When people say true Brit!
Are there many about?
What is a true Brit?
I am a bit of a mixed breed having English, Italian, Irish, and French in me, and my children have Greek added to that mixture.
Are any of us really 100% true British?
How many generations back do we need to go to be classed as a true Brit?
As I am proud of my ancestor roots and would not like to deny I have a mix in me
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Are you 100% British?
I have Italian, and Germanic blood in me, and who knows what else. Some say I have a Roman nose, I reject that. They were a nasty lot.
I choose to be British, Sometimes English, sometimes a Yorkshire man, Sometimes a Moonraker. I have even called myself Saxon. Anglo Saxon have a bad reputation.
I think a true Brit is someone who stands for British standards. In good times that is right over evil, looking after the little man, taking it on the chin and all that. In bad times when there are nithlings like Blair in charge I am more English, anything but in the same camp.
...but then that nithling was never a True Brit.
Travis.
I choose to be British, Sometimes English, sometimes a Yorkshire man, Sometimes a Moonraker. I have even called myself Saxon. Anglo Saxon have a bad reputation.
I think a true Brit is someone who stands for British standards. In good times that is right over evil, looking after the little man, taking it on the chin and all that. In bad times when there are nithlings like Blair in charge I am more English, anything but in the same camp.
...but then that nithling was never a True Brit.
Travis.
Quote by flower411
I think the expression 'true brit' means the character and attitude of the people, and usually in certain circumstances.
Getting into people's geneology could cause a racial debate again.
Nothing wrong with a racial debate/discussion. It`s just the Racist one`s that we can do without.
let's hope it stays on track then.
My backgrounds are White Scots/American pioneers and possibly some native American Indian. With my grandparents returning to Scotland 100 years ago.
Quote by flower411
I think the expression 'true brit' means the character and attitude of the people, and usually in certain circumstances.
Getting into people's geneology could cause a racial debate again.
Nothing wrong with a racial debate/discussion. It`s just the Racist one`s that we can do without.
Agreed :wink:
My Great Great Grand parents on both sides were immigrants to this 1900's
Russian/German..... depending who had won the land at the time.
and Dutch (Via portugal on the other).
All Males (apart from me and my dad)served in the army medical corps,fire service orRoyal/Merchant Navy since ... and have always regarded themselves as British.
They all kept their religious identity too and managed to assimilate into a nation that welcomed them , but didnt persecute them.
Our dark skin profile began to fade with my Great Grand parents and obviously the accents started to disappear... maybe that helped too!!
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I'm Scottish! :thumbup:
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I'm not British, I'm English.
uhm..let's see...
from father's side, italian and catholics as far as family knowledge goes..which is only back to the 19th century..but I have no reason to think the previous generations ever moved about..which at some point in history must have made them french too, given that italy only has a history as a nation, a few centuries old.
dutch and jewish from mother's side, but her father, even though he spent his entire life in benelux, was born in bielsko biala...which was and still is in poland at the time..but HIS mother, who was born in the same place, was born citizen of the austro-hungarian empire.
so, basically, if we go back only 2 generations, half italian, a quarter dutch and a quarter polish
I consider myself half dutch and half italian, by education and mentality, which seems to me more important than the "bloodline" (hence my nickname, btw)
as these are totally different heritages and I've been around a bit, I like to think of myself as a citizen of the world rather than identify myself as a "true" something.
the percentage of english blood in my veins is a big fat nought
from father's side, italian and catholics as far as family knowledge goes..which is only back to the 19th century..but I have no reason to think the previous generations ever moved about..which at some point in history must have made them french too, given that italy only has a history as a nation, a few centuries old.
dutch and jewish from mother's side, but her father, even though he spent his entire life in benelux, was born in bielsko biala...which was and still is in poland at the time..but HIS mother, who was born in the same place, was born citizen of the austro-hungarian empire.
so, basically, if we go back only 2 generations, half italian, a quarter dutch and a quarter polish
I consider myself half dutch and half italian, by education and mentality, which seems to me more important than the "bloodline" (hence my nickname, btw)
as these are totally different heritages and I've been around a bit, I like to think of myself as a citizen of the world rather than identify myself as a "true" something.
the percentage of english blood in my veins is a big fat nought
in this 'modern' world, where for several generations, and for quite some time historicaly, the movement of people from nation to nation, and indeed continent to continent, it could be thought that are few 'true-bloods' left anywhere.
