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Prompted by another thread which I didnt want hijack I would like to discuss this and state my views.
Discussing the same old things over and over again is often used by those who are more interested in seeking attention by negative activity than open and honest debate. The use of this tool spoils the forums for the majority of users and discourages participation.
Just my thoughts and I wondered what the rest of the community thought.
Why don't you just have the balls to come out and mention my name?
People can see right through this, and seeing as you have NO say over what is allowed in these forums your constant digging is there for all to see.
There is nothing wrong in what I can see in bringing up old topics if people want to comment on them.
You have nothing better to do than constantly whinge?
I will let others decide if they want to see old topics or discussions, brought up again.
If there are specific issues between individuals they should be settled in a closed area not in an open post.
I believe all of us who post in a forum are seeking attention of some kind else why are we posting? Lots of other people on this site have views and do not post and knowing them its not because they are not shy, its just because they don't feel the need to.
I hate personally the bickering on here and the attacking I have seen in some threads and I do not believe anyone has the right to do this.
An online etiquette means that arguments can develop without it being personal.
However, arguing means that you have to have material that can substantiate your thinking. To just say "I think" is fine but where does your thinking come from, who else agrees with it and what are the counter arguments. An argument isn't a row which is what I have often seen and I find that boring to read and join in. We all seek truth but its different for all of us so lets agree to disagree and if we listen to a sound argument and it makes sense, be able to change ones mind.
I love the fact that there is a current affairs area and that anyone can start a thread. I for one however post less since I have seen one or two people attacked. I may not agree with peoples views but I will not attack them. I will challenge their veiws or ask for more information but thats okay to do.
So lets cut the personal attacks eh as they are dam boring to read and keep people from posting.
what I hate.....about this side of the forum ...is that with a page it just becomes name calling and petty bitching. We all have differant views....and differant stand points. The world would be a damned boring place if this wasn't the case. lets just rejoice in our differances, respect each others views (as long as within the AUP on here), no matter how much we may dissagree with them.
I think it can be very useful to re-open previously discussed subjects or to start a new thread on an old topic. Things are constantly changing, new members come on with different views/opinions, new evidence comes to light etc. The assertation that old topics are not worth re-opening suggests to me a lazy unimaginative mind-set, but it would be nice to see an end to the pointless bickering and point scoring.
I mention no names because the practice is relatively widespread.
I do think it spolis the forum. In evidence I would cite the relative inactivity of most on the forum. There must be a reason for that and it may be as Corrie states that others see personal attacks and steer clear. There may of course be other reasons. What I do know is that some of my fondest meeting memories are with those who have sparked my interest on the forums. I just wish the forums were busier and the postings more moderate as I think this would make them more fun and help with one of my goals, which is to meet people I like to have sex with which is why I am on SH in the first place.
I am grateful for the thoughs expressed so far.
what are these type of threads called?
they seem to be able to get people talking a great deal about some quite unspecific things which can seem highly personal at times.
so is there a name or classification for such phenomena?
on further thinking, it seems that these threads are a bit like treasure hunting. someone decides to dig deep, than someone else joins in, the digging goes on until everyone seems happy they have found something.
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Why don't you just have the balls to come out and mention my name?
People can see right through this, and seeing as you have NO say over what is allowed in these forums your constant digging is there for all to see.
There is nothing wrong in what I can see in bringing up old topics if people want to comment on them.
You have nothing better to do than constantly whinge?
I will let others decide if they want to see old topics or discussions, brought up again.

Wind your neck in, Kenty. One post in and already you're having a go.
Treat this as a yellow card - you do know what two yellows make, don't you?
Mal
no don't blow the whistle yet. this could be a really good pointless thread.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
can we discuss this again then i had`nt finished with this thread when it got closed
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/306305.html

In this particular case, no.
Mal
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Hasn't this been discussed before? smile

Above
Now that is funny, red wine now sprayed over monitor...
I think it is inevitable that some topics will be covered more than once
Would it not be more simpler and effective to block the offending posters, rather than closing a good thread. Is there not some magic wand in the software to do this?
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Would it not be more simpler and effective to block the offending posters, rather than closing a good thread. Is there not some magic wand in the software to do this?
that's a good idea: Blocking from a thread.
simple, effective, economic... fair.
It'll never fly.
lp
Seems fair to me. what happens in a club? do the bouncers throw everyone out? no just the trouble makers.
Quote by duncanlondon
Seems fair to me. what happens in a club? do the bouncers throw everyone out? no just the trouble makers.

