Join the most popular community of UK swingers now
Login

De-Criminalise Prostitution !

last reply
18 replies
1.5k views
0 watchers
0 likes
This subject has occasionally come up in passing in these forums, usually as a result of suburbanesque swingers worried about the possible scenario of a sex worker posing as a swinger, turning up to a meet, and then requesting payment once she has stripped down to her knickers.
I thought this should be debated more extensively in wider terms ; my own view is that what consenting adults do with their own bodies is their own business, and therefore sex work should be legalised.
The illegality surrounding it benefits no one exept gangsters, pimps, sex attackers, and those bible basher specemins who regard sex workers coming to harm as a result of the aforementioned as being "punished for sin".
I regard sex workers as a perfectly ok, even interesting,group of ladies who deserve to be treated with respect and protection from the law.
ps; A couple of campaign groups forumistas may want to check out are ;
(International Union of Sex Workers)
Prostitution isn't illegal. rolleyes
You've made a number of sweeping statements in your post, where is it you're getting your 'facts' from?
Most of the original post is not only sweeping but offensive but I don't have time to pick up on all of it.
Quote by Riotandantony
The illegality surrounding it benefits no one exept gangsters, pimps, sex attackers, and those bible basher specemins who regard sex workers coming to harm as a result of the aforementioned as being "punished for sin".

Bollox!!! What about single parents Mums needing to provide shoes for their kids!
Whats about those that like sex so much they might as well get paid for it?
I was offered money to give someone a wank the other day, I didn't do it but I thought about it. I'm not into drugs or have a pimp but I did actually consider an easy buck!
Quote by Riotandantony
I regard sex workers as a perfectly ok, even interesting,group of ladies who deserve to be treated with respect and protection from the law.

See, now this is where I lost my rag. Sex workers, prostitutes, hookers, whatever you call them, they are still human beings no different from the rest of us. Don't make them out like they are leppers!
And while I'm here, why have you not considered male hookers or is that acceptable?
Words fail me. :shock:
"Debate more extensively in wider terms"... why don't you start?
rolleyes
Dawnie and Posh Kate do not appear to have read what was actually written, whilst prostitution itself is not actually illegal itself, most of the activities surrounding it are, thus forcing it into criminality, I certainly am not painting sex workers as lepers - just the opposite - it is the law that does so.
As I stated, legal and social discrimination against sex workers should end, the sooner the better.
Let the genuine debate begin !
I read what was there and I haven't changed my opinion on what I wrote at all.
Quote by Riotandantony
my own view is that what consenting adults do with their own bodies is their own business, and therefore sex work should be legalised.

Sorry for misunderstanding but it was the above section that you wrote that lead me to believe that you were suggesting it was illegal. rolleyes
Quote by Riotandantony
This subject has occasionally come up in passing in these forums, usually as a result of suburbanesque swingers worried about the possible scenario of a sex worker posing as a swinger, turning up to a meet, and then requesting payment once she has stripped down to her knickers.

And while I'm on the topic, this bit just made me giggle smile Why would a hooker go to all the trouble of meeting up with a couple of swingers only to mention being paid when she stripped off and risk being thrown out on her ear, when she could just use the normal channels to find punters who discuss the payment terms upfront! Sorry it just made me laugh! :giggle:
Quote by Dawnie
.......
I was offered money to give someone a wank the other day, I didn't do it but I thought about it. I'm not into drugs or have a pimp but I did actually consider an easy buck!......

Dawnie, if you're interested in turning a quick buck or two then I can introduce you to a pimp mate of mine ....

Want his number? :rascal: ;) :lol2:
Posh Kate ; thanks for re-reading and clearing up any misunderstanding !
Dawnie ; you still seem to mis understand my piece, I actually agree with the broad thrust (no pun intended !) of what you say, there is nothing wrong with a lady who likes sex charging for it - good luck to her, and of course not all working girls are in the hands of pimps etc, but the law as it stands does tend to force them into this and other dangers, ie, if 2 or more women work together for their own safety this is classed as running a brothel and they may be subject to police action.
Quote by Riotandantony
Posh Kate ; thanks for re-reading and clearing up any misunderstanding !
Dawnie ; you still seem to mis understand my piece, I actually agree with the broad thrust (no pun intended !) of what you say, there is nothing wrong with a lady who likes sex charging for it - good luck to her, and of course not all working girls are in the hands of pimps etc, but the law as it stands does tend to force them into this and other dangers, ie, if 2 or more women work together for their own safety this is classed as running a brothel and they may be subject to police action.

