we were discussing with another couple,our experiences of doing shows,and certain aspects of had recently signaled a guy to watch them at play,his attitude since,left them with the impression he was disgruntled at having been dragged away from hugging trees,and not gotton a shag.....ok,before we all go into one,it was only an impression,but,it would be interesting to know what guys expect these blokes,or ladies,would be happy to see a show,with involvement being a bonus,but,we do seem to be noticing more guys expecting sex,and some of the postings from newbies seem to confirm that the definition of "dogging" is tending towards the more jomu will colour the picture with his observations?
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Personally I'm a dogging virgin...
I've been to swingers parties, and the emphasis there was on participation.
But even so, there were a lot of guys who were happy to stand there and
pleasure themselves. In fact a lot of them seemed to get off on the fact
that they were stood there wanking in front of so many people watching them.
The first time I went I just watched, until I was asked to join in by a married
couple. The wife called me over and asked me to suck her nipples... Her
hubby just looked me up and down and said "you'd better do as she
says, she's very bossy". I nearly came there and then! :shock:
But I would say I'd be happy to watch unless I got asked to join in - I'd
not be brave enough to ask!
I've been to swingers parties, and the emphasis there was on participation.
But even so, there were a lot of guys who were happy to stand there and
pleasure themselves. In fact a lot of them seemed to get off on the fact
that they were stood there wanking in front of so many people watching them.
The first time I went I just watched, until I was asked to join in by a married
couple. The wife called me over and asked me to suck her nipples... Her
hubby just looked me up and down and said "you'd better do as she
says, she's very bossy". I nearly came there and then! :shock:
But I would say I'd be happy to watch unless I got asked to join in - I'd
not be brave enough to ask!
I found your post very interesting and I wonder if anyone can give me a little advice
Tonight for the first time I ventured to a well know site in Scotland just to see what the dogging thing is all about.
To be honest I did not expect any cars to be there (around ) but there were two parked side by side. I parked a dozen or so yards away from them. In fact I was not sure if the cars were occupied.
This is where I got confused (lost my bottle?) I switched my lights off and sat for around five minutes when the car nearest me interior light came on,it was definatly occupied,I could see a couple in the back seats.
The windows were steamed up tho and I could not get a good light stayed on for about 20-30 secs then went off.
What should I have done next? I put my interior light on a couple of times but never left the car for fear I got a mouthful.
Did I do the right thing? or was the fact that the two cars were parked side by side mean that they were already adequatly dogged?
I am not even sure the second car was occupied it may have been one of the couples and it may be where they meet?
I will definatly go back (hopefully persuade my partner) so any advice /opinions would be helpfull as I dont want to offend.
Cheers
Mongoose
Tonight for the first time I ventured to a well know site in Scotland just to see what the dogging thing is all about.
To be honest I did not expect any cars to be there (around ) but there were two parked side by side. I parked a dozen or so yards away from them. In fact I was not sure if the cars were occupied.
This is where I got confused (lost my bottle?) I switched my lights off and sat for around five minutes when the car nearest me interior light came on,it was definatly occupied,I could see a couple in the back seats.
The windows were steamed up tho and I could not get a good light stayed on for about 20-30 secs then went off.
What should I have done next? I put my interior light on a couple of times but never left the car for fear I got a mouthful.
Did I do the right thing? or was the fact that the two cars were parked side by side mean that they were already adequatly dogged?
I am not even sure the second car was occupied it may have been one of the couples and it may be where they meet?
I will definatly go back (hopefully persuade my partner) so any advice /opinions would be helpfull as I dont want to offend.
Cheers
Mongoose
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we were discussing with another couple,our experiences of doing shows,and certain aspects of had recently signaled a guy to watch them at play,his attitude since,left them with the impression he was disgruntled at having been dragged away from hugging trees,and not gotton a shag.....ok,before we all go into one,it was only an impression,but,it would be interesting to know what guys expect these blokes,or ladies,would be happy to see a show,with involvement being a bonus,but,we do seem to be noticing more guys expecting sex,and some of the postings from newbies seem to confirm that the definition of "dogging" is tending towards the more jomu will colour the picture with his observations?
