I know this is a very delicate subject but following the news of Robin Williams who's been found dead due to suspected suicide from depression, do you think people are still afraid to speak out and admit they're depressed for fear of being labelled?
Especially men who are worried they could be labelled as wimps / weak? Do you think there will always be a stigma attached? I do.
I feel the term depression is thrown around far too easily by some, there is a difference to feeling a bit sad to feeling depressed. Also fearing being labelled 'loopy' or that they'll snap out of it. Or to man up.
I have known a guy who committed suicide because money pressures got on top of him and pressures to provide for his family, it was all too much and despite mentioning suicide, no one took him seriously until it was too late. I personally think more should be done but what?
Deep topic I know :uhoh:
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Depression
In my experience depression, like sexuality, has an infinite scale. It ranges from mild irritability right through to full blown mania. On a couple of occasions I've been to see my GP about stress at work and one of the first questions I always get asked is if I've thought about harming myself. Luckily I've never been that desperate, but sadly I have known people who've taken their own life whilst never giving any outward signs of suffering. Thankfully, I also know a lot of people who've sought help and came through it. I think the problem is one of admission - to others, and to ourselves - that something is wrong. If a limb is broken we admit it, but if our mind is broken we keep it under cover, perhaps for fear of the perceived stigma.
I put up with depression (I won't say I suffer with it, because I give it hell, so I prefer to think that I simply put up with it being around), I have my good days, my bad days, my fabulous days and my dark demonic days.
Some of mine stemmed from when I was bullied at school, always referred to as the ugly friend and after I had kids the issue deepened into PND and alcoholism mixed with a mentally abusive ex husband (not the best years of my life), however now Im sober, divorced, and doing a job I love. I don't take tablets (I simply don't want to!) and keep active as much as I can.
I am unfortunately left with a self doubt issue, I doubt everything I do, expect to be let down a lot and have confidence problems... life sucks at times :sad:
Some of mine stemmed from when I was bullied at school, always referred to as the ugly friend and after I had kids the issue deepened into PND and alcoholism mixed with a mentally abusive ex husband (not the best years of my life), however now Im sober, divorced, and doing a job I love. I don't take tablets (I simply don't want to!) and keep active as much as I can.
I am unfortunately left with a self doubt issue, I doubt everything I do, expect to be let down a lot and have confidence problems... life sucks at times :sad:
I'm not ashamed to say I've had depression through grief and it was hell but thankfully I have well and truly kicked its arse! I don't think there's any lower than you can go once you've been down, you want to just be you again but you can't. Life changes do not help but I do believe it makes you stronger.
I had no help or support from my gp but he should have offered some form of counselling I feel. So I just got on with it, made me miserable in everything I did - lost interest in most things. I chose not to bother my doctor, I've seen friends in the past become walking zombies when on antidepressants. I didn't want to be labelled which is bad to think like that and I didn't want to be put on drugs which would alter me. Who knows what the long term effects would be.
I did however turn to a different kind of drug - food. So now I've a fat bum and bigger boobs, well have recently lost weight so not as big as before but who can complain with free boobies. :thrilled:
Anyway life is very different now but wouldn't like to go through that again. I do feel once you've been through the shittiest shit, things can't get any shittier. Talking is really important and anyone who tells you to stop moaning, well walk a mile and all that.
It's always easier to judge when you cannot even begin to imagine what it's like.
Not many people will admit they've been through it.
I had no help or support from my gp but he should have offered some form of counselling I feel. So I just got on with it, made me miserable in everything I did - lost interest in most things. I chose not to bother my doctor, I've seen friends in the past become walking zombies when on antidepressants. I didn't want to be labelled which is bad to think like that and I didn't want to be put on drugs which would alter me. Who knows what the long term effects would be.