so:
could a thread banning, or 'bounce' have a little emote inserted at the point of ejection to let us know that a person ahs been bounced from that thread?
perhaps a little like old wild west saloon doors... you know the ones: a cowboy comes flying through the doors backwards and falls in the dust just off of the porch with a flee in his ear, and his hat all crumpled?
lp
... even better: His hat follows him through the door a second or two later?
lp
Can we have them land in the horse trough? pleeeeese
Something more like....
he has to drink the contents of the spitoon or get his arse blown off by a Buffalo Rifle
Quote by duncanlondon
Something more like....
he has to drink the contents of the spitoon or get his arse blown off by a Buffalo Rifle

Sounds like a job for Sherriff BIoke. biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
But honestly its the same circumstances in most cases. its either the topic, the entrenched attitude or viewpoint and some well known protaganists, and its only a matter of time before everyone has to suffer. and the mods must know its going to happen.
so a facility to warn people directly and discreetly, then if they don't temper themselves, they just disappear from the thread, leaving others to continue the discussion.
... and a lynchin'?
lp
Quote by __random_orbit__
Would it not be more simpler and effective to block the offending posters, rather than closing a good thread. Is there not some magic wand in the software to do this?

that's a good idea: Blocking from a thread.
simple, effective, economic... fair.
It'll never fly.
lp
The only criteria you could use to block offending posters from a thread would be a breach of AUP, and if a post is sufficient to warrant a bounce out of the thread, then it's also sufficient to warrant a ban from the forum? And at that point a ban is handed out, and the thread continues . . .
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so a facility to warn people directly and discreetly, then if they don't temper themselves, they just disappear from the thread, leaving others to continue the discussion.

I think that already happens. I'm not sure what you're asking for? confused
Are you both saying that instead of a friendly moderator locking a thread so as to sometimes save some people from themselves, so as to avoid yer actual ban, that yer friendly moderator should issue a ban instead so as to avoid a lock and preserve a thread? I'm not sure which way you're both trying to jump? confused Locks, or bans?
N x x x ;)
12 hour cooling off period would be better that way peeps would have time to reconsider what they write wink
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so a facility to warn people directly and discreetly, then if they don't temper themselves, they just disappear from the thread, leaving others to continue the discussion.

I think that already happens. I'm not sure what you're asking for?
no, certainly not all the time.
and nither are 'warnings' always apparent.
But discussing the issue can have one on dangerous territory in itself.
However, there is a place that possibly could be a haven for open discussion.
not locking, not banning... simply denying access to a poster in a thread that would otherwise continue constructively/creatively without there presence.
Surely things needn't go as far as a banning offence?
harsh.
lp
Quote by __random_orbit__
no, certainly not all the time.
and nither are 'warnings' always apparent.
But discussing the issue can have one on dangerous territory in itself.

Still here though? ;)
However, there is a place that possibly could be a haven for open discussion

So you've created a group where you're in charge, and can decide who has a say, and who doesn't have a say, in that you control the membership of that group. I have no idea how the AUP applies to private groups cos I don't use the facility, but that's you striking out for freedom of speech is it? confused Your group exists by Admin's leave in any event.
N x x x ;)
Quote by neilinleeds
no, certainly not all the time.
and nither are 'warnings' always apparent.
But discussing the issue can have one on dangerous territory in itself.
However, there is a place that possibly could be a haven for open discussion

So you've created a group where you're in charge, and can decide who has a say, and who doesn't have a say, in that you control the membership of that group. I have no idea how the AUP applies to private groups cos I don't use the facility, but that's you striking out for freedom of speech is it? confused Your group exists by Admin's leave in any event.
N x x x ;)
God Neil I love your thing at the bottom of your posts!!!!!!!!!!!!! and yes the word thing is about right lol
Quote by neilinleeds
no, certainly not all the time.
and nither are 'warnings' always apparent.
But discussing the issue can have one on dangerous territory in itself.
However, there is a place that possibly could be a haven for open discussion

So you've created a group where you're in charge, and can decide who has a say, and who doesn't have a say, in that you control the membership of that group. I have no idea how the AUP applies to private groups cos I don't use the facility, but that's you striking out for freedom of speech is it? confused Your group exists by Admin's leave in any event.
N x x x ;)of course.
set up to enable discussion away from the fora where it has been stated previously that it isn't allowed.
so, an area away from the fora 'private' and therefore should hopefully not be contentious will allow an opportunity to talk of alternatives, discuss 'issues' and raise concerns with an audience whom might openly and constructively join in.
a voice, as it were.. which is often denied outside of Private messaging.
yes, it does exist by admins leave... and I'm hoping that they can/might see the benefit of allowing discussion in this format.
It might even throw up some fairly half-baked ideas for consideration, you never know.
and thanks for joining.
(even though it was such a short stay)
lp