Whispers

31 Aug 2006

Quote by Kiss
In my view people do overreact and look ridiculous in the process. Also, to be fair the fella is right. It is nothing like the pub at all.
God knows why people get arsey about them. Its just another high horse thing - something to moan about from what i can see.

May I ask if you've been in this situation - on the receiving end? When a room is quite full and busy it tends to move quite fast anyway but when every other line is an unwanted whisper it does tend to get quite tedious.
Not only that but I'd think that if I'd made it apparent that I didn't want whispers, why would a guy think he's going to get anywhere with me by doing something I've already asked, repeatedly and politely, for him not to do? Is he just doing it to annoy? To get a rise out of me? In which case I feel completely within my rights to think him a bit of an arse.
H.x
Ignore them. It takes longer to paste that nonsense and then argue. Yes I have by the way been subject to some prolonged unwanted whispers and I just laugh. Its just childish on both sides as far as I can see. I guess my bugbear is the polar oppposite of yours. Why give them time when its busy? Its not a race after all. In the end he wants to fuck you not steal your heart, so is he worth the bother?
Taking ther moral high ground on an issue like this, when this site advocates dogging (which people dont like, get offended by and is very likely illegal - very similar to the issues you mention earlier) is a bit hypocritical in my view.
Just a personal opinion and one i do find amusing.
Each to their own i guess.
Take care.
If you advocate ignoring these types of situations... why are you replying? dunno

Also you can't choose who whispers and who doesn't, you can however choose whether to visit the dogging section or not. :doh:
I find your 'arguments' show a lack of insight and are weak, to put it politely.
Each to their own I guess rolleyes

There is a difference between a debate and an argument. If people invite a respone on this issue then its worth putting that perspective across, is it not?
In that your insight is poor, to put it politely.
Its not a test its an adult debate. People dont need to agree or disagree. Its not difficult.
Please dont try to be so condescending. Its a weak trait.
You completely miss the point about dogging. Asa site that advocates it, isnt it true that they are doing to the general public what whisperers are doing to H-x? Imposing something upon them that they have no right to do? Plenty of people have had the misfortune to stumble across it.
Its the issue of imposition that is the point. You cant have it both ways.
Of course, not everyone goes dogging but on a site like this the moral high ground strikes me as being a little rich. The parallel is very obvious.
If you wish to respond please try it with an element of erudition rather than the quality of your last post. That is a request. I assume you will adhere to it?
Chatty.

31 Aug 2006

I'm not arguing with you - that would imply that your opinion matters to me, would it not?
Because you mix your insults and digs with an air of humour, it doesn't make them any less obvious. rolleyes

The fact that somebody is annoyed/upset and you find it funny? dunno

31 Aug 2006

Quote by Kiss
Don't try to patronise me. Because you mix your insults and digs with an air of humour, it doesn't make them any less obvious.

Its easy, dont be so condescending.
Going full circle, its just a case of polite, repsecting opinions and showing some good manners.
As an analogy:
1. If you hadnt been condescending (for this we can take you to be the whisperer)
2. Then I wouldnt need to respond so snottily (In kind we can say this is a virtual pasting of the whisper)
Take care.

31 Aug 2006

My issue is not with your opinion - it's the fact that you found somebody elses 'problem' amusing. rolleyes

31 Aug 2006

i think some whispers can be rude and unwanted but i actually feel that to copy and paste them into the room for everyone to see isnt much different dunno

seems a bit like "tit for tat"......without the tit maybe...... lol

31 Aug 2006

Quote by Kiss
My issue is not with your opinion - it's the fact that you found somebody elses 'problem' amusing.