So might being a 'true-(insert nationality)' be more about your attitude to your country of birth/residence than your genealogical qualification?
londoncultthing
So might being a 'true-(insert nationality)' be more about your attitude to your country of birth/residence than your genealogical qualification?
londoncultthing
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in this 'modern' world, where for several generations, and for quite some time historicaly, the movement of people from nation to nation, and indeed continent to continent, it could be thought that are few 'true-bloods' left anywhere.
LP, I think the idea of being somehow pure blood was always a myth. There's never been any such thing. I'm English by birth, with a Scottish mother who's own mother's surname goes back to 9th century viking settlers in the Shetland Isles, who were later incorporated into the Buchanan clan, which means I'm entiltled to wear the tartan AFAIK.
On my maternal grandad's side we've got an Irish emigrant, who left for America to work as yer genuine Irish drover, coming back across the water and settling in Scotland in the latter part of the 19th century. On my dad's side, we've no family history really ((( we don't speak to them, they're an 'orrible lot. 
))) but there's a theory the surname itself is Old French in origin. So, seems I'm a bit of a mongrel really, just like pretty much everyone else who's ever lived in Britain. ;)What is a true Brit?
Dunno Minxy. Apparently it's got something to do with a nostalgia for Spitfires, spinsters cycling to church on misty Sunday mornings, warm beer, a good stiff upper lip, and a fondness for cricketing metaphors, things like that.
How many generations back do we need to go to be classed as a true Brit?
Only one Minxy. If you're born here, you're truly British. It's as easy as that. ;)
Neil x x x ;)
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50% English
20% me
10% alien
10% sex slave
10% fairly odd being
20% me
10% alien
10% sex slave
10% fairly odd being
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50% English
20% me
10% alien
10% sex slave
10% fairly odd being
But good at maths!
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I struggle with the whole British thing. If you go simply with where you are born then I suppose I am. However once you start going back and investigating birthplaces of our genetic forebearers then I think the waters become somewhat muddied.
Eddie Izzard did a show about this very topic called "Mongrel Nation" which about sums us up nicely. We are a summary of the parts of many cultures, Roman, French, Germanic, Jewish, Indian etc. Even the things we think of truly British. The Pound (Roman), Tower of London (French), Sunday Lunch (Roman), St George (Turkish), Church of England is based on Lutherian (German) and Calvinist (French) doctrine, are quite often rooted somewhere abroad.
It is also why this baffling notion of the need for divisions and segregation within our society confuses my addled brain somewhat.
Eddie Izzard did a show about this very topic called "Mongrel Nation" which about sums us up nicely. We are a summary of the parts of many cultures, Roman, French, Germanic, Jewish, Indian etc. Even the things we think of truly British. The Pound (Roman), Tower of London (French), Sunday Lunch (Roman), St George (Turkish), Church of England is based on Lutherian (German) and Calvinist (French) doctrine, are quite often rooted somewhere abroad.
It is also why this baffling notion of the need for divisions and segregation within our society confuses my addled brain somewhat.
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in this 'modern' world, where for several generations, and for quite some time historicaly, the movement of people from nation to nation, and indeed continent to continent, it could be thought that are few 'true-bloods' left anywhere.
LP, I think the idea of being somehow pure blood was always a myth. There's never been any such thing. I'm English by birth, with a Scottish mother who's own mother's surname goes back to 9th century viking settlers in the Shetland Isles, who were later incorporated into the Buchanan clan, which means I'm entiltled to wear the tartan AFAIK.
