Deportation

28 Jun 2011

I'm a committed European through and through but piece of news must be extremely worrying for UK citizens.
Rapists, murderers, Class A drug dealers - the worst dregs of society are all open to come to the UK and live off the State and even be paid for the privilege.
Last year, President Sarkozy was castigated for running similar miscreants from Romania out of the Country. He totally ignored Strasbourg and suggested not only where they could put their ruling but how far up it should be inserted. It died a death. The Romanians were bundled in to a plane and sent back where they belonged. If Strasbourg imposed a fine for France ignoring it's ruling, it just got added to the billions of Euro it already owes and which it will never pay.
Why can't the UK Government do the same? What teeth do Strasbourg actually have to prevent it from happening?
Bundle the miscreants on a plane and throw them out at 30,000 feet with a threadbare parachute.
They deserve nothing better for their evil crimes but the general population deserves better protection from them by it's Government.

28 Jun 2011

Can we not just offer them free accomodation in Strasbourg??
When the judges fear for their own safety they might change their take on the law.

28 Jun 2011

This goverment has not got the bollocks to do it...........................

29 Jun 2011

sounds like a typical case of immigration scaremongering to me.
last stats I saw demonstrated that immigrants - ESPECIALLY illegal ones - were in fact MORE law abiding than the average brit - presumably for the simple reason that they have a great deal more to lose if they are caught.
I say let them in and send the malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate (who I strongly suspect of stealing my motorbike) to Romania instead - they can't be any worse than them - who knows they might have a modicum of appreciation for this fine country of ours

29 Jun 2011

Quote by tee-em-aitch
sounds like a typical case of immigration scaremongering to me.
last stats I saw demonstrated that immigrants - ESPECIALLY illegal ones - were in fact MORE law abiding than the average brit - presumably for the simple reason that they have a great deal more to lose if they are caught.
I say let them in and send the malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate (who I strongly suspect of stealing my motorbike) to Romania instead - they can't be any worse than them - who knows they might have a modicum of appreciation for this fine country of ours

Could I just point you in the direction of the 'chavs' thread

29 Jun 2011

I do however have to agree that this does smack of typical media scaremongering

29 Jun 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I do however have to agree that this does smack of typical media scaremongering

bollix and you know it Staggs.
And, also referring you the 'chavs' thread, Border Agency staff going on strike is really going to help keep Britain secure from those foreigners with evil intent, isn't it?

29 Jun 2011

No G there is more than a little element of scaremongering present here.
I am I admit conflicted here .... whilst I fully agree with the ruling that no-one should be deported into harms way...there is the problem that the asylum claim of one of those mentioned has already been denied. As I say conflicted
I have to conclude that though I agree with the ruling on deportation I do not know enough about the specific cases to jump one way or another on them....I know it's a cop out but it's the best I can do for now

29 Jun 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
No G there is more than a little element of scaremongering present here.
I am I admit conflicted here .... whilst I fully agree with the ruling that no-one should be deported into harms way...there is the problem that the asylum claim of one of those mentioned has already been denied. As I say conflicted
I have to conclude that though I agree with the ruling on deportation I do not know enough about the specific cases to jump one way or another on them....I know it's a cop out but it's the best I can do for now

an image I posted to answer flower in another thread..

but this time it's intended to be humorous.... :lol2:

29 Jun 2011

Quote by flower411
sounds like a typical case of immigration scaremongering to me.
last stats I saw demonstrated that immigrants - ESPECIALLY illegal ones - were in fact MORE law abiding than the average brit - presumably for the simple reason that they have a great deal more to lose if they are caught.
I say let them in and send the malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate (who I strongly suspect of stealing my motorbike) to Romania instead - they can't be any worse than them - who knows they might have a modicum of appreciation for this fine country of ours

Could I just point you in the direction of the 'chavs' thread
You see !!!
It`s your prejudices we are dealing with here !!
He said "malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate"
And you heard ...
" Everybody on my local council estate is a malingering dole scrounging scumbag"
You really should listen to what people say and stop jumping in with ya own prejudiced view of the working classes !!!
:thumbup:
we are dealing with someone who obviously has been delt a shit hand in the life stakes

29 Jun 2011

Quote by flower411
sounds like a typical case of immigration scaremongering to me.
last stats I saw demonstrated that immigrants - ESPECIALLY illegal ones - were in fact MORE law abiding than the average brit - presumably for the simple reason that they have a great deal more to lose if they are caught.
I say let them in and send the malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate (who I strongly suspect of stealing my motorbike) to Romania instead - they can't be any worse than them - who knows they might have a modicum of appreciation for this fine country of ours

Could I just point you in the direction of the 'chavs' thread
You see !!!
It`s your prejudices we are dealing with here !!
He said "malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate"
And you heard ...
" Everybody on my local council estate is a malingering dole scrounging scumbag"
You really should listen to what people say and stop jumping in with ya own prejudiced view of the working classes !!!

