was going to have a look at the beta chat today, is it still in beta mode? where is it? has it gone? is it comming back? does it work? did everyone like it?
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My thoughts on a quick foray into the Beta chatroom are:
a) The icons next to people's names for profiles and pictures need to be about twice the size with a wider separation between them.
b) When selecting to view people's pictures, the first picture does not appear in the centre of the little window to the left.
c) The name list is not tall enough. When more people log in than were in there this morning, with the current layout people will have to constantly scroll up and down the name list.
d) Is it possible to have a function so that when people enter/leave, this is shown in the main chat window?
Other than that, looks ok so far. What do other people think?
a) The icons next to people's names for profiles and pictures need to be about twice the size with a wider separation between them.
b) When selecting to view people's pictures, the first picture does not appear in the centre of the little window to the left.
c) The name list is not tall enough. When more people log in than were in there this morning, with the current layout people will have to constantly scroll up and down the name list.
d) Is it possible to have a function so that when people enter/leave, this is shown in the main chat window?
Other than that, looks ok so far. What do other people think?
We tried the new beta chat today and it worked flawlessly - actually very good.
Just a couple of things we were not keen on.
Tha private message/whisper covers the screen and you miss the general room chat as well and also could find no means of putting a busy or idle/away message on? Sure if these were ironed out it would become very popular.
Also if you open a room you have the option of banning, rather than just kicking any troublemakers, excellent idea ! because just kicking someone achieves nothing - they come straight back in
2 cams are great for 2 way conversations as well.
Might also be an idea to try and include some means of slowing the chat down at busy times - it does become difficult to follow if its busy.
We will keep trying it anyhow and hopefully these points might get implimented.
happy swinging xxxx
Just a couple of things we were not keen on.
Tha private message/whisper covers the screen and you miss the general room chat as well and also could find no means of putting a busy or idle/away message on? Sure if these were ironed out it would become very popular.
Also if you open a room you have the option of banning, rather than just kicking any troublemakers, excellent idea ! because just kicking someone achieves nothing - they come straight back in
2 cams are great for 2 way conversations as well.
Might also be an idea to try and include some means of slowing the chat down at busy times - it does become difficult to follow if its busy.
We will keep trying it anyhow and hopefully these points might get implimented.
happy swinging xxxx
Just tried the beta room out. Looks fairly good but:
1) On inital load of a profiles pics, the initial pic is displayed with the center of the pic display screen being the top left of the pic. Scrolling a profiles pics fixes the positioning. Moveing to a new users pics then goingback to one you have previously viewed, the inital pic displays good.
2) Please, please display an icon to indicate if somebody has their cams on. Clicking a drop down is a PITA to check if cams are available.
The room creation stuff has more options which is nice :-)
1) On inital load of a profiles pics, the initial pic is displayed with the center of the pic display screen being the top left of the pic. Scrolling a profiles pics fixes the positioning. Moveing to a new users pics then goingback to one you have previously viewed, the inital pic displays good.
2) Please, please display an icon to indicate if somebody has their cams on. Clicking a drop down is a PITA to check if cams are available.
The room creation stuff has more options which is nice :-)
Sex God
Quote by letzplaytoo
Keeping this simple...
New chat room? ... dont like, it's pants and thats being kind. Seem to have lost the 'Proper' chat rooms, please bring them back.
You mean the mIRC room of course
Admin
Beta testing is now open 
If you have a second, jump in and test it.
If you have a second, jump in and test it.
I did view Elliots cam (the cute chipmunk :lol2
however I got an error message about a script error on Macromedia 8 and did I want to abort running the script?
I pressed yes and everything ground to a halt. Apart from Elliots slow motion chimpmunk impressions. All text froze etc, couldn't log out so will have to wait 5 minutes.
PS: I vote for burgers!
however I got an error message about a script error on Macromedia 8 and did I want to abort running the script? I pressed yes and everything ground to a halt. Apart from Elliots slow motion chimpmunk impressions. All text froze etc, couldn't log out so will have to wait 5 minutes.
