hi have tried and tested many aspects of outdoor shinanigans,each has its own appeal for us....some couples may chase the thrill,expanding their parameters,others my settle quickly into a particular scenario,then stick to it.....on a personal level,we enjoy being watched,its a different kind of erotic charge than active participation,i like the innocence of it,we dont show for the doggers as such,nothing pre-arranged or scripted,we just do our thing,and let them stumble across us,maybe they like that too?.......quite often my mate "the master" joins us in the car,that show for us,is more overtly sexual,and,depending on the guys and weather,we would open the window,inviting them to at this point,it goes tits up,long,jagged and/or dirty fingernails are an immediate turn off!!.......other times,in the right company,it can be a very thrilling and erotic element............sometimes we like to show to older guys,not a charity show!!,but things being relative,mrs dirty being younger would carry with it another element of desireability.....hope you dont mind us coming back to this thread later serendipity,i keep thinking of other aspects i'd like to discuss with you?
hi things serendipity,firstly,we wish you lived closer,cant think of a babe that would be more welcome to watch us at play,secondly,we are at crossed purposes regarding "the master",re-reading my post,i can see i didn't explain it well,but "the master" is very much an active participant in the show,its amazing what two guys and a gal can do in a car!......i'll pop back for a chat soon,but we are now going dawgin,yes really!maybe the night will bring with it some material for the forum.
The attraction to me is the pure voyeurism involved - I just love the thought of others being turned on by my attendance and me being a bit naughty and peeping tomish! Just a release i suppose from my dull job where i have to behave in a certain manner.
Anyone else find that when work is stressful the urge is greater to go and "stubble across a couple"? (what i really mean is to sit ina car park for a couple of hours!) Like i say a massive release for me
Hi serndipity, how r u 2nite?
As a newbie to this perticular seen i would like to share my opinion.
For me the whole thing is a turn on,im not drawn 2 1 particular aspect. The idea of performing to me is a huge turn on wether it be standing at the end of a bed playing with myself while my lady friend watches or if in a car performing to a mixed audience, as i start 2 take control of the situation the adrenaline rises and the intensity of the whole scenaro becomes fantastic.
On the other hand ssitting back and watching is also such a turn on especialy if its a quiet and respectful atmnosphere wen the lady looks directly at u while her partner is pleasuring u takes u 2 another place which is hard 2 understand unless u have experienced it b4.
This is my fave part of watching. I havea fantasy where i am watching a cpl and there was no 1 else around the lady was looking at me as her partner was pleasuring her, they started to whisper, then opened the door and motioned 4 me to come over, at this point i wasnt sure as im not the type that stands and looks through the window in the freezing cold,but the excitement overtook me and i went over. I was let in the car and sat in the front seat while they were in the back. No names were exchanged and no polite introductions. I became the the "narrator" or "the film director" this very sexy mature cpl performed 4 me. They did exactly as i requested them to i sat inches away and never once touched her. the intensitry was overwelming.
So that is wat draws me 2 dogging the hope that i might find like minded people that share my same fantasies.
YES YOU ARE RIGHT ITS THE WATCHING!!!!!! i was thinking that if you did have a big enough car for the trio in the back (lucky master!!!) then the idea of sitting in the front with my hands tied to the steering wheel, unable to touch!!! what pleasure that would be, begging to be released for a touch, just a touch,...... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :gagged:
some of the posts here have hinted at what i feel is a crucial element in dogging,"power".the word implies many things,but in the context of dogging,particularly a show couple,it has two main applications......the intoxicating combo of music,aroma,subdued light and female undress is very stimulating,and its been exploited commercially throughout history,by numerous going to the circus,ice-dance or xmas panto has this attraction,disguised in a socially acceptable form,without the stigma or blatant sexual overtures.......for a dogging lady,the feeling of power,and its attendant boost to her self confidence and esteem is a potent feel responsible for the sexual arousal her presence is creating around her,is quite an athrodisiac in itself.......the male partner will also experience feelings of power,his role as provider of this wonderful entertainment,and implied ownership of this object of desire,puts him in a position of authority,he may become extrovert or controlling as he feels his short lived position allows....of course,this is but a small aspect of the scene,and only my dirty recons its bollocks,she says its starsigns,leo males and scorpio women!oh well,back to the drawing board.
i agree completely with what the couple say from my limited experience.
Wat i wana know from every 1 and serendipity im sorry 2 slightly stray, but is it the environment u are in i.e the car where people arnt up close and personal or is it the thrill of watching or being watched?
Does it bother u if the person watching is a stranger and some 1 who u most likely will never see again?
Would the experience be better or worse if u were in the privacy of ur own home while u had a few people sit around and watch?
Is it the outside in the car park scenario or is it the actual watching and performing??????