I did however turn to a different kind of drug - food. So now I've a fat bum and bigger boobs, well have recently lost weight so not as big as before but who can complain with free boobies. :thrilled:
Anyway life is very different now but wouldn't like to go through that again. I do feel once you've been through the shittiest shit, things can't get any shittier. Talking is really important and anyone who tells you to stop moaning, well walk a mile and all that.
It's always easier to judge when you cannot even begin to imagine what it's like.
Not many people will admit they've been through it.
Quote by Angeluk69
I put up with depression (I won't say I suffer with it, because I give it hell, so I prefer to think that I simply put up with it being around), I have my good days, my bad days, my fabulous days and my dark demonic days.
Some of mine stemmed from when I was bullied at school, always referred to as the ugly friend and after I had kids the issue deepened into PND and alcoholism mixed with a mentally abusive ex husband (not the best years of my life), however now Im sober, divorced, and doing a job I love. I don't take tablets (I simply don't want to!) and keep active as much as I can.
I am unfortunately left with a self doubt issue, I doubt everything I do, expect to be let down a lot and have confidence problems... life sucks at times :sad:
Hugs. Your confidence will get better in time, jeez you've taken a battering so it's not surprising! Have you thought about natural therapies like cbt and hypnotherapy? They can really help retrain your mind to think on a positive note :thumbup:
Your confidence been trodden on so much you've forgotten how to use it but easily put back. EMDR another great alternative therapy - easily found on web if you want to know more.
I have been prone to depression since i was a teenager - it creeps up on me like a big storm cloud and i have been known to swing between the darkest depths right up to complete manic highs. After various spells on medication and years of having to deal with it on a daily basis I am thankfully stable 
There is a huge difference between Clinical Depression and Bi-Polar which is a lifelong condition which I have learnt to live with - after all its part of me so i have had to accept it.
The stigma of any mental illness is a hard cross to bear, for example: Should you declare it on a job application???? Because despite the fact that employers have to treat everyone equally - in my experience if you mention mental illness they put your application on the bottom of the pile, as mental illness is unpredictable and they don't want unpredictable people working for them.
Mental Illness is still a subject in society despite the fact that 70% of new mothers are likely to suffer from post-partum depression (not the baby blues by the way, i think 99% get that) - and thats when i had my first real experience of the illness taking hold, i was 20 years old and my partner came home to find me rocking in a corner of the kitchen while the baby was screaming in another room - two weeks in a secure unit and total oblivion of 4 different medications got me through that little episode.
Clinical depression can be kicked off by events, birth, marriage, divorce, death, the weather - ANYTHING - it starts circumstantial but if you have a tendancy towards depression it can quickly escalate into clinical and in my case a full-on Bi-Polar episode. Its a curse some of us have to live with, so i think in society there should be a more open attitude to mental illness. The following link is the start of changing attitudes and is a good read :)
Finally on the subject of suicide, some people affected by mental illness keep it so well hidden and are so deep into their personal misery that you wouldn't be able to tell if they were contemplating it, if anyone has been affected by the aftermath of suicide in their family they must not blame themselves, or wonder if they could have done something to prevent it because its impossible to predict. the Godmother of my daughter and my oldest and very dearest friend who I regarded as a sister took her own like in November 2003. she had drunk bleach two weeks before she took her own life, and had spent time being evaluated on a psych ward and was released without any aftercare, she phoned me 3 days before she died and said stuff to me that gave me an inkling she was contemplating suicide, I had found her twice before having attempted it, 3 days later her partner phoned me, he had come home from work and she had slit her own throat in the bathroom, I felt so terribly guilty but I knew deep down i could never have done anything to stop it from happening. Yes suicide is called selfish because of the aftermath but spare a thought for the victim, what utter turmoil they must have gone through to have done that, knowing what a horrible scene it would be for a loved one to discover. Ive been there myself, and thankfully i failed and im still here, Im grateful every day that I survived and learnt to live with the illness and I KNOW that there are services i can access to help me.
