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Lately we have seen a lot of adds on the forum saying things like "anyone dogging tonight in blah blah" then another half hr later saying "come on guys, there must be someone" etc when there is nothing on your profiles or adverts and we think that for sucess in advertising on here you have to give a little more than this!
Our SH pals necpluk are a good example of what type of thing you should be including in your profile etc, and although there ad posts are generally short it clearly state "as per our ad" which gives everything potential doggers nee to know.
When we occasionally look for dogging meets we always include a good description of exactly what we are after and give a good indication of who we are loooking for and where about we will be (without being too precise)!
we arenot preaching here but trying to get a few of the people that come on the forum who we see as chancers a bit of advice about what we dogging couples are looking for when we search for meet ups or the occasional single guy!
Put a bit about yourselves and what you are looking for, dont assume you are gonna get to have sex with the female, many couples are into the vouyeristic aspects only, and please dont reply if you have not read the posts or arenot what the couple advertising is looking for! this saves people like ourselves(who donot advertise that regularly to be honest) and the likes of necpluk who do, the time of reading replies that are wasting there time and having to delete them or reply back saying "can you read guys"
Come on doggers put a bit of effort in and get the scene back in full ermmm swing lol
I don't think the info in a persons profile has much to do with the "decline" in dogging.
I think the "decline" is more to do with the amount of performing couples becoming less, or staying the same, while the amount of guys is rising fast.
Loads of guys + the same amount of couples = "less" activity.
I also think that the "arranged" dogging (a contradictory statement.... more "arranged outdoor swinging") is suffering from this increase in potential "customers". Since many of the "arranged" meets seem to have a habit of appearing at known dogging sites, and then expect the people there to leave them alone. NO chance.
While some may think that arranged is the way forward (at least you can get home to the wife and kids on time, and no waiting) all the meets I have been present at have been somewhat uninteresting........but that may be because I knida like unplanned !
if you have an arranged meet planned...... DO NOT go to a dogging site, you'd be better off using the local police HQ carpark.
And, most of the profile info is grossly inaccurate, if there is any. At least my profile info says what I mean:
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I don't think the info in a persons profile has much to do with the "decline" in dogging.
I think the "decline" is more to do with the amount of performing couples becoming less, or staying the same, while the amount of guys is rising fast.
Loads of guys + the same amount of couples = "less" activity.
I also think that the "arranged" dogging (a contradictory statement.... more "arranged outdoor swinging") is suffering from this increase in potential "customers". Since many of the "arranged" meets seem to have a habit of appearing at known dogging sites, and then expect the people there to leave them alone. NO chance.
While some may think that arranged is the way forward (at least you can get home to the wife and kids on time, and no waiting) all the meets I have been present at have been somewhat uninteresting........but that may be because I knida like unplanned !
if you have an arranged meet planned...... DO NOT go to a dogging site, you'd be better off using the local police HQ carpark.
And, most of the profile info is grossly inaccurate, if there is any. At least my profile info says what I mean:

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Harsh words, and there was me thinking dogging sites where public places! Your right things are changing if only doggers can use car parks, now i wonder why theres a decline? everyone should be welcome at any site, if some don't want dogged go to the ones that do, my opionion is both sides are driving each other out and thats why its in decline and your post just backs that opinion up... for the record if we were setting up a private meet we dont use a well known dogging site, just in case you think i've took the hump, and with us being a straight couple we would normaly invite half a dozen single males along but according to you thats swinging not dogging, in which i totaly disagree on that too, and if you mean arranged meets with couples meeting couples only is swinging then please say so in your rant rather than any arranged meets are swinging. you'll probably find a lot of it is down to sexuality nowadays more women like women than ever before but never here this mentioned in these rants.
Not a rant, a statement.
With so many arranged meets taking place in daylight, it is hardly a problem for me. I'm "dark only".....it's called having some respect for the rest of humanity, that doesn't like being presented by a picnic bench with half-a-dozen guys shagging one woman. Try using nightime, or the middle of a large forest.
As for carparks being public places, that's right. That also includes their use by people for the purpose of listening to the radio, reading a paper, having a walk, taking the kids for a PICNIC on the picnic bench with loads of tissues around it....and by single guys
In my area it is in decline for a variety of reasons, apart from too many guys and very few couples (most of who use clubs now).....I won't even mention the police and their irritating policy of sending a card to the registered user of a vehicle asking what it was doing at *********location at a date and time.....I would imagine quite a few guys have had problems from that.
It'll recover. No doubt about that. Most of the guys coming into the game will just as easily go out of it when they don't get a leg-over every day....the rest will wait...as usual !
And just for the record, most of the couples I've seen in the past don't arrange things....something to do with chance, and excitement.
Oh, and I don't "DO" joining-in.....I'm "watching only"......less visits to the gum clinic.
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I don't think the info in a persons profile has much to do with the "decline" in dogging.
I think the "decline" is more to do with the amount of performing couples becoming less, or staying the same, while the amount of guys is rising fast.
Loads of guys + the same amount of couples = "less" activity.
I also think that the "arranged" dogging (a contradictory statement.... more "arranged outdoor swinging") is suffering from this increase in potential "customers". Since many of the "arranged" meets seem to have a habit of appearing at known dogging sites, and then expect the people there to leave them alone. NO chance!
While some may think that arranged is the way forward (at least you can get home to the wife and kids on time, and no waiting) all the meets I have been present at have been somewhat uninteresting........but that may be because I knida like unplanned !
if you have an arranged meet planned...... DO NOT go to a dogging site, you'd be better off using the local police HQ carpark.
And, most of the profile info is grossly inaccurate, if there is any. At least my profile info says what I mean:

