m8 only willl die if open mind allow
it plenty get neg on here feck that let show our brains and out smart
this has always been 1 step ahead
20 yrs down the line we will have dogging vone's
Sex God
Join the most popular community of UK swingers now
Login
Dogging in discreet locations north west
Quote by jomu
"never seen a dogger watching without wanking"
So, you're a voyeur...dogger that is.
There's nothing illegal about wanking....everyone does it. It's not even illegal doing it outside.
It's illegal if you do it and someone SEES you doing it and is OFFENDED by the action.
BUT THEN, so is SEX outside...
Like everything "illegal".......it depends on your viewpoint.
And who are they going to arrest at a "dogging" site ?
Doggers ?
Most "dogging" sites are also gay cruising sites.....me, I'll change orientation like a shot...better gay than arrested.
I think you've got an attitude problem.
Another newby in for a free shag............................
Go to a red light area....and pay for it.
Illegal to watch uninvited for ones own sexual gratification. They will make an example of a dogger soon.
Exactly what attitude problem do you diagnose?
Newby free shag? Had one once at Shirley Hills..1975 I think..had to queue tho!
Quote by funnyenough
I'm neither a solicitor, police or press....just making the point that DOGGING is illegal. Never seen a dogger watching without wanking!!
If its illegal SH should shut the Dogging Forum..fullstop.
Funnyenough
Why if you consider this forum needs to be closed down do you continue to post on it,
Am I wrong in thinking that, given your recent history of fairly negative postings and general attitude, this may not be the place for you. Are you after meeting members or just on a wind up ???? Convince me please.
Jackie and Ben
xxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Jackie & Ben
"fairly negative postings"
Wel, l posted a reply on The Cafe and was deleted by an un-named Mod in ridiculous cirumstances...only because I am considered a newbie..read the posts! Nothing negative in my post. No response from the offending Mod but 2 posts by sympathetic Mods.
My stance on the Dogging Forum and conveyed in my posts in reply to Jomu is that if it is now an illegal activity..Dogging not Swinging in carparks..then the Dogging Forum should close.
You may choose to frequent carparks and be available to couples and single guys but you are not Doggers and should post in Lets Meet Up. Hope this doesnt offend you.
I joined this site after watching for quite a while knowing that newbies often have difficulty integrating at first..I didn't expect such a hostile attack on my first innocuous post but I shall persevere despite personal attacks by established members!!! Not you of course.
"fairly negative postings"
Wel, l posted a reply on The Cafe and was deleted by an un-named Mod in ridiculous cirumstances...only because I am considered a newbie..read the posts! Nothing negative in my post. No response from the offending Mod but 2 posts by sympathetic Mods.
My stance on the Dogging Forum and conveyed in my posts in reply to Jomu is that if it is now an illegal activity..Dogging not Swinging in carparks..then the Dogging Forum should close.
You may choose to frequent carparks and be available to couples and single guys but you are not Doggers and should post in Lets Meet Up. Hope this doesnt offend you.
I joined this site after watching for quite a while knowing that newbies often have difficulty integrating at first..I didn't expect such a hostile attack on my first innocuous post but I shall persevere despite personal attacks by established members!!! Not you of course.
Hi Funnyenough
Dogging and sex in car parks has always been illeagal under various public order and indecency laws, so its not new, just a new set of laws. The new laws were not actually set up to stop dogging, they are just being waved around by the police who are under increasing pressure from the w***kers from the tabloid rags.
Good luck and spend some time settling in.
Love
Jackie and Ben
xxxxxxxxxxx
Dogging and sex in car parks has always been illeagal under various public order and indecency laws, so its not new, just a new set of laws. The new laws were not actually set up to stop dogging, they are just being waved around by the police who are under increasing pressure from the w***kers from the tabloid rags.
Good luck and spend some time settling in.
Love
Jackie and Ben
xxxxxxxxxxx
Voyeurism
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) for the purpose of obtaining sexual gratification, he observes another person doing a private act, and
(b) he knows that the other person does not consent to being observed for his sexual gratification.
68 Voyeurism: interpretation
(1) For the purposes of section 67, a person is doing a private act if the person is in a place which, in the circumstances, would reasonably be expected to provide privacy, and-
(a) the person's genitals, buttocks or breasts are exposed or covered only with underwear,
(b) the person is using a lavatory, or
(c) the person is doing a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public.
That takes care of the sexoffact2003.
Note: Sexual gratification.
