I for one hate this despicable " sport ".
It may be sport in Spain but not in my book.
By the time the Matador enters the arena, the bull is half dead. Hardly a macho thing for the Matador. Maybe it would be fairer if the bull was fully fit to then face his killer?
I am glad that a part of Spain is going to outlaw this barbaric spectacle.
Lets hope the rest of Spain follow suit.
Is it sport or just part of Spain's history?
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Bullfighting
Well, all very pc etc.
But what kind of world are we going to have without something to disagree about? When supposedly all things and everyone has been taken into consideration.
How effing boring it will be then. Which is probably why bullfighting was invented.
But I don't have an issue for it or against it. I did farming for a while and you see worse things than bullfighting. Like when the vets fuck things up. Or people neglect the animals. Or the animals just go wild or lose it and end up hurting themselves.
Also remember that 'in the wild' some animals fight to the death, as do humans. So I can see where the idea of it being a sport or an art comes in.
But what kind of world are we going to have without something to disagree about? When supposedly all things and everyone has been taken into consideration.
How effing boring it will be then. Which is probably why bullfighting was invented.
But I don't have an issue for it or against it. I did farming for a while and you see worse things than bullfighting. Like when the vets fuck things up. Or people neglect the animals. Or the animals just go wild or lose it and end up hurting themselves.
Also remember that 'in the wild' some animals fight to the death, as do humans. So I can see where the idea of it being a sport or an art comes in.
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Also remember that 'in the wild' some animals fight to the death, as do humans.
Some of them are on pay and view on Sky. They started a new channel two weeks ago and after each fight they change the animal. They start the fight in a Spanish sized bull ring and they then run at each other and fight to the death. The pay for view is per day and costs per day. The first two animals are South American Sloths.
After two weeks they haven't reached the middle of the ring yet
Dave_Notts
Quote by duncanlondon
Well, all very pc etc.
But what kind of world are we going to have without something to disagree about? When supposedly all things and everyone has been taken into consideration.
How effing boring it will be then. Which is probably why bullfighting was invented.
But I don't have an issue for it or against it. I did farming for a while and you see worse things than bullfighting. Like when the vets fuck things up. Or people neglect the animals. Or the animals just go wild or lose it and end up hurting themselves.
Also remember that 'in the wild' some animals fight to the death, as do humans. So I can see where the idea of it being a sport or an art comes in.
So let's bring back bear baiting, cock fighting, dog fighting and fox hunting then?
Sex God
Quote by Max777
Well, all very pc etc.
But what kind of world are we going to have without something to disagree about? When supposedly all things and everyone has been taken into consideration.
How effing boring it will be then. Which is probably why bullfighting was invented.
But I don't have an issue for it or against it. I did farming for a while and you see worse things than bullfighting. Like when the vets fuck things up. Or people neglect the animals. Or the animals just go wild or lose it and end up hurting themselves.
Also remember that 'in the wild' some animals fight to the death, as do humans. So I can see where the idea of it being a sport or an art comes in.
So let's bring back bear baiting, cock fighting, dog fighting and fox hunting then?
Yes please!
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Well, all very pc etc.
But what kind of world are we going to have without something to disagree about? When supposedly all things and everyone has been taken into consideration.
How effing boring it will be then. Which is probably why bullfighting was invented.
But I don't have an issue for it or against it. I did farming for a while and you see worse things than bullfighting. Like when the vets fuck things up. Or people neglect the animals. Or the animals just go wild or lose it and end up hurting themselves.
Also remember that 'in the wild' some animals fight to the death, as do humans. So I can see where the idea of it being a sport or an art comes in.
So let's bring back bear baiting, cock fighting, dog fighting and fox hunting then?
Yes please!
:shock:
Sex God
Animals doing it to each other doesn't justify us doing to them.
The point about bull fighting is that it isn't fighting. It's baiting. Fighting would be one bull (fit and healthy) and one bloke - let's give him a 4 foot spear and a dagger - that should even out the horns thing.
Now THAT would make a real fight of it.
Oh, and we'd need an arena with nowhere to hide and 20 foot high walls. Let's see how macho the chap in embroidered silk pedal-pushers, dancing slippers and the silly hat is then.
:giggle:
The point about bull fighting is that it isn't fighting. It's baiting. Fighting would be one bull (fit and healthy) and one bloke - let's give him a 4 foot spear and a dagger - that should even out the horns thing.
Now THAT would make a real fight of it.
Oh, and we'd need an arena with nowhere to hide and 20 foot high walls. Let's see how macho the chap in embroidered silk pedal-pushers, dancing slippers and the silly hat is then.