So people thats my essay over and done with, and remember please, if you spot any signs of depression in a loved one please seek help and be gentle with them, you never know what a difference you could make just by being open and loving to them xxxxxx
There is a huge difference between Clinical Depression and Bi-Polar which is a lifelong condition which I have learnt to live with - after all its part of me so i have had to accept it.The stigma of any mental illness is a hard cross to bear, for example: Should you declare it on a job application???? Because despite the fact that employers have to treat everyone equally - in my experience if you mention mental illness they put your application on the bottom of the pile, as mental illness is unpredictable and they don't want unpredictable people working for them.
Mental Illness is still a subject in society despite the fact that 70% of new mothers are likely to suffer from post-partum depression (not the baby blues by the way, i think 99% get that) - and thats when i had my first real experience of the illness taking hold, i was 20 years old and my partner came home to find me rocking in a corner of the kitchen while the baby was screaming in another room - two weeks in a secure unit and total oblivion of 4 different medications got me through that little episode.
Clinical depression can be kicked off by events, birth, marriage, divorce, death, the weather - ANYTHING - it starts circumstantial but if you have a tendancy towards depression it can quickly escalate into clinical and in my case a full-on Bi-Polar episode. Its a curse some of us have to live with, so i think in society there should be a more open attitude to mental illness. The following link is the start of changing attitudes and is a good read :)
Finally on the subject of suicide, some people affected by mental illness keep it so well hidden and are so deep into their personal misery that you wouldn't be able to tell if they were contemplating it, if anyone has been affected by the aftermath of suicide in their family they must not blame themselves, or wonder if they could have done something to prevent it because its impossible to predict. the Godmother of my daughter and my oldest and very dearest friend who I regarded as a sister took her own like in November 2003. she had drunk bleach two weeks before she took her own life, and had spent time being evaluated on a psych ward and was released without any aftercare, she phoned me 3 days before she died and said stuff to me that gave me an inkling she was contemplating suicide, I had found her twice before having attempted it, 3 days later her partner phoned me, he had come home from work and she had slit her own throat in the bathroom, I felt so terribly guilty but I knew deep down i could never have done anything to stop it from happening. Yes suicide is called selfish because of the aftermath but spare a thought for the victim, what utter turmoil they must have gone through to have done that, knowing what a horrible scene it would be for a loved one to discover. Ive been there myself, and thankfully i failed and im still here, Im grateful every day that I survived and learnt to live with the illness and I KNOW that there are services i can access to help me.
So people thats my essay over and done with, and remember please, if you spot any signs of depression in a loved one please seek help and be gentle with them, you never know what a difference you could make just by being open and loving to them xxxxxx
Orgasminator
Depression can be a very "selfish" thing.
Unless someone has actually got depression, its very difficult to understand it.
People didnt understand why "happy Dee" was suddenly "unhappy dee"
We all have demons to live with. Some cope better than others.
I had counselling many years ago..still hasdnt got rid of some things.
Ive learnt to deal with it.
Talking about it when im in the right frame of mind is good.
More often than not tho....its kept hidden.
Anyway........im having a good day today xxx
Unless someone has actually got depression, its very difficult to understand it.
People didnt understand why "happy Dee" was suddenly "unhappy dee"
We all have demons to live with. Some cope better than others.
I had counselling many years ago..still hasdnt got rid of some things.
Ive learnt to deal with it.
Talking about it when im in the right frame of mind is good.
More often than not tho....its kept hidden.
Anyway........im having a good day today xxx
Orgasminator
Quote by Katniss
I have been prone to depression since i was a teenager - it creeps up on me like a big storm cloud and i have been known to swing between the darkest depths right up to complete manic highs. After various spells on medication and years of having to deal with it on a daily basis I am thankfully stable
The stigma of any mental illness is a hard cross to bear, for example: Should you declare it on a job application???? Because despite the fact that employers have to treat everyone equally - in my experience if you mention mental illness they put your application on the bottom of the pile, as mental illness is unpredictable and they don't want unpredictable people working for them.