Prove:Sexual gratification
Lets see, does a car park fall under 68(1)
Hmmm...difficult question.
Fortunately, my legal advisor considers it unlikely to so fall.
And in any case, the car park in question is one regularly visited by the minions of law enforcement AND by RAF police, with dogs ....it being only a few hundred metres from an intelligence establishment....I would reasonably expect not to be disturbed by dick-hanging prats at 2330z ....
In which case:
Exposure
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he intentionally exposes his genitals, and
(b) he intends that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress.
(2) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable-
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or both;
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years.
Now, there I was peacefully listening to radio 1 at a car park when in drive 3 cars and I was alarmed and distressed to see several males displaying their genitalia with reckless abandonment....
But, rather more interestingly, there were also two foxes looking....
Not to mention the wildlife party further in the wood...this lot must have wondered who was in the THREE other cars but just didn't care.
Several males having sex with other parties is still gross indecency....if done in public.
I think in your stay in here you may like to dwell less on others morality, and more on why a person with your obvious morally upright stance is here anyway....as I am sure others are doing even as I type.
You're on a website dedicated to sexual extravagance and mild sexual depravity and you've adopted a moral stance at odds with the prevailing mood.
Weird.
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) for the purpose of obtaining sexual gratification, he observes another person doing a private act, and
(b) he knows that the other person does not consent to being observed for his sexual gratification.
68 Voyeurism: interpretation
(1) For the purposes of section 67, a person is doing a private act if the person is in a place which, in the circumstances, would reasonably be expected to provide privacy, and-
(a) the person's genitals, buttocks or breasts are exposed or covered only with underwear,
(b) the person is using a lavatory, or
(c) the person is doing a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public.
That takes care of the sexoffact2003.
Note: Sexual gratification.
Prove:Sexual gratification
Lets see, does a car park fall under 68(1)
Hmmm...difficult question.
Fortunately, my legal advisor considers it unlikely to so fall.
And in any case, the car park in question is one regularly visited by the minions of law enforcement AND by RAF police, with dogs ....it being only a few hundred metres from an intelligence establishment....I would reasonably expect not to be disturbed by dick-hanging prats at 2330z ....
In which case:
Exposure
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he intentionally exposes his genitals, and
(b) he intends that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress.
(2) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable-
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or both;
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years.
Now, there I was peacefully listening to radio 1 at a car park when in drive 3 cars and I was alarmed and distressed to see several males displaying their genitalia with reckless abandonment....
But, rather more interestingly, there were also two foxes looking....
Not to mention the wildlife party further in the wood...this lot must have wondered who was in the THREE other cars but just didn't care.
Several males having sex with other parties is still gross indecency....if done in public.
I think in your stay in here you may like to dwell less on others morality, and more on why a person with your obvious morally upright stance is here anyway....as I am sure others are doing even as I type.
You're on a website dedicated to sexual extravagance and mild sexual depravity and you've adopted a moral stance at odds with the prevailing mood.
Weird.
ooooooooooooooooooooh!!
Don't belong here in your opinion....get back to the Regiment.. in your dreams of course!!
By the way you are going to apologise for calling me a "prissy bag of shit" aren't you?
No.. I thought not...still you make me laugh little pontificating man.
"pontificate"
verb {I}
to speak or write and give your opinion about something as if you knew everything about it and as if only your opinion was correct:
Don't belong here in your opinion....get back to the Regiment.. in your dreams of course!!
By the way you are going to apologise for calling me a "prissy bag of shit" aren't you?
No.. I thought not...still you make me laugh little pontificating man.
"pontificate"
verb {I}
to speak or write and give your opinion about something as if you knew everything about it and as if only your opinion was correct:
Could it be that the bloke is just a twat and winding you all up? 
We welcome debate and discussion here. We don't welcome or allow idiots taking the high moral ground from a premise of ignorance or deeply held individual mores.
Now, if you don't think Dogging is your thing then go to another site and spout your misconceived legal position somewhere else. Otherwise stay and enjoy the company of the many good people who populate and enrich the land we call Swinging Heaven.
We welcome debate and discussion here. We don't welcome or allow idiots taking the high moral ground from a premise of ignorance or deeply held individual mores.
Now, if you don't think Dogging is your thing then go to another site and spout your misconceived legal position somewhere else. Otherwise stay and enjoy the company of the many good people who populate and enrich the land we call Swinging Heaven.
Jags......I am not a twat obscene terms for female genitals
a man who is a stupid fool ] nor am I taking the high moral ground.