30 Jun 2011

Obviously there is a much different debate regarding immigration and the problems or perceived problems this generates, my points here only relate to the increasingly dictatorial and self serving decisions coming from Strasbourg.
They seem intent on alienating themselves from all but their own little world where they never have to deal directly with the people they are there to represent, not repress their collective wishes.
Anyone actually arguing an illegal immigrant convicted of a serious crime deserves the protection of assylum??

30 Jun 2011

The thing that gets me wound up is.............
We can't deport an ilegal/legal imigrant back to where they came from if thier life is going to be in danger, so WTF do they commit crime when they get here?
IMO, an imigrant, legal or not, should be model citizens, after all, it was thier choice to come here...............

30 Jun 2011

Quote by starlightcouple
sounds like a typical case of immigration scaremongering to me.
last stats I saw demonstrated that immigrants - ESPECIALLY illegal ones - were in fact MORE law abiding than the average brit - presumably for the simple reason that they have a great deal more to lose if they are caught.
I say let them in and send the malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate (who I strongly suspect of stealing my motorbike) to Romania instead - they can't be any worse than them - who knows they might have a modicum of appreciation for this fine country of ours

Could I just point you in the direction of the 'chavs' thread
You see !!!
It`s your prejudices we are dealing with here !!
He said "malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate"
And you heard ...
" Everybody on my local council estate is a malingering dole scrounging scumbag"
You really should listen to what people say and stop jumping in with ya own prejudiced view of the working classes !!!
:thumbup:
we are dealing with someone who obviously has been delt a shit hand in the life stakes
Only just noticed this one...Can I suggest that you know fuck all about me and my life or circumstances....can I also suggest that you take yourself off somwhere and expire

1 Jul 2011

Quote by tee-em-aitch
sounds like a typical case of immigration scaremongering to me.
last stats I saw demonstrated that immigrants - ESPECIALLY illegal ones - were in fact MORE law abiding than the average brit - presumably for the simple reason that they have a great deal more to lose if they are caught.
I say let them in and send the] malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate (who I strongly suspect of stealing my motorbike) to Romania instead - they can't be any worse than them - who knows they might have a modicum of appreciation for this fine country of ours

i think there are plenty people like this on private estates too.i know of two couples where both partners are having mortgages paid by the social,so their malingering costs the tax payer twice as much

1 Jul 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Can I suggest that you know fuck all about me and my life or circumstances....can I also suggest that you take yourself off somwhere and expire

stare long enough into the abyss and the abyss stares back at you :notes:

1 Jul 2011

Quote by starlightcouple
Can I suggest that you know fuck all about me and my life or circumstances....can I also suggest that you take yourself off somwhere and expire

stare long enough into the abyss and the abyss stares back at you :notes:
My my it reads....a shame it doesn't understand what it reads, but baby steps

1 Jul 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
My my it reads....a shame it doesn't understand what it reads, but baby steps

i much prefere this one actualy.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster" dont you think it has a ring to it?
have a nice jolly weekend :notes:

1 Jul 2011

Quote by annejohn
sounds like a typical case of immigration scaremongering to me.
last stats I saw demonstrated that immigrants - ESPECIALLY illegal ones - were in fact MORE law abiding than the average brit - presumably for the simple reason that they have a great deal more to lose if they are caught.
I say let them in and send the] malingering dole scrounging scumbags in my local council estate (who I strongly suspect of stealing my motorbike) to Romania instead - they can't be any worse than them - who knows they might have a modicum of appreciation for this fine country of ours

i think there are plenty people like this on private estates too.i know of two couples where both partners are having mortgages paid by the social,so their malingering costs the tax payer twice as much
True, so dont bring yet more into the country smile

Like I have said for years we have our OWN problems to deal with.

1 Jul 2011

Quote by starlightcouple

My my it reads....a shame it doesn't understand what it reads, but baby steps

i much prefere this one actualy.
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster" dont you think it has a ring to it?
have a nice jolly weekend :notes:
As I said shame it doesn't understand what it reads

2 Jul 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
As I said shame it doesn't understand what it reads

i understand perfectley well thankyou very much.
i also understand perfectley well why peeple do not post on this forum. this question has been asked many times, is it any wonder looking back over some of your comments. you are the classic internet bully. you could actualy pick a fight with yourself and most probably have.

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

Quote by somebody else
If thats all they are here for then I'd suggest that they go to the pub.

Quote by you then
So as of the 6th you can find me in the Woodseats Palace

in reel life peeple will not put up with bullys hence why after your flounce you came back hear to restart your bullying all over any pub around my way with your atitude you would not last five minutes in therer but lasted a bit longer in the woodseats. :twisted:
as i said alredy you could pick a fight with yourself and keep yourself very amused for hours. the above coments i found quite openley on this forum. lol

the internet i am afraid has many things including bullys and that is my last word on this thred but i know it will not be yours. it is such a shame that peeple are allowed it seams to get away with this and it is as plain as chips that is a big reeson why peeple do not post on here. :notes:
i have only just paid my monthly fee and if the forum was the only part of this site i would have left months ago but it is not and we have spoken to many lovely peeple. the forum i am afraid is curently letting the sight down. :sad:
you can and will reply back but i will do what others should do and now ignore you.