Mental Illness is still a subject in society despite the fact that 70% of new mothers are likely to suffer from post-partum depression (not the baby blues by the way, i think 99% get that) - and thats when i had my first real experience of the illness taking hold, i was 20 years old and my partner came home to find me rocking in a corner of the kitchen while the baby was screaming in another room - two weeks in a secure unit and total oblivion of 4 different medications got me through that little episode.
Clinical depression can be kicked off by events, birth, marriage, divorce, death, the weather - ANYTHING - it starts circumstantial but if you have a tendancy towards depression it can quickly escalate into clinical and in my case a full-on Bi-Polar episode. Its a curse some of us have to live with, so i think in society there should be a more open attitude to mental illness. The following link is the start of changing attitudes and is a good read :)
Finally on the subject of suicide, some people affected by mental illness keep it so well hidden and are so deep into their personal misery that you wouldn't be able to tell if they were contemplating it, if anyone has been affected by the aftermath of suicide in their family they must not blame themselves, or wonder if they could have done something to prevent it because its impossible to predict. the Godmother of my daughter and my oldest and very dearest friend who I regarded as a sister took her own like in November 2003. she had drunk bleach two weeks before she took her own life, and had spent time being evaluated on a psych ward and was released without any aftercare, she phoned me 3 days before she died and said stuff to me that gave me an inkling she was contemplating suicide, I had found her twice before having attempted it, 3 days later her partner phoned me, he had come home from work and she had slit her own throat in the bathroom, I felt so terribly guilty but I knew deep down i could never have done anything to stop it from happening. Yes suicide is called selfish because of the aftermath but spare a thought for the victim, what utter turmoil they must have gone through to have done that, knowing what a horrible scene it would be for a loved one to discover. Ive been there myself, and thankfully i failed and im still here, Im grateful every day that I survived and learnt to live with the illness and I KNOW that there are services i can access to help me.
So people thats my essay over and done with, and remember please, if you spot any signs of depression in a loved one please seek help and be gentle with them, you never know what a difference you could make just by being open and loving to them xxxxxx
Kat.....I lost my sister when she was only 12. And yes I am a victim. Still haunts me xx
Quote by Katniss
I have been prone to depression since i was a teenager - it creeps up on me like a big storm cloud and i have been known to swing between the darkest depths right up to complete manic highs. After various spells on medication and years of having to deal with it on a daily basis I am thankfully stable
The stigma of any mental illness is a hard cross to bear, for example: Should you declare it on a job application???? Because despite the fact that employers have to treat everyone equally - in my experience if you mention mental illness they put your application on the bottom of the pile, as mental illness is unpredictable and they don't want unpredictable people working for them.
Mental Illness is still a subject in society despite the fact that 70% of new mothers are likely to suffer from post-partum depression (not the baby blues by the way, i think 99% get that) - and thats when i had my first real experience of the illness taking hold, i was 20 years old and my partner came home to find me rocking in a corner of the kitchen while the baby was screaming in another room - two weeks in a secure unit and total oblivion of 4 different medications got me through that little episode.
Clinical depression can be kicked off by events, birth, marriage, divorce, death, the weather - ANYTHING - it starts circumstantial but if you have a tendancy towards depression it can quickly escalate into clinical and in my case a full-on Bi-Polar episode. Its a curse some of us have to live with, so i think in society there should be a more open attitude to mental illness. The following link is the start of changing attitudes and is a good read :)
Finally on the subject of suicide, some people affected by mental illness keep it so well hidden and are so deep into their personal misery that you wouldn't be able to tell if they were contemplating it, if anyone has been affected by the aftermath of suicide in their family they must not blame themselves, or wonder if they could have done something to prevent it because its impossible to predict. the Godmother of my daughter and my oldest and very dearest friend who I regarded as a sister took her own like in November 2003. she had drunk bleach two weeks before she took her own life, and had spent time being evaluated on a psych ward and was released without any aftercare, she phoned me 3 days before she died and said stuff to me that gave me an inkling she was contemplating suicide, I had found her twice before having attempted it, 3 days later her partner phoned me, he had come home from work and she had slit her own throat in the bathroom, I felt so terribly guilty but I knew deep down i could never have done anything to stop it from happening. Yes suicide is called selfish because of the aftermath but spare a thought for the victim, what utter turmoil they must have gone through to have done that, knowing what a horrible scene it would be for a loved one to discover. Ive been there myself, and thankfully i failed and im still here, Im grateful every day that I survived and learnt to live with the illness and I KNOW that there are services i can access to help me.