On my maternal grandad's side we've got an Irish emigrant, who left for America to work as yer genuine Irish drover, coming back across the water and settling in Scotland in the latter part of the 19th century. On my dad's side, we've no family history really ((( we don't speak to them, they're an 'orrible lot. ))) but there's a theory the surname itself is Old French in origin. So, seems I'm a bit of a mongrel really, just like pretty much everyone else who's ever lived in Britain. ;)What is a true Brit?
Dunno Minxy. Apparently it's got something to do with a nostalgia for Spitfires, spinsters cycling to church on misty Sunday mornings, warm beer, a good stiff upper lip, and a fondness for cricketing metaphors, things like that.
How many generations back do we need to go to be classed as a true Brit?
Only one Minxy. If you're born here, you're truly British. It's as easy as that. ;)
Neil x x x ;)
I can also complete a cricket score book does that me a true Brit? :lol:
apparently cricket is the main divide between continental europeans and the uk..(because you folks tend to make the distinction and talk about "you europeans" forgetting that you're part of it on several levels )
I do know a fair bit about baseball, but I haven't a clue about cricket..
away before the slating starts for comparing the two.
)I do know a fair bit about baseball, but I haven't a clue about cricket..
away before the slating starts for comparing the two. 
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I must admit I can understand the basic premise of baseball and cricket, what gets me is the sudden divergence into weird statistics that obviously mean something to somebody...
"Next up is Jarrod P. Mertle who has a average with a nimble Pimble Wotsit on a Doo Dah. If he can average just on his scroties this week, he can post a seasons best middlums and follow that with a winkle splat, he will be the first wide left pitching receiver catcher to do that since Barney Schmamzie in 1937..."
Baseball seems to only be popular in the US, Cuba and Japan for some reason. Quite how those three came together to nurture the sport is beyond me.
"Next up is Jarrod P. Mertle who has a average with a nimble Pimble Wotsit on a Doo Dah. If he can average just on his scroties this week, he can post a seasons best middlums and follow that with a winkle splat, he will be the first wide left pitching receiver catcher to do that since Barney Schmamzie in 1937..."
Baseball seems to only be popular in the US, Cuba and Japan for some reason. Quite how those three came together to nurture the sport is beyond me.
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I must admit I can understand the basic premise of baseball and cricket, what gets me is the sudden divergence into weird statistics that obviously mean something to somebody...
"Next up is Jarrod P. Mertle who has a average with a nimble Pimble Wotsit on a Doo Dah. If he can average just on his scroties this week, he can post a seasons best middlums and follow that with a winkle splat, he will be the first wide left pitching receiver catcher to do that since Barney Schmamzie in 1937..."
Baseball seems to only be popular in the US, Cuba and Japan for some reason. Quite how those three came together to nurture the sport is beyond me.
I much prefer the cricket terminology,
I am sure judging by a few terms I have heard of, the inventors of Cricket could have been swingers
Good length
Middle wicket
Wide leg
Full toss
Ball Tampering
Swing
Wide leg
Chest-on
Handled the ball
Reverse Swing
Occupy the crease
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Quote by Theladyisaminx
I must admit I can understand the basic premise of baseball and cricket, what gets me is the sudden divergence into weird statistics that obviously mean something to somebody...
"Next up is Jarrod P. Mertle who has a average with a nimble Pimble Wotsit on a Doo Dah. If he can average just on his scroties this week, he can post a seasons best middlums and follow that with a winkle splat, he will be the first wide left pitching receiver catcher to do that since Barney Schmamzie in 1937..."
Baseball seems to only be popular in the US, Cuba and Japan for some reason. Quite how those three came together to nurture the sport is beyond me.
I much prefer the cricket terminology,
I am sure judging by a few terms I have heard of, the inventors of Cricket could have been swingers
Good length
Middle wicket
Wide leg
Full toss
Ball Tampering
Swing
Wide leg
Chest-on
Handled the ball
Reverse Swing
Occupy the crease
lol Minxy!
Yes, I can certainly be accused of ball tampering which on occasion has led to a full toss, which as we know is an indication of being well short of a good length.
Never enough to bowl a maiden over... ;-)
