MONEY WTF !!!!
Posted this on another thread but It's more relevent on this one;
Going back to the discussion on the Police force and the fire extinguisher incident at the student protest,I agree the student was a idiot for doing that,however,I do seem to recall Police officers actually causing the death of a civilian at the G20 protest in London, didn't the Police get let off ?
But of course it's not the first time a civilian has been killed by British Police,there has been many over the years,maybe the most contentious being the Stockwell shooting of Brazilian student Jean Charles de Menezes,who was shot 7 times in the head of the Police force at the time,Ian Blair, gave a VERY misleading press conference to the media,full of lies and half fact a lot of people still think the version they read in the media was the truth,there was no effort from the Police to correct any of this .
CCTV footage
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason for the low Police numbers around Millbank, was deliberate, maybe a protest of sorts over the upcoming cuts in the Police force.
Also the TV news found information from websites and social networking sites, talking about anarchists infiltrating the protest,posted weeks beforehand,why couldn't the Police find the same information,or weren't they looking ?
I urge those of you interested in this topic to watch this documentary before commenting,not easy viewing for those on the left or the right......but with an interesting solution to Britain's debt towards the end of the documentary;
QUOTE;Film maker Martin Durkin explains the full extent of the financial mess we are in: an estimated £4.8 of national debt and counting. It's so big that even if every home in the UK was sold it wouldn't raise enough cash to pay it off.
Durkin argues that to put Britain back on track we need to radically rethink the role of the state, stop politicians spending money in our name and introduce, among other measures, flat taxes to make Britain's economy boom again.
This polemical film presented by Martin Durkin, brings economic theory to life and makes it hit home. It includes interviews with academics, economic experts, entrepreneurs, no less than four ex-Chancellors of the Exchequer and the biggest stack of £50 notes you'll never OF QUOTE
"Don't reply to medway_garage posts in a manner other than supporting his views least you be branded a troll"
You really are funny, amazing how you keep turning that one around, I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, but when certain individuals engage in troll like behavour, i.e GnV and Max777 because I don't agree with their right wing agenda, well I'll leave it at that, go back over the threads and make up your own mind !
What is Al-Qaida?
Is it a worldwide group of international terrorists like we are let to believe, or
as the late Robin Cook wrote, a 'computer file' of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA.
Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west.
Do Al-Qaida as an organised worldwide terrorist group even exist ? Or are there 'many' separate groups with a similar Bin-Laden orchestrate Sept 11th or not, let's have a look at the FBI's webpage;
QUOTE;Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the OF QUOTE
Who can spot the missing event ? So is there any proof of Bin-Laden's involvment or have they not updated their webpage since 2001 ? Seeing as this has now been ingrained into popular culture I would like to see some evidence of his involvement.I do agree that Bin-Laden is a terrorist, that's not in doubt, just the proof of his involvement in 9/11. It would appear that the FBI do not consider the 'fat' Bin-Laden tape, to be proof, as 9/11 is still not listed.
Now let's look at MI6's involvement in the plot to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi, a plot that involved the funding of 'an islamic group' by MI6, a story that got David Shayler arrested for breaking the official secrets act !
"We need a statement from the Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary clarifying the facts of this matter. In particular, we need to know how around £100,000 of taxpayers' money was used to fund the sort of Islamic Extremists who have connections to Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda network. Did ministers give MI6 permission for this? By the time MI6 paid the group in late 1995 or early 1996, US investigators had already established that Bin Laden was implicated in the 1993 attack on the World Trade Centre. Given the timing and the close connections between Libyan and Egyptian Islamic Extremists, it may even have been used to fund the murder of British citizens in Luxor, Egypt in 1996.
Including some very interesting documents.
Panorama
Now let's look at the history of this mystery group Al-Qaida;
Adam Curtis-The Power Of Nightmares
The most telling and up to date, being the third part, where the issue of Al-Qaida as an 'organised worldwide terrorist group' is questioned !
Right back to the tax avoidance/evasion issue if you don't mind, a very interesting podcast interview with John Christensen from the tax justice network ,who previously worked within the banking system and also as economic advisor to the government of Jersey.
Fourth show - 2nd February 2009 (Part 1) - Interview with John Christensen
You keep referring to the "Tories" but the Government of Britain, if you hadn't noticed, is an alliance.
Yes, you're right the Tories didn't win did they ! So illegitimate government is perhaps a better term !
bye troll !