I think that being asked to come closer is a good enough offer. I know that if my wife and I did it, although I may want to do more with others she would not and we would expect people to accept that, that is the way sometimes.
you like a bit of domination then bad cop?,good for you!....to add something else,two weeks ago,a young couple at our local venue did a show for three guys.i didn't approach,cause i'm a good little dogger,and it looked like a private the guys walked back to their respective vehicles,i asked"how was it boys",the answer i got,was,"yeah,ok,but they were just showers".it seemed ironic that these guys left the venue dissapointed at only having seen a show!...jomu,where the fuck are you!
ok heres my bit ............prob get a right roasting now but here goes..............surely the dogger should be quite happy to only just watch, after all that is what dogging started out as?
i personally love to see a good show (if you can get near the car) makes a pleasent change. as people know to well the trouble with watching is that when a couple start putting on a show the car gets surrounded with doggers, and i can see why the couple get scared off from doing this, not only because damage to the car,but also the bad manners of a minor few that spoil it for the rest.
ok im stopping now before i get carried away with this :grin:
i personally love to see a good show (if you can get near the car) makes a pleasent change. as people know to well the trouble with watching is that when a couple start putting on a show the car gets surrounded with doggers, and i can see why the couple get scared off from doing this, not only because damage to the car,but also the bad manners of a minor few that spoil it for the rest.
ok im stopping now before i get carried away with this :grin:
Sex God
Its happened to us as well. We were out at junction 10, 2 older guys who apparently camped out there on a regular basis came up to the car as we were looking for extras and we politely told them, just a show.
Well, they didn't stick around but raced up to another local dogging spot only to find it deserted and the chance to revel in their own company.
G and I got it on BIG STYLE, took a load of photos and had a few wanking admirers. I sat on the bonnet of G's car (something he frowns upon still!) and gave a close up viewing for all involved. It was really good fun for all of us. When we were through, we stood around and chatted, exchanged names and laughed for a bit, as the two guys came flying back into the car park, bitching that the other place was empty. Our admirers laughed, told the 2 what they missed and we happily drove off.
Would it be very childish of me to say 'Serves ya right!'?
Silky xxxxxxxxxx
Well, they didn't stick around but raced up to another local dogging spot only to find it deserted and the chance to revel in their own company.
G and I got it on BIG STYLE, took a load of photos and had a few wanking admirers. I sat on the bonnet of G's car (something he frowns upon still!) and gave a close up viewing for all involved. It was really good fun for all of us. When we were through, we stood around and chatted, exchanged names and laughed for a bit, as the two guys came flying back into the car park, bitching that the other place was empty. Our admirers laughed, told the 2 what they missed and we happily drove off.
Would it be very childish of me to say 'Serves ya right!'?
Silky xxxxxxxxxx
one night chatting 2 a guy we have got friendly with at our usual spot we frequent told us he was parked up as usual a few months back when in came this youngish cpl,parked opposite him and displayed the usual lights on off routine,giving him the impression they were out playin,he decides to stroll over at this point the male of the cpl realizes what hes up 2 gets out the car threatning to put his lights out,the guy we know starts to make a quick exit and the cpl decide 2 chase him all over town untill he decides 2 pull up and have it out with the guy..at this point this 1 1/2 of the cpl guy gets out of his car and beats 10 buckets of shit out of the mate of ours....surpose the moral of this story is make sure your 100% certain the cpl is playin and up 4 it before u decide to get a better look..its one situation i would fuckin hate 2 be in...i have been out on my own many a night and seen plenty of cpls but untill im certain there playin u can forget walkin over...
Well, my observations are....dunno...
When I started in this game I was just about 13...ish...I stumbled over a cpl shagging by accident, and got invited to watch...at the time I hadn't a clue about sex, the year being 1963....and sex wasn't exactly mainstream news...since then I've been stumbling over people having sex on a regular basis. Most tell me to piss off, although one guy went for me with a knife...
Most doggers are watchers, as in they don't want to shag, although a grope is ok...the trouble with that is that it is easy to "go the whole way"....and once they do that watching, or a grope, is not enough.....so it's either a shag or boredom.
The new breed of dogger was enticed into the "game" by the newspaper definition of dogging..."seedy sex in car parks"....these guys ONLY want a shag, and watching is "peeping-tom" activity and more than slightly pervy...(music to me ears though)
Stan-the-prat started the new rush of idiots into the game...after all, if stan gets his rocks off on dogging then it must be ok.
This obviously ain't a help....but you can't please everyone, and you're lucky to please anyone in the current dogging plague.
