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8 Nov 2004

Quote by dazandlou
Seriously though, all this sanctity of marriage crap is just stupid.... i dont want to marry anybody i swing with... i just want to shag the arse of them!!

...the whole point of swinging is NSA fun, so why does your relationship/marriage need to come into it?? ... swinging is the enjoyment and excitement of friendship and sex between 2,3,4 or MORE people!!!

Yes indeed it is obvious swinging is no strings attached fun, but it clearly contradicts and makes a mockery of marriage vows more akin to the lifestyle of a porn star, you may view swinging as an enlightened lifestyle letting your partner indulge in anything they deem suitable for their hedonistic enjoyment, and those that do not agree with it have not been enlightened enough it's a case of anything goes, if it gives me pleasure why shouldn't I do it?, those that disagree with the lifestyle may simply see you as being unable to control your sexual desires and want to have the cow and the milk with no strings attached. What happens when negative consequences occur due to the swinging lifestyle? sexually transmitted diseases for example, what precautions are taken by the swinging couple to prevent these freakish scenarios?
I am wondering seriously how many swinging couples would still be together as a couple if one partner decided enough was enough after reading threads like these:
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/26151.html

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29 Oct 2004

Quote by Heather
So tell me, Tigress... why ARE you here, then...?
You had better not try to tell us we've all got it wrong!

As I stated in the chatroom and in my earlier post, I am simply trying trying to understand the swinging morality when it comes to marriage "forsaking all others" seems to be treated as just some words.

Quote by skegnessswingers
OK, this may well start even more rows, but here goes.....
Tigris.... Do you believe that sex should only take place within a marriage then??

I don't see how turning the question to me helps in anyway?
If I was to say sex should only take place within a marriage you will then turn on me claiming I am discriminating single people from having sex and everybody else who has sex outside of marriage, which is not my question at all, if anything I would understand why single people would swing, no ties, no allegiances, no vows...
I am not here as a christian, I am simply trying to understand how swingers justify swinging with the morality of the age, they might claim that swingers are much more enlightened than the majority, it still leaves the purpose that swinging is all about me me me, I am afraid to say from the look of it it seems like a totally selfish hedonistic lifestyle, "what satisfes me what gives me pleasure I don't care what anybody else thinks I am going to enjoy myself and so what if I sleep around I sleep around with like minded people as far as we are all consenting so what" I am afriad I do not see what is so enlightening about this.

If not, then you are discriminating against swingers, because if you do believe in sex outside of wedlock, why not for us? ( And where do you stand on unmarried couples who swing? )

Let me see where you are coming from:
You see someone doing something that the rest of the world regard as immoral
You then claim "look since they are doing it why don't I do it, you are discriminating me from me doing it..." In that case in theory any act or behaviour can be justified since someone is doing it why don't I do it.
As I stated my views on singles have no baring on my question, the here and now are married swingers and the question was posted to them.

If you do believe sex should only take place within mariage, what then are your views on homosexual marriages? Is that not discrimination against people who find love in same sex relationships?

Claiming dicrimination these days is a cheap way to silence your critics, I am simply looking at the moral aspects and how swingers (married swingers) justify the lifestyle giving the vows they have said, and the morality of the age, there is no religious implication intended.

Or.... do you have to think about the possibility that "My way or its wrong" is maybe a narrow minded outlook on life?

So the crux of your argument is I have a narrow minded outlook on life for not falling in love with the swinging lifestyle? According to what you have posted so far life is about selfish pleasure? ( I hope you or anybody else are not insulted by my comments, I am just trying to give an objective opinion to your arguments based on the consensus devoid of religion, btw I think you people are lovely)

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27 Oct 2004

My apologies for the negative impact my first post has had, I should have stressed in the chatroom that i already made the post before joining the chatroom, if it comes across as ignorant pls forgive me.
As I stated in the chatroom I joined because I found the threads I read to be full of warm friendly individuals, I am finding it difficult to reconcile how such warm friendly individuals would be at ease sleeping with others outside of the sanctity of marriage.
I do not wish to cause offence with my questions, I am just trying to understand the moral implications of why it's done and how individual swingers justify it considering many are married and many did undertake these vow:

...
(MAN), will you have this woman as your lawful wedded wife, to live together in matrimony? Will you love her, honor her, comfort her, and keep her in sickness and in health; forsaking all others, be true to her as long as you both shall live? (I will).
(WOMAN), will you have this man as your lawful wedded husband, to live together in the matrimony? Will you love him, honor him, comfort him, and keep him in sickness and in health; forsaking all others, be true to him as long as you both shall live? (I will).

I also have a million dollar question regarding my first post, if the other partner suddenly decided they were not happy with you taking part in this activity would you stop? or would this be the end of the marriage?

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26 Oct 2004

I would like a swinger's honest opinion as to why they would get married if they still want to put it about?
It seems to defeat the whole purpose of marriage
Having your cake and eating it

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