The amusement is in the obvious parallel I have very clearly drawn. Not her personal trauma! On that point I have emailed her (although to be fair, she didnt ask me to). wink

Please learn to be more tolerant. Before that learn to understand the nuances of the English language.
After that try not to be so petty. Its just a harmless debate. If they dont agree with you then its not the end of my world. Hopefully not yours either.
Take care

31 Aug 2006

Your post proves my point. Get over yourself. lol

31 Aug 2006

Please don't let this get personal. We can agree to have a difference of opinion without getting arsey about it.
Personally I don't quite see your dogging whispering analogy chatty7, I don't go dogging but those who do don't ask anyone who doesn't wish to to watch.
The whispering thing isn't that big a deal really in the grand scheme of things - compared to say, world peace, but if you've asked people repeatedly not to do something and they still do it, I don't see that they have the right to feel hard done by and have a go at me for my resulting action.
Let's not let this get into a slanging match though, eh?
H.x

31 Aug 2006

Quote by Kiss
Your post proves my point. Get over yourself.

I'll take that as your apology. Take care.

31 Aug 2006

Quote by chatty7
Your post proves my point. Get over yourself.

I'll take that as your apology. Take care.
so if you are taking that as an apology, is that the end of this now?

31 Aug 2006

Quote by H-x
Please don't let this get personal. We can agree to have a difference of opinion without getting arsey about it.
Personally I don't quite see your dogging whispering analogy chatty7, I don't go dogging but those who do don't ask anyone who doesn't wish to to watch.
The whispering thing isn't that big a deal really in the grand scheme of things - compared to say, world peace, but if you've asked people repeatedly not to do something and they still do it, I don't see that they have the right to feel hard done by and have a go at me for my resulting action.
Let's not let this get into a slanging match though, eh?
H.x

The imposition (ergo the whisperer) are the doggers. The poor sods in the general public who unfortunately are subjected to them as passers by are the recipient of the message.
Its just he issue of should people impose that risk on anyone? They shouldnt. It is illegal and ill-mannered. There are plenty of places inside for shagging. Some would say.
We can extend that by saying that the law do regularly remind people not to do it.
Yet still they do.
I'm not being pious about it. Just pointing out the very similar notion that triggers regarding the earlier issue.
there probably isnt a way around the earlier issue acceptable. I dont like the pasting as it just seems as wrong as doing it. Avoiding them is the easiest way. On that you ignore, as difficult as it may be.

31 Aug 2006

Chatty7 the site guidelines state no whispering .... why should individuals put up with whispers when they know they are not welcomed.
If people don't want their unwanted whispers published in the main chat arena, then they shouldn't send them, it takes the same amount of keystrokes to be polite and ask
dunno

Cx

31 Aug 2006

Quote by Calista
Chatty7 the site guidelines state no whispering .... why should individuals put up with whispers when they know they are not welcomed.
If people don't want their unwanted whispers published in the main chat arena, then they shouldn't send them, it takes the same amount of keystrokes to be polite and ask

Cx

I actually agree with what you say Calista. What I dont agree is with getting uptight about it. Just a personal perspective, it ends up with the innocent party getting more wound up and stooping to their level. Bit pointless when it could, with some obvious diffiiculty, be nullified by ignoring them.
Other issues are there but they have been noted.
All people should be polite. In my view.

31 Aug 2006

Quote by chatty7
Chatty7 the site guidelines state no whispering .... why should individuals put up with whispers when they know they are not welcomed.
If people don't want their unwanted whispers published in the main chat arena, then they shouldn't send them, it takes the same amount of keystrokes to be polite and ask

Cx

I actually agree with what you say Calista. What I dont agree is with getting uptight about it. Just a personal perspective, it ends up with the innocent party getting more wound up and stooping to their level. Bit pointless when it could, with some obvious diffiiculty, be nullified by ignoring them.
Other issues are there but they have been noted.
All people should be polite. In my view.
I'm trying not to get uptight, not about your posting, about the whispring. It does sometimes get to the stage where I can't stay in there because I can't keep up with what's being said. It hardly seems fare that I then can't use the chat room because of all the numpties who are spoiling it for me and I can't do a thing about it without getting flamed.
H.x