Just carry-on doing what YOU want to do,. and if they don't like it they can piss off. There are plenty that DO just want to watch...by the way, where do you "play" ?
I feel like a trip...although it's the wrong time of year for a dogging expedition....maybe I'll start an "antarctic" dogging expo...
When I started in this game I was just about 13...ish...I stumbled over a cpl shagging by accident, and got invited to watch...at the time I hadn't a clue about sex, the year being 1963....and sex wasn't exactly mainstream news...since then I've been stumbling over people having sex on a regular basis. Most tell me to piss off, although one guy went for me with a knife...
Most doggers are watchers, as in they don't want to shag, although a grope is ok...the trouble with that is that it is easy to "go the whole way"....and once they do that watching, or a grope, is not enough.....so it's either a shag or boredom.
The new breed of dogger was enticed into the "game" by the newspaper definition of dogging..."seedy sex in car parks"....these guys ONLY want a shag, and watching is "peeping-tom" activity and more than slightly pervy...(music to me ears though)
Stan-the-prat started the new rush of idiots into the game...after all, if stan gets his rocks off on dogging then it must be ok.
This obviously ain't a help....but you can't please everyone, and you're lucky to please anyone in the current dogging plague.
Just carry-on doing what YOU want to do,. and if they don't like it they can piss off. There are plenty that DO just want to watch...by the way, where do you "play" ?
I feel like a trip...although it's the wrong time of year for a dogging expedition....maybe I'll start an "antarctic" dogging expo...
Just thought i'd add to this....
We are a couple and very new to all this...my partner is only up for a couple meet or as we just recently tried a show....but we did not give any invite to this 1 car...we waited and waited till it felt right and 1 car stayed the whole time..so we decided to give a show,so he could watch from his car as it was only 2 car spaces away and the moon was well shining...next thing we know hes gotten out and started to walk over..cause we are new and we weren't ready for the man at window wanking kind of thing we both got scared and left....only to b followed for awhile
...but if we do it again i will make it clear we only want to b watched and no involvement from the dogger...and yes there will b a next time...no single males reading this pm me please cause we r not interested....its spur of the moment for us and we would happily put on a show 
Just thought i'd add this....but yes there is all to many men that think when u park up as a couple there entitled to come over and get invited into sex....its just not like that for us...
We are a couple and very new to all this...my partner is only up for a couple meet or as we just recently tried a show....but we did not give any invite to this 1 car...we waited and waited till it felt right and 1 car stayed the whole time..so we decided to give a show,so he could watch from his car as it was only 2 car spaces away and the moon was well shining...next thing we know hes gotten out and started to walk over..cause we are new and we weren't ready for the man at window wanking kind of thing we both got scared and left....only to b followed for awhile
...but if we do it again i will make it clear we only want to b watched and no involvement from the dogger...and yes there will b a next time...no single males reading this pm me please cause we r not interested....its spur of the moment for us and we would happily put on a show Just thought i'd add this....but yes there is all to many men that think when u park up as a couple there entitled to come over and get invited into sex....its just not like that for us...
jomu,thanks for your views,as a couple,our perspective is somewhat different to that of single guys,we always respect,and usually agree with your opinions....the point you made about,having gone all the way,less is mundane,this is so true,and probably applies to both sexes to a our venue,details of which i'll pm you later,there does seem to be a higher than national average of full on,even gangbang sex,quite often without i refrain from any opinion on this,it does seem to set a precedent,regarding high expectations from guys,with the inevitable dissapointment when a couple "only"2 wish to answer would appear to be,if you want a shag,go to a hard site,show in a soft one?
I think the idea that action for single males at locations has been played up a lot by thoes premium rate text lines that advertise locations.
You know the ones horny women available tonite ect ect ect
These then invite maybe the wrong type of single male along who is under the impression that its an easy road to a shag.
Im a single male and new to site after a couple recommended it to me after problems at locations in our respective areas and these have been ruined by boy racers ect arriving and expecting the world when this should never be the case.(Please be gentle with me, yes im new, yes im a single male but I have known the rules and always stuck to them when at locations and always will)
Think some believe after a text message there on a promise. These companies arnet after promoting properly there after peoples hard cash and dont care what the consiquences are for the true community.