So people thats my essay over and done with, and remember please, if you spot any signs of depression in a loved one please seek help and be gentle with them, you never know what a difference you could make just by being open and loving to them xxxxxx
The mind is very complex and we have so much to deal / cope with as it is. I feel the brain just goes on overload struggling to breakdown the new event that has suddenly jolted you backwards. The brain whirring away trying to process everything but also got demands of life in general. Some people still see it as a weakness if you admit you're finding things tough, probably why it's easier not to mention it.
I have suffered from depression following some very traumatic times in my life, the first time i got no help from my GP but eventually i improved, probably because i had a young child to look after. Other times i have had help from my GP (a different GP thou), sometimes just sitting crying in the doctors room helped ease my big black cloud hovering over me ! I am lucky because each time i have got through it and its usually because i have my children to look after, think of and help, if it hadnt been for them then goodness knows how i would have got through !
I find it hard to tell others because there is still a stigma around depression and many people have just told me to "get on with it" oh if only it was that easy, my mum said i was suffering from my "nerves" .... we really do need to talk about it more to others, not about ourselves but about depression in general.
Its not something you can catch but you would think it was by the way some people behave when you admit you have it .... its a chemical imbalance in the brain and it can be helped but it would be a lot easier if the general public didnt place such a stigma on it !
I find it hard to tell others because there is still a stigma around depression and many people have just told me to "get on with it" oh if only it was that easy, my mum said i was suffering from my "nerves" .... we really do need to talk about it more to others, not about ourselves but about depression in general.
Its not something you can catch but you would think it was by the way some people behave when you admit you have it .... its a chemical imbalance in the brain and it can be helped but it would be a lot easier if the general public didnt place such a stigma on it !
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I have suffered from depression following some very traumatic times in my life, the first time i got no help from my GP but eventually i improved, probably because i had a young child to look after. Other times i have had help from my GP (a different GP thou), sometimes just sitting crying in the doctors room helped ease my big black cloud hovering over me ! I am lucky because each time i have got through it and its usually because i have my children to look after, think of and help, if it hadnt been for them then goodness knows how i would have got through !
I find it hard to tell others because there is still a stigma around depression and many people have just told me to "get on with it" oh if only it was that easy, my mum said i was suffering from my "nerves" .... we really do need to talk about it more to others, not about ourselves but about depression in general.
Its not something you can catch but you would think it was by the way some people behave when you admit you have it .... its a chemical imbalance in the brain and it can be helped but it would be a lot easier if the general public didnt place such a stigma on it !
People are so quick to label and condemn others before even wondering what journey they could have been through. It probably gives them a boost to what little self esteem they have. There's usually one who is perfect of course! I do feel if grief for one was tackled as important and addressed same as other life changing events. Then people wouldn't turn to other things to cope. Overeating, under eating, drugs, alcohol. Obviously a means for a coping strategy. Then you get tarred as the next label; drug abuser, alcoholic, lazy etc!