The bit in bold and underlined is the bit that worries me jomu you claim to be an etiquette and old style dogger and have had previous threads (what a great facility SH wink ) on here saying as much yet you then say the above!! Slightly irresponsible of such a pillar of dogging etiquette that you seem to be condoning the very thing that puts a lot of people off known sites and onto these "pre - arranged" meets that you seem to be so verhemently against dont you think?
If people want to be left alone then surely they should be respected and left alone not swarmed around like its open season on the shooting range???? Is that not why we have "dogging etiquette"??
Also i mentioned nothing in my thread about "dogging decline" i thimk you may be guilty of putting words in my mouth, i was clearly highlighting the fact that a hell of a lot of posts on the dogging section are less than informative and was not criticising, merely trying to offer a bit of help to people who come on SH and wonder why they get no "action" when there is very little about them to merit any attention!
Anyway, i think it is again a clear case of people either not reading posts on here (as the initial thread was about and has now seemed to be proven, thanks jomu) or those more regular users trying for whatever reason to read too much into things or have as our scots friends have said,have a rant rolleyes
may i throw the cat among the pigeons and suggest theres a DECLINE in allsorts of meets not just doggin and wonder if it's due to the fact that so many peeps get off sat at home watching the action on the cams in the chatrooms.
Yes.
What decline ?
I was in a carpark last night with about a dozen guys waiting....
No couple....mind you, saturday night is club night.
In any case, the increasing amount of guys "dogging" is SOLELY due to the amount of PUBLICITY.
Read through the Sports ads (yes, I know nobody reads the Sport...but for a well-sold 'paper ?)...dogging ads everywhere. And in every sex mag...and look at the amount of websites dealing with sex, all of which feature dogging somewhere.
Lastly, thankyou for your comments about etiquette. We'd all like rules to be followed, and etiquette to be observed. But they aren't, and it isn't. LOADS of guys wanting, to be basic, a shag. Then a couple show-up and it turns-out that they've arranged a show for two guys who don't even dogg that location. Am I missing something ?
If you arrange to meet someone at any known site you are NOT going to be alone, and it is a bit inconsiderate to go there and expect to be.
I think we may have gone off in different directions on this thread, and while I do FULLY agree with what Srne said in their first post, I also fully agree with what Jomu has said, but that is because I think they are generally referring to different things.
If couples/singles are advertising for meets, and then come on here an hour or so later complaining they didnt get any response, then I do agree that in a lot of cases (but not all cases) it is down to lack of info and effort put in by the person placing the ad.
I also fully agree that it is more outdoor swinging that dogging when doing these pre-arranged meets, but I am one of those who say each to their own (but still wish people wouldnt call it dogging when it isnt dogging, but then again, its just another label).
We have some friends who do advertise for other couples to meet at local dogging sites, and they dont invite any single males. Why, cause the car parks are already full of the old fashioned, get off your arse and find the places, type doggers. No need to advertise, simple! Is this real dogging?? Dunno and dont really care, so long as it works for the people concerned, and no one is being harmed then good luck to everyone involved.
What does really get my back up is people complaining they went to a public car park, normally used for dogging, for a pre-arranged meet and then complain that there were doggers in the car park :shock: As Jomu said, if you are going to complain about their being single doggers there, then use a non-dogging site, that way, you have a much better chance of it being just you and the person/people you want to meet.
If you dont want to be watched why go to a dogging site??? Surely that is a bit of a contradiction of terms? Dogging is about being watched and watching, so why complain that someone wanted to watch??
Or perhaps it isnt dogging that SOME of these people are in to, perhaps it is, afterall, outdoor swinging wink
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I also fully agree that it is more outdoor swinging than dogging when doing these pre-arranged meets, but I am one of those who say each to their own (but still wish people wouldnt call it dogging when it isnt dogging, but then again, its just another label). wink