Question is, how to get across that in 99% of cases this is NOT the case
Sorry to go on, but more and more latley a potential good nite has been ruined by single men arriving and expecting
:( :(
You know the ones horny women available tonite ect ect ect
These then invite maybe the wrong type of single male along who is under the impression that its an easy road to a shag.
Im a single male and new to site after a couple recommended it to me after problems at locations in our respective areas and these have been ruined by boy racers ect arriving and expecting the world when this should never be the case.(Please be gentle with me, yes im new, yes im a single male but I have known the rules and always stuck to them when at locations and always will)
Think some believe after a text message there on a promise. These companies arnet after promoting properly there after peoples hard cash and dont care what the consiquences are for the true community.
Question is, how to get across that in 99% of cases this is NOT the case
Sorry to go on, but more and more latley a potential good nite has been ruined by single men arriving and expecting
:( :( bedsman,you sound as though you are bracing yourself for a verbal onslaught!!..its not obligatory to shoot newbies down in flames,your post sounded sensible enough,so i think the guys will let you pass unmolested on this occasion!!..i'm sure you are right,the recent media hype has fueled interest with its portayal of dogging as a free for all shag fest.....recently we were out,my wife had spent an hour in the bathroom,(what the fuck do girls do in there)?,you know,done her hair,make-up,nice undies,smelt like comes a knock on the car window,i swear i thought it was a tramp,thinking we were a soup kitchen,"do you want fucking my dear",he asked.i mean,he stank of fags and booze,he had what looked like pizza down his shirt,a beard like catweasel and the dress sense of can a girl turn that down i thought?,but she resisted his charms anyway!
Not so much of a verbal onslaught dirtydoggers but after so much hype I know and apperciate why single men have in most cases been all put into one catagory.
All I know is up until about a month ago there was fun a plenty if you were genuine, now feel although as ive been masked by a community of people who will never understand how to behave or the rules even if you gave them a handbook.
Others are spoiling the fun for us few and far between genuines still out there. When im out even if not invited to join its annoying for me to see genuine couples being harased when they just wana have fun and be left alone. It spoils it for all including the location don't you think
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All I know is up until about a month ago there was fun a plenty if you were genuine, now feel although as ive been masked by a community of people who will never understand how to behave or the rules even if you gave them a handbook.
Others are spoiling the fun for us few and far between genuines still out there. When im out even if not invited to join its annoying for me to see genuine couples being harased when they just wana have fun and be left alone. It spoils it for all including the location don't you think
: Sex God
Gotta Say well done to the Dirty Duo for once again starting and subtly controlling a useful and sensibly discussed thread about dogging ( moderators take note in case a dogging board moderator couple is ever needed lol) .
Almost every post here is right in its own way . As usual the most genuinely interested and reasonable parties ( Jomu and Ddoggers included ) are apt to put their views in general terms , and dont try to impose anything on anyone .
At the risk of repeating ourselves we have to say that dogging is merely another aspect of sexual behaviour to add to the infinite possibilities that sex life entails . As such you cant really define what is right and wrong over and above the basic standards of human interaction in terms of respect and friendliness .
We certainly dont go any where near as far as many dogging couples , but are far less shy than many others . Dogging like anything is situational and we suspect that sometimes a fantastic show with no physical interaction could be far better than a crap attitude and a quick fuck ..equally for some- banging the whole carpark may be the right thing to do on that evening. We dont judge , and we can all get what we want from the game as long as we dont try and impose our views on others .
Showing couples dont have the right to criticise doggers for desiring a shag , after all if they didnt find you attractive they wouldnt want to look at you at all , but equally doggers dont have the right to expect interaction .
Comes down to the old thing as usual , if it isnt fun for everyone concerned it isnt fun at all . As Jomu suggested ( and i can hear him yawning from reading us posting the same old answer again) the 'rules' of engagement and what to expect have been shaped lately in the main by press speculation and rumour . In fact the reality has changed very little and those who have continually been involved have not changed the way they behave at all .
All of human life is here in the carpark , and the assholes are right there with them , they were there before Stan , and theyll be there when hes forgotten . The rules are HAVE FUN !!
(still waiting to see the Dirty Dogger show :-) )
Peace G
Almost every post here is right in its own way . As usual the most genuinely interested and reasonable parties ( Jomu and Ddoggers included ) are apt to put their views in general terms , and dont try to impose anything on anyone .