31 Aug 2006

Quote by H-x
Chatty7 the site guidelines state no whispering .... why should individuals put up with whispers when they know they are not welcomed.
If people don't want their unwanted whispers published in the main chat arena, then they shouldn't send them, it takes the same amount of keystrokes to be polite and ask

Cx

I actually agree with what you say Calista. What I dont agree is with getting uptight about it. Just a personal perspective, it ends up with the innocent party getting more wound up and stooping to their level. Bit pointless when it could, with some obvious diffiiculty, be nullified by ignoring them.
Other issues are there but they have been noted.
All people should be polite. In my view.
I'm trying not to get uptight, not about your posting, about the whispring. It does sometimes get to the stage where I can't stay in there because I can't keep up with what's being said. It hardly seems fare that I then can't use the chat room because of all the numpties who are spoiling it for me and I can't do a thing about it without getting flamed.
, that is unfair. Cant really say how it could be improved though other than getting yourself a blue icon (we dont get as many as you do!). The controls they would have to stick on the system would impinge on others unfairly. Equally, I am sure many people do it out of pure ignorance without understanding the issue.
Not sure what the means is for you to enjoy without the shit you have to put up with. I doubt, not having a bum like yours, many men have had the weight of whispers you get. confused

Could always chop every mans balls off (except mine)

31 Aug 2006

Having read through this thread I would just like to say that Chatty7 you seem to be talking a completely different language to many others hun!
When I get unwanted whispers sometimes I ignore them, sometimes I copy and paste them. All depends on the mood I'm in at the time. If you don't want your unwanted and unasked for whisper copied and posted, dont send it! Simple really.
What the feck has dogging got to do with whispers in a chat room dunno

What I'm trying to say is it's my choice and I'll do what I want at the time. I suggest that you do the same H and don't worry about what everyone else thinks!
Love
FIRE xxxx

31 Aug 2006

Quote by Stormwalker
Having read through this thread I would just like to say that Chatty7 you seem to be talking a completely different language to many others hun!

Oh I don't know, I've read, understood and agreed with it ............. basically I ignore most stuff in italics - I have a hard enough time trying to keep up in the main room, without the italics (this might be a good point to apologise to anyone that I've ignored redface

I don't mean to be rude, I just can't keep up with things). I certainly couldn't respond to them (in a please don't respond in a whisper way cos confusing the hell outta me type way) or copy and paste stuff - I would end up in a right mess after about 30 seconds, as opposed to my usual 2 minutes confused

Yeh it can get annoying, but it's not the end of the world - mind you, I'm saying this, but I don't actually get that many whispers ........... or I might do, I just don't have time to even register em, let alone see or read em :undecided: dunno

31 Aug 2006

FWIW.........
When I am in a room if I receive a complaint about somebody whispering without permission...................The whisperer gets a warning..............
If they do it again......................They leave the room....... smile

Quite simple really and not an analogy in sight..

31 Aug 2006

I have an overwhelming urge to say "wind your neck in" on this thread confused

:?
H-x you know that ALL the OP's will back you on this point as per the rules. Whispering without first obtaining the other person's permission is downright rude... Anyone that does it to me can forget about any chance of meeting me as manners are one of the things that I deem as essential...

1 Sep 2006

Anyone for billiards? ...

1 Sep 2006

Quote by chatty7
Your post proves my point. Get over yourself.

I'll take that as your apology. Take care.
You can choose to take it as any way you see fit.
Whispering is against the rules - if a person persistently whispers me, usually in very crude language, even though I ask them politely to refrain, they forfeit their right as to what I do with that whisper. Whether it's talk to a chat OP or paste it in the room.
If I went to a Swinging club and somebody came up to me and said something vulgar, I ignored them, they persisted and then turned nasty when I sought help to deal with this person - what do you think the outcome would be? Just because I happen to be in a chat room on a Swinging website doesn't mean that manners go out the window.

5 Sep 2006

Quote by Calista
be polite and ask

Must always be poilite and ask - is that for everything in life ???
May I ??? !"!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: lol