If you read my posts correctly you will see that I advocate closing the Doggers Forum as it is used by the Press, Police and other undesireables to locate active sites.
You will also note that I do not believe that couples arranging meets in car parks are Doggers..they are Swingers and are best catered for in Lets Meet Up.
As for taking the high moral ground I have admitted to joining the queue at Shirley Hills in 1975 as a frsh young newbie up for a free shag..tongue in cheek I asked Heather if it was her in the Mini!!
Not to labour the point an established poster is allowed to call me a "prissy bag of shit" and get away with it despite breaching AUP. I would ask you to please remove the offending post.
I am not here to get my kicks winding you up but would appreciate a fair crack of the whip......................................................................did I say that!!
a man who is a stupid fool ] nor am I taking the high moral ground.
If you read my posts correctly you will see that I advocate closing the Doggers Forum as it is used by the Press, Police and other undesireables to locate active sites.
You will also note that I do not believe that couples arranging meets in car parks are Doggers..they are Swingers and are best catered for in Lets Meet Up.
As for taking the high moral ground I have admitted to joining the queue at Shirley Hills in 1975 as a frsh young newbie up for a free shag..tongue in cheek I asked Heather if it was her in the Mini!!
Not to labour the point an established poster is allowed to call me a "prissy bag of shit" and get away with it despite breaching AUP. I would ask you to please remove the offending post.
I am not here to get my kicks winding you up but would appreciate a fair crack of the whip......................................................................did I say that!!
Sex God
Quote by Jags
this guy WAS a twat!!!:lol:
:shock:
Do I detect the remnants of a small mushroom cloud emanating from the direction of the Mod room in Swinging Heaven, per chance? 
Sexlightened
In my humble opinion.
Illegal or not, at the end of the day, who cares? (aside from the police of course), if you are not harming anyone, then what is the problem?
This is why we go to "discreet" places if possible - so that we don't offend anyone who does not choose to be there. My wife and I have been approached by the police twice and to be honest, it scared the shit out of us, but people have been having sex in cars for years now and has never been a problem. It is just because it has become popular to arrange meets that people are seeing it as perverse.
We tend to avoid dogging spots now, and have been messed about so many times now by supposed "genuine" people, that we just tend to stick to swingers clubs now. The last time we went to a popular spot in stockport, it was busy, we tried to have a little fun, and then I looked up to see about 20-30 guys all on their way over.... we freaked and left, and have never been back since.
Personally, I think that the problem is that so many people are out just for the cheap thrill of catching someone at it, and not really properly into the scene. As normal, the majority spoil it for the minority.
I think the bad-mouthing in this post is just getting out of hand... at the end of the day, if you don't agree with the forum, or website or whatever.... don't read it. The whole point of the website is for people to share an interest, so just let us do that.
As for any press reading this... if you are so desperate for a story that you need to trawl through websites to try and catch one - then just get a life or a new job.
hope I have not caused offense in my opinions - am just interested in having fun and that is why I visit this site, just felt like I wanted to add my two pennies worth (or maybe quids worth by the time I've finished)
thanks
J.
Illegal or not, at the end of the day, who cares? (aside from the police of course), if you are not harming anyone, then what is the problem?
This is why we go to "discreet" places if possible - so that we don't offend anyone who does not choose to be there. My wife and I have been approached by the police twice and to be honest, it scared the shit out of us, but people have been having sex in cars for years now and has never been a problem. It is just because it has become popular to arrange meets that people are seeing it as perverse.
We tend to avoid dogging spots now, and have been messed about so many times now by supposed "genuine" people, that we just tend to stick to swingers clubs now. The last time we went to a popular spot in stockport, it was busy, we tried to have a little fun, and then I looked up to see about 20-30 guys all on their way over.... we freaked and left, and have never been back since.
Personally, I think that the problem is that so many people are out just for the cheap thrill of catching someone at it, and not really properly into the scene. As normal, the majority spoil it for the minority.
I think the bad-mouthing in this post is just getting out of hand... at the end of the day, if you don't agree with the forum, or website or whatever.... don't read it. The whole point of the website is for people to share an interest, so just let us do that.
As for any press reading this... if you are so desperate for a story that you need to trawl through websites to try and catch one - then just get a life or a new job.
hope I have not caused offense in my opinions - am just interested in having fun and that is why I visit this site, just felt like I wanted to add my two pennies worth (or maybe quids worth by the time I've finished)
thanks
J.