So if a couple sets up a pre-arranged meet, say for example they advertise for 5 males and meet at a car park somewhere and put on a show, that’s swinging? Or are you assuming everyone who posts an ad wants them all to join in? To me that’s still exhibitionism & voyeurism and that in my opinion is more like dogging than swinging.
You may well be talking about couples advertising for couples when you mention the swinging scenario and if this is the case then you should clearly state that rather than state you regard all pre-arranged meets as swinging not dogging, I disagree as there has to be swinging involved for it to be swinging.
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I also fully agree that it is more outdoor swinging than dogging when doing these pre-arranged meets, but I am one of those who say each to their own (but still wish people wouldnt call it dogging when it isnt dogging, but then again, its just another label). wink

So if a couple sets up a pre-arranged meet, say for example they advertise for 5 males and meet at a car park somewhere and put on a show, that’s swinging? Or are you assuming everyone who posts an ad wants them all to join in? To me that’s still exhibitionism & voyeurism and that in my opinion is more like dogging than swinging.
You may well be talking about couples advertising for couples when you mention the swinging scenario and if this is the case then you should clearly state that rather than state you regard all pre-arranged meets as swinging not dogging, I disagree as there has to be swinging involved for it to be swinging.
Perhaps you should have read the whole post rather than just jumping in on certain parts of it. Maybe try reading this bit .......
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Is this real dogging?? Dunno and dont really care, so long as it works for the people concerned, and no one is being harmed then good luck to everyone involved.

Or the part from the paragraph you quoted, which I have underlined.
I have not stated anywhere in my post that I class all pre-arranged meets as outdoor swinging. You show me where it says that cause I cant see it, rolleyes
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I also fully agree that it is more outdoor swinging that dogging when doing these pre-arranged meets

Anyway back to the original thread, yes I also think people should take the time to fill out there profile and make a little effort, not just when posting for meets but when they join the site, there’s nothing worse than someone asking you to have a look at their profile and see if your interested, and when you open it it’s full of N/A’s with no description whatsoever, then the same person’s have a moan on the forums that the site is crap, but to be honest I’m of the opinion single males should never need to post looking for meets in a dogging forum as if their genuine enough they’ll know where to find it, posting here is being lazy and saves them time hanging around car parks so why do you expect the same people to take time to fill there profile out properly
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I also fully agree that it is more outdoor swinging that dogging when doing these pre-arranged meets

Still cant see where I said ALL meets are outdoor swinging dunno but perhaps if you had taken the time and bothered to read ALL of it, rather than bits you just felt like pulling to pieces you would see that I also stated it is just another label, and who cares what it is called so long as it works.
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I also fully agree that it is more outdoor swinging that dogging when doing these pre-arranged meets

Still cant see where I said ALL meets are outdoor swinging dunno but perhaps if you had taken the time and bothered to read ALL of it, rather than bits you just felt like pulling to pieces you would see that I also stated it is just another label, and who cares what it is called so long as it works.
I did read all of it and if you didn't mean ALL as you keep pointing out, then what did you mean? that was what i was asking in the first place as all you wrote was these pre-arranged meets And yes i know its just a label, but i merely pointed out that for anything to be classed as swinging it must surely involve swinging confused: sorry if this is so wrong.
I'm not a swinger, never been one and never will be.
I'm a dogger.
I don't do meets.
I also don't fill-out a profile with info that others won't need, and given the notoriety of dogging, I never will. (Stan, eat your heart out)
Also, since I know several people on this site personally, I can say that many of the profiles are inaccurate....to be charitable.
Personally, I'm all for arranged meets. Just arrange them somewhere else and not near me.
If anymore arranged meets show up at the layby in DAYTIME and the couple "get on with the job" while their arrangees stand outside wanking, while the more staid members of society are walking their dogs and children in the wood, I'll phone the law myself.
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Personally, I'm all for arranged meets. Just arrange them somewhere else and not near me.
If anymore arranged meets show up at the layby in DAYTIME and the couple "get on with the job" while their arrangees stand outside wanking, while the more staid members of society are walking their dogs and children in the wood, I'll phone the law myself.