At the risk of repeating ourselves we have to say that dogging is merely another aspect of sexual behaviour to add to the infinite possibilities that sex life entails . As such you cant really define what is right and wrong over and above the basic standards of human interaction in terms of respect and friendliness .
We certainly dont go any where near as far as many dogging couples , but are far less shy than many others . Dogging like anything is situational and we suspect that sometimes a fantastic show with no physical interaction could be far better than a crap attitude and a quick fuck ..equally for some- banging the whole carpark may be the right thing to do on that evening. We dont judge , and we can all get what we want from the game as long as we dont try and impose our views on others .
Showing couples dont have the right to criticise doggers for desiring a shag , after all if they didnt find you attractive they wouldnt want to look at you at all , but equally doggers dont have the right to expect interaction .
Comes down to the old thing as usual , if it isnt fun for everyone concerned it isnt fun at all . As Jomu suggested ( and i can hear him yawning from reading us posting the same old answer again) the 'rules' of engagement and what to expect have been shaped lately in the main by press speculation and rumour . In fact the reality has changed very little and those who have continually been involved have not changed the way they behave at all .
All of human life is here in the carpark , and the assholes are right there with them , they were there before Stan , and theyll be there when hes forgotten . The rules are HAVE FUN !!
(still waiting to see the Dirty Dogger show :-) )
Peace G
Sex God
Incidentally I resent the remark about the Pizza ! That was tagliatelli
ahhh,silk n g,thank you so much,any approval of our postings is appeciated,coming from you guys is especially meaningful......from a personal point of view,my first voyeuristic encounter was,like jomu's,around the age of ,and a group of friends were running riot in a ruined gothic victorian i was clambering noisely up the wooden staircase,a figure appeared at the top,finger across his lips,as if to say "ssshhh".he led me to a window,where three floors below,on the grass,a young couple of about 16 were making were both butt naked,her fingers were scratching his all stood transfixed,not daring to speak,lest it ended.i'm sure this image impessed itself into my subconcious,for when i watch a show,those childhood feelings surge back,for me its the most erotic element of dogging,and,as a couple,if we can excite those feeling in others,it becomes a very arousing experience.........as silk n g said,everyone is unique,shaped by their own past,and they will all be out in a carpark near you tonight!
I have very limited dogging experience so far but for me, it's definintely about watching and I'd assumed that was the case for most until I joined SH and learned more 
If a couple wanted participation or for me to come closer, I'd need a really clear signal for that to avoid making a mistake. The fact that couples like to be watched surely doesn't mean they also want sex from every person that happens to be in the same car park....why anyone would assume that is puzzling. I agree with Big G's comment about doggers not being in the wrong for desiring a shag, but the difference between desire and invitation is consent.
The media hype is certainly a hindrance but doesn't everyone know by now that the newspapers could sensationalise your grandmothers trip to the library if it earned them cash? how can people rely on that kind of information alone!
I do have a question for the couples here, from a different angle on the same subject. What would your reaction be to someone you invited to participate who replied that their only interest was watching? I only ask as watching is my preference (for now ) and I wonder what the best way to handle that would be?
Serendipity
If a couple wanted participation or for me to come closer, I'd need a really clear signal for that to avoid making a mistake. The fact that couples like to be watched surely doesn't mean they also want sex from every person that happens to be in the same car park....why anyone would assume that is puzzling. I agree with Big G's comment about doggers not being in the wrong for desiring a shag, but the difference between desire and invitation is consent.
The media hype is certainly a hindrance but doesn't everyone know by now that the newspapers could sensationalise your grandmothers trip to the library if it earned them cash? how can people rely on that kind of information alone!
I do have a question for the couples here, from a different angle on the same subject. What would your reaction be to someone you invited to participate who replied that their only interest was watching? I only ask as watching is my preference (for now
) and I wonder what the best way to handle that would be?Serendipity
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I have very limited dogging experience so far but for me, it's definintely about watching and I'd assumed that was the case for most until I joined SH and learned more
Me too! I had heard about it over a long period of time and only recently decided I'd like to try it. Never crossed my mind that anyone would get invited to join in, thought it was a watching game only. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to be asked, but I would always respect the couple's decision either way.