PS: I vote for burgers!
It broke again. 
I got another error message saying that IE had encountered a problem and did I wan't to send an error report. I clicked no. After that both the IE still in the main site and the chat window automatically closed.
It's quite possible that it's this computer thought as it has very low RAM.
Will try BETA again after lunch if it's still available.
I got another error message saying that IE had encountered a problem and did I wan't to send an error report. I clicked no. After that both the IE still in the main site and the chat window automatically closed.
It's quite possible that it's this computer thought as it has very low RAM.
Will try BETA again after lunch if it's still available.
I had the same problem as listed above. The error report said...
I was only in the chat room about 30 seconds and hadn't even typed anything.
Problem caused by Flash Player
This problem was caused by Flash Player. This program was created by Adobe Systems Inc.. Adobe Systems Inc. does not currently have a solution for the problem that you reported.
I was only in the chat room about 30 seconds and hadn't even typed anything.
Warming the Bed
Vodka I was getting a similar problem when the beta room was running earlier this year.
However discovered that by disabling the Privacy section on my McAfee Security software has rectified this totally.
:smile2:
However discovered that by disabling the Privacy section on my McAfee Security software has rectified this totally.
:smile2:
we certainly don't want to do is replace the existing chat with something that either doesn't work as well or annoys a lot of people.
Well not being rude but..... it is already annoying a lot of people, and think that people will not pay the extra money to view 2 cams, which I feel is the reason behind the new Beta chat. To hopefully generate more money!
Well not being rude but..... it is already annoying a lot of people, and think that people will not pay the extra money to view 2 cams, which I feel is the reason behind the new Beta chat. To hopefully generate more money!
i popped into Beta for a while late afternoon yesterday but then the server was re-starting so I found summat else to do.
I'm not sure i like the format all that much, it will take a lot of getting used to - but doesn't anything that is new?
If i had my way i'd bring back mirc too but it's not gonna happen so we make do with what we've got.
Right now, I prefer the current chatroom to the Beta.
If you - or anyone else you know - does too - then voice your concerns here, don't sit their grumbling at the monitor or bitching to your mates.
I'm sorry to see there aren't more posts in here tbh.
Lots of people were whinging and i did tell them that it wouldn't make any difference and they should post on this forum. not sure if that will make any difference either but anyway ...
I'm not sure i like the format all that much, it will take a lot of getting used to - but doesn't anything that is new?
If i had my way i'd bring back mirc too but it's not gonna happen so we make do with what we've got.
Right now, I prefer the current chatroom to the Beta.
If you - or anyone else you know - does too - then voice your concerns here, don't sit their grumbling at the monitor or bitching to your mates.
I'm sorry to see there aren't more posts in here tbh.
Lots of people were whinging and i did tell them that it wouldn't make any difference and they should post on this forum. not sure if that will make any difference either but anyway ...
Just had another go at Beta. My thoughts for what it's worth ....
Most people don't like the format but that could change over time, i guess.
viewing a profile makes the main chat page go back to standard size - and be honest, you do need it maximised cos everything seems so small!
is it just me or are the cam screens a tad smaller too?
No one seems to know how to use the bloody thing. maybe we need some kind of online manual?
I just click everything to see what happens but we know there are those that don't have the common sense to even try and work it out. they want it all handed on a plate.
I'm told that Beta is the way forward whether we like it or not so as I said before, we'll just get used to it and there's always the possibilty of certain features being "tweaked" in the future?
Most people don't like the format but that could change over time, i guess.
viewing a profile makes the main chat page go back to standard size - and be honest, you do need it maximised cos everything seems so small!
is it just me or are the cam screens a tad smaller too?
No one seems to know how to use the bloody thing. maybe we need some kind of online manual?
I just click everything to see what happens but we know there are those that don't have the common sense to even try and work it out. they want it all handed on a plate.I'm told that Beta is the way forward whether we like it or not so as I said before, we'll just get used to it and there's always the possibilty of certain features being "tweaked" in the future?