If your mind is feeling good it makes you want to do things you love, exercise gives you a natural boost but feeling depressed gives you no self worth, no energy, no get up and go - so have to tackle the bigger picture before getting any motivation back. I don't think overloading the brain with medicine is always the answer but I feel doctors do because of lack of time and money. Wouldn't it be easier if we could read people's minds
in some ways it would, then I could tell someone to eff off without uttering a word :mrgreen: Quote by dee_licious
I have been prone to depression since i was a teenager - it creeps up on me like a big storm cloud and i have been known to swing between the darkest depths right up to complete manic highs. After various spells on medication and years of having to deal with it on a daily basis I am thankfully stable
The stigma of any mental illness is a hard cross to bear, for example: Should you declare it on a job application???? Because despite the fact that employers have to treat everyone equally - in my experience if you mention mental illness they put your application on the bottom of the pile, as mental illness is unpredictable and they don't want unpredictable people working for them.
Mental Illness is still a subject in society despite the fact that 70% of new mothers are likely to suffer from post-partum depression (not the baby blues by the way, i think 99% get that) - and thats when i had my first real experience of the illness taking hold, i was 20 years old and my partner came home to find me rocking in a corner of the kitchen while the baby was screaming in another room - two weeks in a secure unit and total oblivion of 4 different medications got me through that little episode.
Clinical depression can be kicked off by events, birth, marriage, divorce, death, the weather - ANYTHING - it starts circumstantial but if you have a tendancy towards depression it can quickly escalate into clinical and in my case a full-on Bi-Polar episode. Its a curse some of us have to live with, so i think in society there should be a more open attitude to mental illness. The following link is the start of changing attitudes and is a good read :)
Finally on the subject of suicide, some people affected by mental illness keep it so well hidden and are so deep into their personal misery that you wouldn't be able to tell if they were contemplating it, if anyone has been affected by the aftermath of suicide in their family they must not blame themselves, or wonder if they could have done something to prevent it because its impossible to predict. the Godmother of my daughter and my oldest and very dearest friend who I regarded as a sister took her own like in November 2003. she had drunk bleach two weeks before she took her own life, and had spent time being evaluated on a psych ward and was released without any aftercare, she phoned me 3 days before she died and said stuff to me that gave me an inkling she was contemplating suicide, I had found her twice before having attempted it, 3 days later her partner phoned me, he had come home from work and she had slit her own throat in the bathroom, I felt so terribly guilty but I knew deep down i could never have done anything to stop it from happening. Yes suicide is called selfish because of the aftermath but spare a thought for the victim, what utter turmoil they must have gone through to have done that, knowing what a horrible scene it would be for a loved one to discover. Ive been there myself, and thankfully i failed and im still here, Im grateful every day that I survived and learnt to live with the illness and I KNOW that there are services i can access to help me.
So people thats my essay over and done with, and remember please, if you spot any signs of depression in a loved one please seek help and be gentle with them, you never know what a difference you could make just by being open and loving to them xxxxxx
Kat.....I lost my sister when she was only 12. And yes I am a victim. Still haunts me xx
:neutral: my thoughts are with you. I lost a sibling too
life sucks and we're supposed to just get on with it. It never goes away xxx Orgasminator
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I have been prone to depression since i was a teenager - it creeps up on me like a big storm cloud and i have been known to swing between the darkest depths right up to complete manic highs. After various spells on medication and years of having to deal with it on a daily basis I am thankfully stable
The stigma of any mental illness is a hard cross to bear, for example: Should you declare it on a job application???? Because despite the fact that employers have to treat everyone equally - in my experience if you mention mental illness they put your application on the bottom of the pile, as mental illness is unpredictable and they don't want unpredictable people working for them.
Mental Illness is still a subject in society despite the fact that 70% of new mothers are likely to suffer from post-partum depression (not the baby blues by the way, i think 99% get that) - and thats when i had my first real experience of the illness taking hold, i was 20 years old and my partner came home to find me rocking in a corner of the kitchen while the baby was screaming in another room - two weeks in a secure unit and total oblivion of 4 different medications got me through that little episode.