I must admit, I'm getting a little put off by all the comments I keep reading here, about dozens of men swarming round a car with their dicks in hand! I was hoping for a more personal viewing, but I will have to see what my local sites are like, when I can find them!
have been watched by females,and both of us find it a our experience,couples that involve others in the action,aren't particularly welcoming of voyeurs,they dont see the point,the physical contact is the pleasure they saying that,we have yet to meet a "show" couple that wouldn't welcome a female dont you team up with jomu,silky n big g and a few others off the forum,we can all get together in our wonderful woodland location and dogg in an atmosphere off dont let the big guy anywhere near a pizza hut on the way......by the way,your avatar is very classy,give them little,keep them hungry!
Sex God
Hi Serendipity, 
Great to see that there are now some female doggers out there. Know what you mean though about reading the ‘signs’ and what would you do if you were asked to join in! Could be a bit difficult! We are a ‘showing’ couple who went out last night and started the fun in the front of the car, got out walked round the car and got into the back. We opened the windows so everyone around could see/hear, and out of the six cars parked nearby, not one person came over!!!! Afterwards I got out for a smoke and a very polite bloke who was there on a gorgeous motorbike, (I have naughty thoughts about men on motorbikes - and if the bloke is reading this, then drop me a pm) came over for a chat. It seems that no-one had understood our 'signals' and therefore no-one came over to watch! Just shows that the Boy racers are now mainly at home in front of the fire and the genuine, doggers are out and about! Just gotta make sure we are a little more ‘direct’ with our signals.
As DirtyDoggers say, a single female to watch would be fantastic and I cant think of anyone who would turn you away, or be offended if you said you only wanted to watch rather than join in! If they are offended, then it is their loss, not yours!
Good luck and enjoy!
xxx
Great to see that there are now some female doggers out there. Know what you mean though about reading the ‘signs’ and what would you do if you were asked to join in! Could be a bit difficult! We are a ‘showing’ couple who went out last night and started the fun in the front of the car, got out walked round the car and got into the back. We opened the windows so everyone around could see/hear, and out of the six cars parked nearby, not one person came over!!!! Afterwards I got out for a smoke and a very polite bloke who was there on a gorgeous motorbike, (I have naughty thoughts about men on motorbikes - and if the bloke is reading this, then drop me a pm) came over for a chat. It seems that no-one had understood our 'signals' and therefore no-one came over to watch! Just shows that the Boy racers are now mainly at home in front of the fire and the genuine, doggers are out and about! Just gotta make sure we are a little more ‘direct’ with our signals.
As DirtyDoggers say, a single female to watch would be fantastic and I cant think of anyone who would turn you away, or be offended if you said you only wanted to watch rather than join in! If they are offended, then it is their loss, not yours!
Good luck and enjoy!
xxx
Mmmm Pizza.....I'd be hot on his heels into there after woodland fun! All that fresh air builds an appetite!
Dirtydoggers, this is interesting.... if you want a shag,go to a hard site,show in a soft one.....are there definite differences between sites then? I hadn't realised that might be the case, is there any way at all to tell or is it just one of those things that you have to discover over time?
Keef - I think getting a more personal viewing might rely on either a pre-arranged meet with a couple or getting lucky in a less well known venue. A swarm of guys, tooled up so to speak, sounds pretty intimidating!
Dirtydoggers, this is interesting.... if you want a shag,go to a hard site,show in a soft one.....are there definite differences between sites then? I hadn't realised that might be the case, is there any way at all to tell or is it just one of those things that you have to discover over time?
Keef - I think getting a more personal viewing might rely on either a pre-arranged meet with a couple or getting lucky in a less well known venue. A swarm of guys, tooled up so to speak, sounds pretty intimidating!
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As DirtyDoggers say, a single female to watch would be fantastic and I cant think of anyone who would turn you away, or be offended if you said you only wanted to watch rather than join in! If they are offended, then it is their loss, not yours!
That's encouraging to hear NaughtyWiganCouple! It's fantastic that there are couple out there willing to show and hard to believe that people are disappointed when it's not a free for all!
I'll keep my eyes peeled for fully open windows in future
notice im keeping quiet still lol...........have to agree with everyone on this thread.........ok dirtydoggers can you help me how do i get a avitar on here? or shall i ask you next time i see you in the woodlands?
sorry had to ask, i know its not the right thread to ask but what the hell
sorry had to ask, i know its not the right thread to ask but what the hell
The hard sites usually have loads of guys waiting, and driving, and they show no hesitation towards getting "on" a car as soon as it arrives. They are also, inevitably, gay cruising sites.