Quote by Kiss
I had the same problem as listed above. The error report said...
Problem caused by Flash Player
This problem was caused by Flash Player. This program was created by Adobe Systems Inc.. Adobe Systems Inc. does not currently have a solution for the problem that you reported.
I was only in the chat room about 30 seconds and hadn't even typed anything.
Just tried BETA chat again, same as above happened but I managed to stay in chat for about 10 minutes.
Admin
Unfortunately with the Beta chat room I am new to the problems and solutions - best go back to basics and have a fresh install of flash player on your computer:
Lets see how you get on.
Lets see how you get on.
Orgasminator
Blank screen or runs for about 5 mins and crashes with a flash problem, have checked version of flash instaled. does same thing running under firefox as well as ie 7
Won't run at all under Opera
Won't run at all under Opera
Orgasminator
Quote by flower411
Blank screen or runs for about 5 mins and crashes with a flash problem, have checked version of flash instaled. does same thing running under firefox as well as ie 7
Won't run at all under Opera
Have ya tried running it under a landrover yet sparky ?? :giggle:
The Forward control or the Shorty ???
:lol: Nobody seems to like the new version, why dont you abondon the idea and stick to the ols format? We for one will not be renewing our xtras package and talking to other members they feel the same. I feel you will lose a lot of members this way as there are other sites with better chat rooms
It is something which we ask ourselves. Nobody that we have spoken too, likes the new chat room. After all the work on it, no matter how bad it is, or how unpopular it is, admin will not change..get used to it!
It is something which we ask ourselves. Nobody that we have spoken too, likes the new chat room. After all the work on it, no matter how bad it is, or how unpopular it is, admin will not change..get used to it!
Having worked in IT, really think you should get existing chatroom working without breakdowns before moving onto the beta version.
My ex company did what you are doing and went out of business.
The existing chatroom is simple and very good (when its working) (Note the simple keep it that way!)
When people get frustrated by being 'dropped' out of the room for whatever cause, and have to wait 5 mins to get back in is unacceptable- 2 mins would be far better.
Dont know why im writing this cos no-one there listens and they think they are right.
My ex company did what you are doing and went out of business.
The existing chatroom is simple and very good (when its working) (Note the simple keep it that way!)
When people get frustrated by being 'dropped' out of the room for whatever cause, and have to wait 5 mins to get back in is unacceptable- 2 mins would be far better.
Dont know why im writing this cos no-one there listens and they think they are right.
Master of Sex
I've copied text into here from another post as it seems a more sensible place to put it.
The original post is available here: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopicpage/191751/40.html
I'm happy to provide feedback although I can only base this on brief access. Once it's available again I'll provide more.
Having whispers in a separate fixed tab at the top of the screen I find frustrating to use. I'm used to having the flexibility to have multiple windows open on screen that I can position them to suit me. Taking onboard other users' comments about this, how about offering the windows as docked by default with the option to un-dock them if required? I think this would satisfy most users.
All users have a photos icon on their username in the list, whether or not they have pictures on their profile. Couldn't this only show when photos are available?
The emoticons are now on a clickable popup in the chatroom window - good; however the choice is a lot less than the old chatroom - not so good.
Key AUP and chatroom T&C items still don't appear as static text in the window border (as far as I can remember) rather than appearing in text that scrolls off the window when typing. Suggest they are moved so they are always prominent. No excuse for badly behaved users then. (edit: I know this won't stop badly behaved users but it's a lot easier pointing it out when the links are always present)
Overall, my requirements for any chat programme are pretty straightforward. It should be easy to use and well laid out (with as few superfluous "bells and whistles" as possible), it should be resiliant (down-time being an exception rather than an expected regular occurrence) and flexible to allow for different operating systems, browers and user capabilities.
