11/16 currently it's single bi sexual females (sounds trashy when you say that , we wont treat you trashy we promise.)., the kind who want to have shed loads of fun in bed we are after, .........anyway we are  here again, inspired by an accidental meeting with some pals who turned out to our surprise to be swingers, not just swingers but ones who meet with our taste.. BOTH BI!!!!    WELL 2 TRIPS TO EUROPE LATER WITH THEM AND HEY PRESTO WE ARE HUNGRY FOR MORE FUN!  (if they lived closer it would be so much easier but they dont and so here we are back in Swinging Heaven land), nothings changed the place is still full of cammers and wankers, i say this in the nicest possible way but if you want to wank over Rose or expect Staggy to wank over you.. you are going to have to be in the same room and not on web the end of a web feed.. big love . xx

just nipped in for a QUICKY, 09/12/15

life is too short .. way too short ..and here we are again seeing if the old place is back to how it once was.. i guess if your reading this we are in the chat room.. say hi dont be shy, worse that can happen is we won't fuck you.. but then thats the same as the best with added extras..
in loving memory of Vix, Duncan , Bart and Neil in real swinging heaven now.........hope there;s no one else we hadn't heard about 
popped in again 2013 feb.. must be a feb thing, didnt know anyone,, if you drop by here and remember us say hi be nice to hear from people that have partied here or we used to chat to in the past.. wont come by often i guess so drop us a line

popped in to tidy up in feb 2012, didnt need it...

we are and have been up to our necks in work of late, so havent had time to be around, sorry if thats an issue for any of you but its how things are, we will be back when things go quieter but right now work is in the way of fun, thats soooo not like us!!!

see you soon rose n staggy x

ALL THE BEST MEETS GET SET UP EASILY, WE DONT ASK A LOT, WE DO ASK JUST A LITTLE OF YOU.

ok fellas where does it say we are interested in single guys?

....if we aren't watching your cam its because cams aren't our thing.. its not because we dont want to have sex with you..

''soft swingers''.. it means we dont fuck you, or get fucked by you.. that includes BI guys!! everything else is pretty cool .. more or less..we are how you say ''adaptable'' so dont let one of our pictures put you off or the lack of an 'interest' make you think we wouldnt want to do it!

If your profile says str8 and you are not then you really need to contact us and tell us as we will not approach you.

'' bi sexual''

Rose is as bi as they come these days, shes not curious and honestly prefers non curious women, Staggy is just not cock shy, he does not desire men as such but can find them sexy , he is as happy playing with cock as he is pussy in an orgiastic way.. If you are bi sexual tell us .. especially when its a big secret on your profile , we understand that. Not into anal, thats neither of us! Staggy dont wanna kiss you ! Rose will snog fems face off .

What do we require from you?Bisexual, all, both, each and every one of you.. and then of course you have to be clean, if a couple you will both be willing to play, we prefer shaved , fun, exciting, adventurous, no hard drugs and we would like you to be able to swing without being totally pissed , finally we play as a group , altogether , if separate rooms is your thing you are not for us............................................................................................

Now read this to see how we get started with a meet!

'' hi cpl, nice to chat to you, before we arrange to meet can we see what you look like together on cam?'' (same applies to single girls.. too many '' bi fem bobs'' on here)

If you are happy with the above then just get in touch ..

If not read below or move on to the next profile.

These are the answer we give to all of your reasons to not go on cam from the start.

''look , we said when you are both there, no rush guys''

'' no we dont want you to text a picture to roses phone, we want to see you both on web cam..''

'' no it doesnt take long to set up and we really dont care it isnt in HD''

'' go out and buy a camera then they arent expensive, take our request serious we will take you serious,''

'' pm us with when you will be both there , give us a little notice, we can open a private room if your shy or use messenger''

'' no you dont have to be naked and we dont need to have cyber sex on cam, we just want to see you and your partner together smiling back at us, its how we know you have a partner and what you currently look like''

'' no theres no need for Rose or me to see your cock on a picture before then or for us to send you any more pictures before that point''

'' cant be bothered? not a good start is it, you like this in bed?''

'' we dont need to chat on the phone before that point either, or to be honest ever''

''everyones knows you? we dont, ''

'' your beginning to sound like a cam wanker or time wasters, as much as we love those we are here to SWING''

No hello on cam, no consideration of a meet ... simples!

WE KNOW THIS IS CONTENTIOUS FOR SOME, why thats the case we will never understand if they are genuine!

SOON WE COULD SEE EACH OTHER SO UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL THAT THE SECOND WE SPENT ON CAM WILL BE JUST A DISTANT MEMORY.

WE DONT ASK YOU TO JUSTIFY WHY YOU CANT CAM! WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO JUST MOVE ALONG AND NOT WASTE OUR TIME!

EVERY SINGLE COUPLE/PERSON WE HAVE PLAYED WITH HAVE HAD NO ISSUE WITH SAYING HI ON CAM , EVERY SINGLE COUPLE/PERSON WE WILL PLAY WITH IN THE FUTURE WILL BE THE SAME.

there really should be no need for all the above in our opinion but all the above is here to save us wasting time arguing with people about saying hi on cam before a meet or further contact.

NOW GO AND WHINE AND MOAN ABOUT OUR TERRIBLE PROFILE , BRING IT UP IN THE CHAT ROOM AMONGST OTHERS THAT ALSO DO NOT SAY HI ON CAM FIRST AND GET THEIR SYMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING, WHILE YOUR AT IT POINT IT OUT TO THOSE THAT ARE SHREWD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM, THEY ARE THE ONES WE ARE INTERESTED IN , you have got this far you may be interested if not in us but a group we have on sh for Bi sexual couples , feel free to join (not our group any more, handed over to pals for safe keeping as we arent around as much now)

'' bi couples for bi couples '' pop that in a groups search and join the fun