As for the "players" not liking "watchers" and getting annoyed at them, this is certainly true BUT only because they don't know who is who.
A "watcher" may be a dogger or may be the law...that's why the doggers "motto" is: U know U need 2 show !
Think about it guys, and couples. A guy/gal in a car could be anyone.....but a guy in a car feeling a gals "bits", or with the gal showing more than mum would like, are not likely to be law....similarly, a guy standing and watching and "showing" his appreciation is not likely to be law....but a plank standing gawping and doing nothing is a pain.
As for the "players" not liking "watchers" and getting annoyed at them, this is certainly true BUT only because they don't know who is who.
A "watcher" may be a dogger or may be the law...that's why the doggers "motto" is: U know U need 2 show !
Think about it guys, and couples. A guy/gal in a car could be anyone.....but a guy in a car feeling a gals "bits", or with the gal showing more than mum would like, are not likely to be law....similarly, a guy standing and watching and "showing" his appreciation is not likely to be law....but a plank standing gawping and doing nothing is a pain.
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Shocked and intrigued !! Is Serendipity a single female dogger ?? We have heard legend of such beings but never really believed either they or Dragons / Unicorns etc existed .
As for different sites , no in our experience there isnt such a thing . It works like this - if there has been no action at a site for a long time then pulling in and smoking a cigarette in a provocative way is looked at as a good show , and welcomed by all doggers concerned . If however there has been a young lady who is prepared to suck/fuck/wank or generally satisfy all the doggers on site in recent weeks then the doggerst the site will often walk away even from a gorgeous young lady with legs akimbo and a vibrator inserted unless she opens the door.
Dogging , like many other aspects of sexual adventure is a matter of degrees , and after an extreme experience the participants are often 'spoiled' for anything less extreme and become desensitised to it .
Thats one of the reasons we dont arrange meetings . A large part of the eroticism is the surprise on the faces and the reactions by complete strangers . If you spend an hour chatting and shooting the breeze the magic has gone and the whole thing would have a different atmosphere .
So I suppose a 'hard site' would be any site that had recently had a girl willing to do anything visiting it ( and they are fewer and farer between than you would think) in the recent weeks.
As for different sites , no in our experience there isnt such a thing . It works like this - if there has been no action at a site for a long time then pulling in and smoking a cigarette in a provocative way is looked at as a good show , and welcomed by all doggers concerned . If however there has been a young lady who is prepared to suck/fuck/wank or generally satisfy all the doggers on site in recent weeks then the doggerst the site will often walk away even from a gorgeous young lady with legs akimbo and a vibrator inserted unless she opens the door.
Dogging , like many other aspects of sexual adventure is a matter of degrees , and after an extreme experience the participants are often 'spoiled' for anything less extreme and become desensitised to it .
Thats one of the reasons we dont arrange meetings . A large part of the eroticism is the surprise on the faces and the reactions by complete strangers . If you spend an hour chatting and shooting the breeze the magic has gone and the whole thing would have a different atmosphere .
So I suppose a 'hard site' would be any site that had recently had a girl willing to do anything visiting it ( and they are fewer and farer between than you would think) in the recent weeks.
Dirtydoggers, this is interesting.... if you want a shag,go to a hard site,show in a soft one.....are there definite differences between sites then? I hadn't realised that might be the case, is there any way at all to tell or is it just one of those things that you have to discover over time?
...that was something i pulled out of the air,i'm not sure that anyone uses those classifications...however,the venue we use on a regular basis,does attract interactive couples,many of the regular guys have become "desensitised" in the manner jomu described earlier,and often feel let-down when a show ends without there are a steady stream of wide-eyed newbies and voyeur only doggers to keep show couples happy.....another venue we use is quite the opposite,and it can be difficult to entice doggers had the experience that naughtywigan encountered,when asked why,even with an obvious torchlight invite,nobody approached,the answer was."nothing has happened here for 47 years,we thought you were looking for your chewing gum".the moral was,the guys at the small venue considered the night to be outstanding,whereas the same show at the harder site may have been percieved less this clarifies a little?
i must be slow,i tapped away,sent that last post,only to see silky and jomu had got in first and stolen my to see no contadictions,except silky is probably more accurate with the "hard venue having seen recent interaction",rather than a site being considered hard,generally....none of you guys out yet then?..