Quite right too, but whats that got to do with this thread confused:
Well well this has opened up a right can of worms i need a good old spanking i think lol
Anyway my opinion on the whole dogging/swinging outdoors thing is this:
If you are a couple and want to dog/swing outdoors then fine, and if you dont want loads of guys swamping you (which they inevitably will) dont go to known sites (i agree with NWC and Jomu on that note)! If you dont mind the fact that a lot of guys will inevitably come over then you'll be fine with the more "known sites" and if you do find outdoor sites that arent dogging sites like me and my lady have done and that suits us fine.
We are in a sense not "real doggers" in the labelled term, we donot really like going to sites that are used by the general dogging mass and unfortunately we are not alone and this has resulted in the "decline" you mentioned jomu. This isnt because of people like yourself (you seem to be more "ye olde style dogger" for want of a better term wink ) this is because of the media interest which has in-turn escalated doging into a way for a quick shag wannabe or chancer to get a shag (or at the very least think that they might)!!
anyway will probs start a thread up based on this type of thing as soon as i get my housework done (RNE really likes the dusting done and if i dont im in trouble :lol: ) and get the forum all heat up again, the way it should be, keeps it interesting!!
TTFN......
good point you 2,any do we swing ,yup are we doggers mmm dont really know,what do we do ,swinging we meet cpls with bi fems or bi fems,dogging well we like to go out and be watched by a male not more than one, so what are we, well tell you the truth cant give a fook really,we gog n do what we feel what we want to do and really cant be bothered with a lable of swingers or dogers we are what we are lol any way the interior lights just flashed :shock:
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I'm not a swinger, never been one and never will be.I'm a dogger.
I don't do meets.
I also don't fill-out a profile with info that others won't need, and given the notoriety of dogging, I never will. (Stan, eat your heart out)
Also, since I know several people on this site personally, I can say that many of the profiles are inaccurate....to be charitable.
Personally, I'm all for arranged meets. Just arrange them somewhere else and not near me.

now i know swinging heaven has a doggin forum / add page but what jomu wrote (highlighted in bold above) has me scratching my head,as on the home page it clearly states GENUINE UK SWINGERS ENTER SWINGING HEAVEN HERE else PLEASE LEAVE NOW.
plus if you don't state your location in your profile how can peeps keep away from where you watch couples. may i ad also it's because of the rise in watchers only that some couples who actively seek other guys participation don't dog anymore.
The watchers have always outnumbered the do-ers, dogging is about watching, what it started as, and still continues as.
The DECLINE has been caused by the large amount of people who want sex without any ties (or cost) due to the massive publicity.
Personally, I care less.
As for not giving my name, address and location.....................who are you ?
Are you COCKSLUT, giver of love, lust sex, etc ?
Or Silvia ********, well known undercover newspaper shithead ?
At the moment there are 3 people doing the rounds of this county pretending to be "doggers".
The couple are known to be local press from northants, the single scottish guy is assumed to be police...both sets ask too many questions and do too little.
No doubt you'd love to be the NOTW centre spread, most wouldn't.
And I very much doubt if the majority of people using this particular forum are swingers....
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And I very much doubt if the majority of people using this particular forum are swingers....