Clinical depression can be kicked off by events, birth, marriage, divorce, death, the weather - ANYTHING - it starts circumstantial but if you have a tendancy towards depression it can quickly escalate into clinical and in my case a full-on Bi-Polar episode. Its a curse some of us have to live with, so i think in society there should be a more open attitude to mental illness. The following link is the start of changing attitudes and is a good read :)
Finally on the subject of suicide, some people affected by mental illness keep it so well hidden and are so deep into their personal misery that you wouldn't be able to tell if they were contemplating it, if anyone has been affected by the aftermath of suicide in their family they must not blame themselves, or wonder if they could have done something to prevent it because its impossible to predict. the Godmother of my daughter and my oldest and very dearest friend who I regarded as a sister took her own like in November 2003. she had drunk bleach two weeks before she took her own life, and had spent time being evaluated on a psych ward and was released without any aftercare, she phoned me 3 days before she died and said stuff to me that gave me an inkling she was contemplating suicide, I had found her twice before having attempted it, 3 days later her partner phoned me, he had come home from work and she had slit her own throat in the bathroom, I felt so terribly guilty but I knew deep down i could never have done anything to stop it from happening. Yes suicide is called selfish because of the aftermath but spare a thought for the victim, what utter turmoil they must have gone through to have done that, knowing what a horrible scene it would be for a loved one to discover. Ive been there myself, and thankfully i failed and im still here, Im grateful every day that I survived and learnt to live with the illness and I KNOW that there are services i can access to help me.
So people thats my essay over and done with, and remember please, if you spot any signs of depression in a loved one please seek help and be gentle with them, you never know what a difference you could make just by being open and loving to them xxxxxx
Kat.....I lost my sister when she was only 12. And yes I am a victim. Still haunts me xx
:neutral: my thoughts are with you. I lost a sibling too
life sucks and we're supposed to just get on with it. It never goes away xxxLikewise hun xx
Orgasminator
Words totally fail me :sad:
Suicide is definitely not a "cowards" way out.
And I dont care how many times this guy apologises....its too late
Suicide is definitely not a "cowards" way out.
And I dont care how many times this guy apologises....its too late
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Words totally fail me :sad:
Suicide is definitely not a "cowards" way out.
And I dont care how many times this guy apologises....its too late
No one knows what was going through Robin's head before taking his own life. Too easy for some to judge.
I for one am open minded about what happens after death, so hopefully he's at peace now and in a more comfortable place.
Whatever way he was going to die, he was going to make a huge exit regardless.
Warming the Bed
Its a difficult thing to understand unless you have been through it yourself.
I had a bad spell in my life about a decade ago and it was only when i visited my GP that he diagnosed depression. I would not have known that was why i was feeling so unwell without being diagnosed by him. Fortunately for me a spell on antidepressannts helped me think straight enough to tell him a few months later that i would like some counselling which helped wean me off the pills.
Can totally understand why the illness is called depression when i started taking the tablets as it was like a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders that had been pushing me down.
I had a bad spell in my life about a decade ago and it was only when i visited my GP that he diagnosed depression. I would not have known that was why i was feeling so unwell without being diagnosed by him. Fortunately for me a spell on antidepressannts helped me think straight enough to tell him a few months later that i would like some counselling which helped wean me off the pills.
Can totally understand why the illness is called depression when i started taking the tablets as it was like a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders that had been pushing me down.
I am not sure if this is relevant so excuse me if not but I wanted to share.
My lowest point in my life was when i had a full on panic attack one evening which left me gasping for air and slowly getting paralized due to lack of oxygen processing.
I was breathing very heavily but never the less i started to loose control of all of my muscles.
I was extremely lucky that evening even though i recognized what was happening too late i somehow managed to call emergency and start explaining what is happening unfortuantely by the time i got to tell my address i was barely able to speak so it took me a couple of attempts before i was able to give out my full and correct address. I still remember to day the frustration i felt in my brain as i tried to speak but my mouth and muscles did not want to listen to me.
After that i was lying on a floor like a bag of potato waiting for something to happen not being able to move and still breathing extremely heavily without actually getting much oxygen.