:giggle:
well some of these animal rights groups are just as extreme as terrorists. they call for animal rights, but its just a disguise for their own form of blood sports. which is hunting humans, who they'd prefer to kill, but some how stop short of doing.
so the 'sport' is still there with the motivation of these extreme types. where else can you find that kind of blood lust? not even in the bull fighting ring.
so its all very well thinking someone is doing something 'good', but that may not be the case. their methods and motivation may be quite the opposite.
so the 'sport' is still there with the motivation of these extreme types. where else can you find that kind of blood lust? not even in the bull fighting ring.
so its all very well thinking someone is doing something 'good', but that may not be the case. their methods and motivation may be quite the opposite.
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As i have mentioned before i am very conflicted about bull fighting.i have always been very pro animal rights,but......
Firstly i dont like the idea of telling other cultures what to must be serious reasons to do so,such as in the harm caused by FGC.
Secondly i read Hemmingway at an impressionable age,He is close to my ideal Dom,and in Death in the Afternoon makes the whole thing so damn sexy.*
This law was passed by the local government though and that is what matters i the people of an area decide that they object then that is a decision i can only applaud.
* any simularities to my perfect Dom in build ,politics or writing ability purely coincidental
Fact is it's the Catalunyan government who have decided to change the law. Good on them. In fact, let's pay homage to Catalonia....
Oh, hang on, someone's nicked that phrase, and he had a very clear view on what you could and couldn't tell people abroad to do. And he went there to do it....
Orgasminator
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Fact is it's the Catalunyan government who have decided to change the law. Good on them. In fact, let's pay homage to Catalonia....
Lets just hope then that they're the first and other follow suit.
Animal cruelty is abhorrent, culture or no.
Sex God
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Fact is it's the Catalunyan government who have decided to change the law. Good on them. In fact, let's pay homage to Catalonia....
Lets just hope then that they're the first and other follow suit.
Animal cruelty is abhorrent, culture or no.
Totally agree !!
John & Shel
Sex God
There is plenty of animal cruelty right here on your own door step if you look hard enough, that would be a good place to start in my view
Sex God
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Tell me more Blue.
One small example first
Sex God
its is a shame that another country looses some of its heritage even though it was barbaric
but the bull doesn`t always loose :twisted:
but the bull doesn`t always loose :twisted:
Sex God
Factory farmed pork perhaps
Master of Sex
Surely there's a difference between poor welfare standards for the production of cheap food and abject cruelty purely for entertainment though Blue?
Sex God
Chikens, egg layers and Turkeys enjoy the same
I some times feel people exhibit some double standards, by supporting such farming by buying cheaper and cheaper meat in the supermarket. Then shout about how cruel other country's can be. No fingers pointing here at anyone, Unless the cap fits of coarse
I some times feel people exhibit some double standards, by supporting such farming by buying cheaper and cheaper meat in the supermarket. Then shout about how cruel other country's can be. No fingers pointing here at anyone, Unless the cap fits of coarse
Sex God
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Surely there's a difference between poor welfare standards for the production of cheap food and abject cruelty purely for entertainment though Blue?
I am not sure, is there a moral difference, would need a better brain than I to answer that
Master of Sex
Caged birds are to be outlawed across Europe by 2012.
Sex God
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Caged birds are to be outlawed across Europe by 2012.
Does that mean I have to let the wife out?
Sex God
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Caged birds are to be outlawed across Europe by 2012.
does that include macaws that hate`s men :scared:
Master of Sex
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Caged birds are to be outlawed across Europe by 2012.
Does that mean I have to let the wife out?
Only if she's kept for laying :evil2:
Sex God
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Caged birds are to be outlawed across Europe by 2012.
does that include macaws that hate`s men :scared:
Well, you jest. But unless the law specifically excludes pet birds - it may very well mean it's illegal to keep macaws, budgies and even pigeons in cages. It's all in the wording.
Interesting thought.
Master of Sex
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does that include macaws that hate`s men :scared:
Although it does kind of raise the juxtaposition of people buying free-range eco chickens for dinner and a packet of trill for their budgie in a small cage.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
Tell me more Blue.
One small example first
See where you are coming from with this one Blue....horrid in the extreme.
:thumbup:
Sex God
Quote by flower411
Surely there's a difference between poor welfare standards for the production of cheap food and abject cruelty purely for entertainment though Blue?
Yep .... people turning the killing of animals into entertainament are at least being honest and it could be argued that they have far more respect for the animal than those who allow animals to be tortured so they can have cheap meat and eggs etc.
Good point flower, I think that is a very valid view point!