2 Jul 2011

I see nothing wrong in Staggs posts and he puts accross one side of the argument eloquently.
He does argue his point well which appears to nark some of the opposing "views" whose arguments then appear to loose credence when they resort to name calling and accusations of foul play
I for one enjoy his posts ... and the measured replies from one or two of his opponents.
The reason i don't post on the forum and only observe is not for fear of bullying but the feeling that it would just be a case of banging one's head against a brick wall
May reasoned debate continue .. or possibly start .. and the name calling and petty obsessions with trying to prove someone "wrong" cease.
There are always differing views to current affairs and as someone with a keen interest in history and politics i like to see these
Maybe a swingers forum isn't the place for me to find these debates !!

2 Jul 2011

Quote by Suedey
I see nothing wrong in Staggs posts and he puts accross one side of the argument eloquently.
He does argue his point well which appears to nark some of the opposing "views" whose arguments then appear to loose credence when they resort to name calling and accusations of foul play
I for one enjoy his posts ... and the measured replies from one or two of his opponents.
The reason i don't post on the forum and only observe is not for fear of bullying but the feeling that it would just be a case of banging one's head against a brick wall
May reasoned debate continue .. or possibly start .. and the name calling and petty obsessions with trying to prove someone "wrong" cease.
There are always differing views to current affairs and as someone with a keen interest in history and politics i like to see these
Maybe a swingers forum isn't the place for me to find these debates !!

:thumbup:

2 Jul 2011

Quote by Suedey
There are always differing views to current affairs and as someone with a keen interest in history and politics i like to see these

and long may you continue to look...
Just dab a toe in the water occasionally and make a contribution though. Your posting was well constructed and shows you to be articulate. I'd enjoy a good debate with you as I'm sure a few others here will and I don't even know which 'side' you're on yet :lol2:

2 Jul 2011

Being a european is one thing, being fucked over by every other EU member country is another, as long as the government(s) allow us to be used the way we are then we should not be in europe
What does being a member of the EU do for us (bearing in mind the millions we pay into it each month
Does being a member mean that other EU members will trade with us (France still refuses to sell British Beef in most supermarkets).
Will BMW, Citroen, Volkswagon, Mercedes, Peugeot, Fiat, Skoda and all the other EU car manufacturers refuse to sell thier cars in Britain, will all EU members refuse to sell thier products in this country, not in a million years, they could not afford to stop exporting to Britain, neither can they do without many of the products manufactured here.
Switzerland is the RICHEST country in the world, the world not just europe, situated in the heart of europe, surrounded by France, Germany, Italy and Austria, they are NOT members of the EU, yet based on lifestyle and disposable income the Swiss are the richest, forget a few rich Russians or a few rich Arabs, everyone in Switzerland is better off than anyone else in the world pro rata to job, status etc.
It's time to ask ourselves - do we want to be in the EU, do the benefits outweigh the negatives, is being a member still cost effective, do we want to choose the size of our bananas ourselves or have it dictated to us by the EU

2 Jul 2011

Quote by MidsCouple24
snip...
It's time to ask ourselves - do we want to be in the EU, do the benefits outweigh the negatives, is being a member still cost effective, do we want to choose the size of our bananas ourselves or have it dictated to us by the EU

The Euro-sceptic mantra has long been, 'in Europe, but not ruled by Europe'.
I still support that.
At a time when other Member Nations are on their knees financially, the Commission constantly bumping up the costs of membership is wholly unrealistic. These unelected clowns continue to spend money like it is going out of fashion (actually, it is!). The Labour appointed Baroness Ashton, Vice-president and high representative of the Union for foreign affairs and security policy, is one of the worst offenders. This person has never been elected to Public Office, appears to be accountable to no-one but herself and holds the purse strings to one of the Commissions biggest budgets where she sees herself as a European US Secretary of State but without the teeth appointing 'mini-mees' all over the world with huge budgets and grand expense accounts including, in one case I recall, a State owned bullet proof limousine and a team of security personnel on some tiny island somewhere in the Pacific (I think) with a population of about 20 people!
These are the things that should be dismantled to save money in Europe.
Incredibly, they complain about the lack of democracy in regimes like Libya and Syria but at the same time have idiots like Ashton (and many others) who cannot be removed from office and were not elected there in the first place.

2 Jul 2011

Don't get me started on Europe ....... I'd kick seven shades out of the lot of you , so just admit I'm right now and I'll let you all off

3 Jul 2011

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
....I'd kick seven shades out of the lot of you

But, will the seven shades be the approved ones under Art of the Commissions guidance on size, weight, colouring and water content?
and will there be appropriate and approved means of disposal under Art for correct disposal of the said 7 shades thereafter, having served their authorised usage so as not to cause undue offence?
bolt

3 Jul 2011

Quote by GnV
....I'd kick seven shades out of the lot of you

But, will the seven shades be the approved ones under Art of the Commissions guidance on size, weight, colouring and water content?
and will there be appropriate and approved means of disposal under Art for correct disposal of the said 7 shades thereafter, having served their authorised usage so as not to cause undue offence?
bolt

You should know better than to bait the school bully G

Are you sure?