I have one question for you which I mentioned earlier in this thread - why did you decide upon building a new chatroom from scratch (from a programming viewpoint) rather than using any of the perfectly good, stable and well supported programmes already on the market? I think we're all aware that a great deal of effort goes into supporting this site behind the scenes, but I wonder whether some of it is due to having to correct things that could otherwise have been made easier in the first place for all concerned.
Sounds like you've had experience of some poorly managed sites and these are the ones I tend to avoid. I have had a lot of positive experiences elsewhere, on sites where the admins make the effort to consult their users and do a lot of testing. And they are of a comparable size and usage pattern to this site. Happy to provide further specific details by PM if you want.
Hope this is useful, whether or not my suggestions are taken onboard. I'm keen to provide specific and evidential feedback rather than just saying I like/dislike things.
The original post is available here: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopicpage/191751/40.html
Quote by McrM4M-pvtOK
Could you run through some of the things with the look/style/feel that you don't like.
I'm happy to provide feedback although I can only base this on brief access. Once it's available again I'll provide more.
Having whispers in a separate fixed tab at the top of the screen I find frustrating to use. I'm used to having the flexibility to have multiple windows open on screen that I can position them to suit me. Taking onboard other users' comments about this, how about offering the windows as docked by default with the option to un-dock them if required? I think this would satisfy most users.
All users have a photos icon on their username in the list, whether or not they have pictures on their profile. Couldn't this only show when photos are available?
The emoticons are now on a clickable popup in the chatroom window - good; however the choice is a lot less than the old chatroom - not so good.
Key AUP and chatroom T&C items still don't appear as static text in the window border (as far as I can remember) rather than appearing in text that scrolls off the window when typing. Suggest they are moved so they are always prominent. No excuse for badly behaved users then. (edit: I know this won't stop badly behaved users but it's a lot easier pointing it out when the links are always present)
Overall, my requirements for any chat programme are pretty straightforward. It should be easy to use and well laid out (with as few superfluous "bells and whistles" as possible), it should be resiliant (down-time being an exception rather than an expected regular occurrence) and flexible to allow for different operating systems, browers and user capabilities.
I have one question for you which I mentioned earlier in this thread - why did you decide upon building a new chatroom from scratch (from a programming viewpoint) rather than using any of the perfectly good, stable and well supported programmes already on the market? I think we're all aware that a great deal of effort goes into supporting this site behind the scenes, but I wonder whether some of it is due to having to correct things that could otherwise have been made easier in the first place for all concerned.
Quote by Elliot
As far as the original point of this thread goes, i think people need to look at it at another angle - many sites of this size will just be left alone, taking money, no further development or improvements, no resources spent on taking it to better levels - just reap as much money as possible while you can.
Sounds like you've had experience of some poorly managed sites and these are the ones I tend to avoid. I have had a lot of positive experiences elsewhere, on sites where the admins make the effort to consult their users and do a lot of testing. And they are of a comparable size and usage pattern to this site. Happy to provide further specific details by PM if you want.
Hope this is useful, whether or not my suggestions are taken onboard. I'm keen to provide specific and evidential feedback rather than just saying I like/dislike things.
Master of Sex
Quote by Buggered
Having worked in IT, really think you should get existing chatroom working without breakdowns before moving onto the beta version.
My ex company did what you are doing and went out of business.
:thumbup:
I take onboard Dawnie's point (hello hun
) about the need to move to new servers for capacity reasons, but this doesn't have to go hand in hand with changing the front end. The whole lot should be stabilised at the back end first.Quote by Buggered
The existing chatroom is simple and very good (when its working) (Note the simple keep it that way!)
:thumbup:
Quote by Buggered
When people get frustrated by being 'dropped' out of the room for whatever cause, and have to wait 5 mins to get back in is unacceptable- 2 mins would be far better.
The last bit is just poor programming - there's no need for any wait time. All it needs in the script when someone tries to logon is for the server to check whether they're already (apparently) logged on. If the answer is yes, kill the existing session and log them back in again.