I think the car park aspect adds extra safty to an extent. If you let a stranger into your home it is a bit "dodgy"(for want of a better word!), where as in a car park if you dont like something you can move on. I know my self that it is the risk factor as well as the show facotr that makes it so appealing to me.
You gotta love a guy who can get a fishing analogy from dogging, nice one goatboy
you raise an interesting point us,dogging is a kind of foreplay,the action really kicks off when we get home!!...we only play in the car,with a view to being watched,but usually we get started before anyone is around the vehicle,choosing to switch the interior on when we are into our stride so to speak!!.....now,take last night,midnight.....mrs dirty,the master and myself were up for some entertainment,nobody in the carpark,but its a busy place,plenty of passing trade,so we decide to kick off,what comes,comes,(no inuendo intended)mrs d reclined,vibro on full,me n master all over her,nobody arrives,mrs d in the back with master,dildo replaces vibrating thing,well.i wont bore you with the details,but we were at it for excactly an hour,yeah,a whole bleeding hour!..she swallowed more seman than the bermuda triangle,and there was nobody to watch!..we were holding back,in case someone arrived,but in the end,passion took hold and we unleashed our lust down dirty's throat!!..so,yes,it does sometimes happen that couples end up on their ownsome!!
well i agree that the dogging aspect is a form of foreplay, even if nothing happens it is a turn on. over the last four months i've sat in carparks and seen nothing but still the thrill of driving to the carpark and sitting there gets me horny. and needless to say the wife enjoys it when i get back but herself is not ready to go outside to the carpark and be watched. Not that we haven't "done it" outside but the fantasy of being watched is enough for her at the moment, when she is ready she will be ready.
But when im out i do love it when the heart beats a little faster each time car headlights approach, and when it is the police doing a sweep that just reinforces the risk factor. I think that i must be addicted to the thrill.
Great Thread,
Got to say that I came into dogging by mistake one night just came across a cpls playing which at the time a though was amazing and still do. The thrill is the not knowing aspect. As a single guy u go out some nights hoping to find a nice cpl, u will sit ages in a car and see nothing but still u get the exciment. There is soming amazing if u find a cpl playing and so naughty about it. I am not really the kig of dogger that likes to stand around and chat all night. The thrill for me is the sitting there in quiet just waiting and fingers crossed getting a sexy cpl to play with.
I love also to find two cpls playing together in my location its quiet hard to find but great when u do find it.
ps if there are any cpls in cambs northants out weekdays then pm me!!!
Ok lets throw a cat among the pigeons:
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First, some definitions as derived from An Outline of Psycho-Analysis by Freud:
The id- The id is the most basic of mental apparatuses. Every animal has it. It's the "Give me, feed me, I want" desire.
The ego- The ego is charged with "self-preservation," maximizing pleasure, and reducing "unpleasure" (the last two are called the 'pleasure principle').
The Super-ego- The super ego is a collection of the biases, prejudices, and values that one develops as a child. Parental influence, racial and national traditions, and our peers all play a role in the development of the ego. The super-ego sets up the "limitations of satisfactions." Such limitations include:
not farting in public, using please and thank you, and taste in fashion (the super-ego decide what's cool and what's not cool to wear), etc.
The id-ego interaction
The id demands the satisfaction of it's needs without taking into account the danger that may be involved in attaining that satisfaction. That job is left up to the ego. The ego decides what the most comfortable way of satisfying the id is.
Instincts/Drives
The needs of the Id are called instincts or drives. Drives are "the ultimate cause of all activity." There are two basic drives. They are:
The Eros drive- The aim of the Eros drive is to establish unions and preserve them.
and
The destructive drive or the death instinct- This drive, the opposite of the Eros, aims to destroy connections. So, as to reduce tension and increase pleasure.
These drives, Freud points out, can be seen in the act of eating. One destroys the food (the destructive drive) to make it partof one's self (the eros drive).
So do people think that dogging is a combat between the Eros and Destructive drives, as if one is caught by peers outside of dogging peers the ego is destroyed/reduce in favour of the id and thus the doggers public life is damaged?
BBx
ok, mal, short and sweet but what is your driving force behind it, do you secretly want to get caught and have to face society judging you?
There has to be more than watching people have sex, you can do that in clubs and films do you enjoy the risk factor?
I don't analyse it, I just do it.
Given half the chance I would love to go out there, on my own, stand in the shadows and watch another couple.. the idea of that actually turns me on more than being part of the couple providing the show iyswim...
I have to say that it is not the risk factor that keeps me dogging but the unknown factor which drives me this comes down to your sexual drive for exciment, taking it to the next level.
If peers did find out, I would carry on that life, Is dogging not ahead of Freud's views.
happy dogging
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