Perhaps thats why it's the dogging section of a forum with a wide variety of people and their personal choices ?
Personally I like pre arranged in non dogging locations - that way we , the participants, get what we want.
Personal choice - suits me! At the end of the day I like sex or being watched by strangers I have no ties with and it's not always the same want or desire - Don't know what the big deal is.
And I don't read newspapers - So it must b the 't' interent that sparked my interest.
However on topic - I do wish people would give some idea of their requirments in their profiles or ads - why bother otherwise ? It certainly determines who i do or do not contact.
What will be will be - tis all about choice smile
Sorry to hear about the problems down your way but don’t take it out on us, not all people who do pre-arranged meets take gangbangs on picnic benches, perform in lay-bys in broad daylight, work for the press or are cops or even want to see a name and address in a profile before considering a meet or have no respect for the rest of humanity. Cant speak for everyone but we’re here for a little extra buzz in life and definitely not here to judge others because any activity doesn’t meet our etiquette on any label given, there's always gonna be bad eggs out there in any walk of life, that doesn't mean all are the same, like you said your not a swinger or don't do pre-arranged meets so why fill out your profile? The answer is you don't, the thread was regarding people that DO, and that don’t even have so much as a rough location in their profile never mind anything else.
We are just normal members of this site, we're not the enemy!
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As for not giving my name, address and location.....................who are you ?
Are you COCKSLUT, giver of love, lust sex, etc ?
Or Silvia ********, well known undercover newspaper shithead ?
i'm one of the very genuine swingers on here who says what they mean and mean what they could probably get 1000 names to vouch for US.
typical..we go away for a few days, come back to discover a 22 replier and its taken such a tangent i can't figure out an angle to come at it :cry: lol so i'll start back at the beggining maybe, or has the moment been lost already? redface
of course, most of the couples that come to the dogging board in order to recruit, are going to be selective..i say most, because obviously some might go through the fellas so enthusiastically that any detail other than "have cock" will suffice, and indeed be rewarded with a "you have PM hun xxxxxxxxxx"..the endearing sentiments in said reply indicative that the poster has something to offer the couple, in this case, a cock, and that alone makes him desireable, important and worthy of respect..
however..for the majority of couples, the fellas aren't regarded as consumables. :lol: with a huge amount of available dogger on offer, most couples will have to narrow their choices down..most will actually become more selective than they imagined they could be, simply through the amount of choice..then details start to count..if you went to a garage showroom for a car, and such vehicles were short of supply, or not much in the way of choice..then buying would be easy..when presented with fifty makes, all with several models in several available colours at the same price..then yes, the colour of the ashtrays start to become a consideration..
what many of these hopefulls overlook is not only the fact that their profile matters, but their posting history becomes part of their CV too wink ..we, like jomu, don't do arranged..it says so on our signature, but of course it doesn't stop requests from guys wanting a private fuck with mrs dirty back at their place :lol: it doesn't annoy us, mostly its a source of amusement..we never reply to such messages with sarcasm..we just don't reply..
when we did actually advertise for a meet with some of the so called voyeurs on the board..the response was huge..more so than i'd ever anticipated..actually it was embarrassing surprisedops: we weren't selective however, instead taking six guys on a first come first served basis..more or less..however, on the night of reckoning it soon became apparent that the desire to watch was far greater given the fluffy cushion of a distant fantasy than it was five minutes before they were due to set off for the meeting..only one of the fellas showed up..one other apologised for getting the directions wrong and we never heard again from the remainder :lol: had we done some research, we might have been more aware of who the "doers" were..as it were, we took them on trust :lol: :lol: ..
personally, i think it matters little what guys have on their profile..if there isn't enough available information to encourage a couple to then look into their posting history, then basically, they've fallen at the second hurdle..the first being wether their post was of enough interest to warrant looking at their profile of course..and obviously, most aren't...probably the majority of newbie fellas see this dogging malarky as the answer to their prayers..its already been mentioned that a quick flick through the "sport" will convey the message that carparks are heaving with nymphomaniac slut models who simply cannot get enough prick into them..yes, the guys believe it. :lol: those pictures are invented by those who seek to profit from such dumb-asses..those adverts cost thousands to produce, and they make thousands from them :lol: we've seen those fellas in the carparks with their incoming text alerts :lol: we've been approached by them many times..they still can't believe they've been "had"..so they come to the dogging board to ask "where's the dogging at"? and they still imagine the girls are gonna rip their little winkies out when they get here with their advertised availability and willingness to service...the penny will drop, eventually :wink: but there will be a thousand more tommorow rolleyes :lol:
worship
I'm so glad you are back! lol
I have been watching this thread but unable to put a decent answer together that wouldn't offend. But you came along with a much better one in any case.
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typical..we go away for a few days, come back to discover a 22 replier and its taken such a tangent i can't figure out an angle to come at it :cry: lol so i'll start back at the beggining maybe, or has the moment been lost already? redface
of course, most of the couples that come to the dogging board in order to recruit, are going to be selective..i say most, because obviously some might go through the fellas so enthusiastically that any detail other than "have cock" will suffice, and indeed be rewarded with a "you have PM hun xxxxxxxxxx"..the endearing sentiments in said reply indicative that the poster has something to offer the couple, in this case, a cock, and that alone makes him desireable, important and worthy of respect..
however..for the majority of couples, the fellas aren't regarded as consumables. :lol: with a huge amount of available dogger on offer, most couples will have to narrow their choices down..most will actually become more selective than they imagined they could be, simply through the amount of choice..then details start to count..if you went to a garage showroom for a car, and such vehicles were short of supply, or not much in the way of choice..then buying would be easy..when presented with fifty makes, all with several models in several available colours at the same price..then yes, the colour of the ashtrays start to become a consideration..
what many of these hopefulls overlook is not only the fact that their profile matters, but their posting history becomes part of their CV too wink ..we, like jomu, don't do arranged..it says so on our signature, but of course it doesn't stop requests from guys wanting a private fuck with mrs dirty back at their place :lol: it doesn't annoy us, mostly its a source of amusement..we never reply to such messages with sarcasm..we just don't reply..
when we did actually advertise for a meet with some of the so called voyeurs on the board..the response was huge..more so than i'd ever anticipated..actually it was embarrassing surprisedops: we weren't selective however, instead taking six guys on a first come first served basis..more or less..however, on the night of reckoning it soon became apparent that the desire to watch was far greater given the fluffy cushion of a distant fantasy than it was five minutes before they were due to set off for the meeting..only one of the fellas showed up..one other apologised for getting the directions wrong and we never heard again from the remainder :lol: had we done some research, we might have been more aware of who the "doers" were..as it were, we took them on trust :lol: :lol: ..
personally, i think it matters little what guys have on their profile..if there isn't enough available information to encourage a couple to then look into their posting history, then basically, they've fallen at the second hurdle..the first being wether their post was of enough interest to warrant looking at their profile of course..and obviously, most aren't...probably the majority of newbie fellas see this dogging malarky as the answer to their prayers..its already been mentioned that a quick flick through the "sport" will convey the message that carparks are heaving with nymphomaniac slut models who simply cannot get enough prick into them..yes, the guys believe it. :lol: those pictures are invented by those who seek to profit from such dumb-asses..those adverts cost thousands to produce, and they make thousands from them :lol: we've seen those fellas in the carparks with their incoming text alerts :lol: we've been approached by them many times..they still can't believe they've been "had"..so they come to the dogging board to ask "where's the dogging at"? and they still imagine the girls are gonna rip their little winkies out when they get here with their advertised availability and willingness to service...the penny will drop, eventually :wink: but there will be a thousand more tommorow rolleyes :lol:

good thread DD, good thread!!
so how about a pre arranged meet then :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
re prearranged meets, it maybe that the couple go to a well known site knowing
that if out of the 10 or so guys they have invited only two show up they can pick
from those already there to make up the numbers and still have a good time without having to go home feeling let down.
One of the reason's I suppose its in decline is the obvious which everyone already mentions, that of publicity and these unhelpful ads to mug punters. Anyone that believes in these better join the queue with those thinking telephone card ads will really lead them to former Playboy models offering their 'services'.
I think I've come to the conclusion that you're gonna be more successful as part of a couple anyway. The first time I went I 'got lucky' if you might call it that, but since then nothing and this was about 1 year and a half ago. Having said that I have pulled up to carparks with couples waiting, even bickering (!) but not signalling me as a single guy. If they're not interested, not much you can do. I know that if I'd have gone with my partner, probably a much better chance. Don't think I'd like too many guys watching me as part of a couple.
Doesn't help the type of single men turning up. One fucking penis at a site I went to recently parked his car horizontally facing mine with his lights on and then went and parked virtually on top of a couple (I nicely waited a good 10 metres away). Needless to say they fucked off after about 10 seconds.
No easy ones but something to think about
Perhaps I shouldn't mention this, again, BUT:
Your chances of scoring, guys, goes up if you're wearing a dress....along with nicely-done hair, make-up and some decent shoes....high heels a must....and be prepared to "service" both partners !
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re prearranged meets, it maybe that the couple go to a well known site knowing
that if out of the 10 or so guys they have invited only two show up they can pick
from those already there to make up the numbers and still have a good time without having to go home feeling let down.

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