There is plenty wrong with a lady who likes sex - and then charges for it.
Good luck to her! Lots of girls like sex, but there are quite a few who do not have a choice about charging for it - or the circumstances that put them in that position in the first place.
How does the law force sex workers into the hands of pimps and the "other dangers" you allude to. There is no statutory compulsion to work for a pimp, and pretty much everything associated with soliciting for the purposes of prostitution and running a disorderly house/keeping a brothel is prohibited by law.
I am not anti or pro prostitution but legalisation is not as simple as you make out.
Re the above - the various laws surrounding prostitution such as soliciting, advertising, running brothels etc force prostitutes, or at least some of them, into the hands of pimps or organised crime - if sex workers could ply their trade legally, this would take it out of the hands of criminals.
I`ve often thought it should be legalised so that the women, or men are off the street, given regular health checks, sexual health advice etc, anything has to be better than being on a "street corner" for most of the night, bringing in punters to areas where "normal" families live, getting hassled by pimps or even other sex workers.
However, I suppose the flip side is where would they go?? I`m sure most of us would be appauled if the opened their businesses close to us.
It is definitely a subject open for debate.
I have lived in Europe for a number of years now - and there are organised Brothels as I am sure most will already know. It cost the equivalent of £40 for sex at an "Eros Centre", and these places are staffed almost exclusively by Eastern Europeans.
Clearly it is the dream of all Eastern Europeans to be prostitutes.... oh hang on... I appear to be talking bollocks.
Furthermore there is no evidence to suggest that the running of a brothel will cut down the number of rapes, sexual assaults or other crime related to prostitution.
As for "forcing" women to "ply their trade" on the streets - what a load of horse shit. Women are forced into prostitution, of that there can be no doubt, but to imply that a legalised brothel will cut down street prostituion is a load of cack.
There is a considerable amount of street prostitution in Europe - the so called "Layby Lil", who plies her trade from a car, camper van or similar. I remain to be convinced that the legalisation of prostitution will cut back the ancilliary issues that it brings with it.
Do prostitutes want their trade legalising, do they want to be registered, approved, vetted.... and TAXED?
I doubt it very much indeed. It works in Europe because the penalties for getting caught are extremely high... not like the UK where a girl is put before the magistrate and fined.
Where does she get the money from to pay the fine... yep.
The bottom line is that sex sells - if you are prepared to undercut the lowest bidder then you will always have business.
For what it is worth I do believe it should be legalised - but not for any "moral" reason. Why should I have to pay taxes but someone who earns a lot more than me does not.
The problem with all prohibition is that it drives things underground. Drugs are illegal so people buy them from grubby criminals and it is the same with prostitution. If prostitution was legal it wouldn't change the demand just the supply. There is a shady and dangerous underworld in the UK where criminals are making a lot of money supplying things that cannot be obtained legally.
Of course prostitution should be legalised, there wouldn't be more prostitutes, just less pimps.
Quote by poshkate
my own view is that what consenting adults do with their own bodies is their own business, and therefore sex work should be legalised.

Sorry for misunderstanding but it was the above section that you wrote that lead me to believe that you were suggesting it was illegal. rolleyes

Quote by Riotandantony
Posh Kate ; thanks for re-reading and clearing up any misunderstanding !

I suggest you re-read PK's comments ;-)
Quote by Dawnie
I was offered money to give someone a wank the other day, I didn't do it but I thought about it.

Care to pass the phone number about ?
Mmmmmm?????
Not really sure I want to get involved in this conversation because both poshkate AND dawnie have highlighted the fact that this thread has gone a little awry, but it seems to me there is a huge difference between legality and social stigma. And it seems that both are being confused.
dunno
*lover*
Quote by Sandybeach1
I`ve often thought it should be legalised so that the women, or men are off the street, given regular health checks, sexual health advice etc, anything has to be better than being on a "street corner" for most of the night, bringing in punters to areas where "normal" families live, getting hassled by pimps or even other sex workers.
However, I suppose the flip side is where would they go?? I`m sure most of us would be appauled if the opened their businesses close to us.
It is definitely a subject open for debate.

I have to agree with most of the posts - but there are a lot of men who would not go to the legal brothels if they existed - they like the thrill of getting a girl off the street - so even if it was totaly legalised with lovely brothels, health checks etc there would still be the same amount of girls/guys plying their trade on the streets. What if you fail a health check? Do you stop once you've been asked to leave the safety of the brothel? No - you'd go on the streets.
This is a great debate!
When their health check reveals to them that they're HIV+, or HEP (A)(B)(C)(D) + then they're going to say "oh shit....now I'll have to retire to normal work and give up selling it" ?
Nope, they'll just carry-on flogging the fanny and charging extra for bareback.