Fortuantely ambulance arrived quick and were able to enter as one of my friends came coincidentally home that moment as well.
An elephant dosage of relaxants and sleep inhibitors finally allowed me to function a bit better and after a couple of hours on oxygen and some IVs i in the ambulance i was put back at home on the bed to sleep( not before getting another shot of diazepam mixed with something else that pretty much put me to sleep instantenous).
Now the odd thing is that i never felt depressed i am naturally bubbly and happy go lucky person. I felt a lot of stress and i have noticed i had a couple more drinks than usual to cope at the end of the day due to work and real life issues but i did not feel sad ( what i think feeling depressed is). Perhaps my perception of depression was wrong back then and i nedever identified it but after doing research after that i read a lot of articles linking depression with panic attacks. But still to date i cannot figure out why this happened and how.
I guess what i am trying to say is that sometimes it sneaks up on us without being noticed like a lurker in the night and then hits you like a truck ... One think i know is that i took a very deep look at my life and priorities and decided that nothing in this world is worth me laying on the ground trying to spell my address to am emergency unit in vain for 15 minutes and then waiting for life to take its course without my input.
I felt helpless, frustrated, confused, angry and is not a place i want to go back to again. And again honestly i never "felt" depressed or what i thought feeling depressed is like ... but i was finding it difficult to tackle each next day more and more and alcohol seemed to be the only thing that helped. Not to the point of drunken stupors but a few drinks to ease the nerves and uplift me ...
I hope this made sense to anybody if not i will delete. It is hard remembering and trying to write cohesively about it
My lowest point in my life was when i had a full on panic attack one evening which left me gasping for air and slowly getting paralized due to lack of oxygen processing.
I was breathing very heavily but never the less i started to loose control of all of my muscles.
I was extremely lucky that evening even though i recognized what was happening too late i somehow managed to call emergency and start explaining what is happening unfortuantely by the time i got to tell my address i was barely able to speak so it took me a couple of attempts before i was able to give out my full and correct address. I still remember to day the frustration i felt in my brain as i tried to speak but my mouth and muscles did not want to listen to me.
After that i was lying on a floor like a bag of potato waiting for something to happen not being able to move and still breathing extremely heavily without actually getting much oxygen.
Fortuantely ambulance arrived quick and were able to enter as one of my friends came coincidentally home that moment as well.
An elephant dosage of relaxants and sleep inhibitors finally allowed me to function a bit better and after a couple of hours on oxygen and some IVs i in the ambulance i was put back at home on the bed to sleep( not before getting another shot of diazepam mixed with something else that pretty much put me to sleep instantenous).
Now the odd thing is that i never felt depressed i am naturally bubbly and happy go lucky person. I felt a lot of stress and i have noticed i had a couple more drinks than usual to cope at the end of the day due to work and real life issues but i did not feel sad ( what i think feeling depressed is). Perhaps my perception of depression was wrong back then and i nedever identified it but after doing research after that i read a lot of articles linking depression with panic attacks. But still to date i cannot figure out why this happened and how.
I guess what i am trying to say is that sometimes it sneaks up on us without being noticed like a lurker in the night and then hits you like a truck ... One think i know is that i took a very deep look at my life and priorities and decided that nothing in this world is worth me laying on the ground trying to spell my address to am emergency unit in vain for 15 minutes and then waiting for life to take its course without my input.
I felt helpless, frustrated, confused, angry and is not a place i want to go back to again. And again honestly i never "felt" depressed or what i thought feeling depressed is like ... but i was finding it difficult to tackle each next day more and more and alcohol seemed to be the only thing that helped. Not to the point of drunken stupors but a few drinks to ease the nerves and uplift me ...
I hope this made sense to anybody if not i will delete. It is hard remembering and trying to write cohesively about it
I think I am on the edge of dipping back into depression again, I can see the edges of the big black cloud but I am unsure what to do .... I recently had a fairly majrt operation which was far more traumatic than I thought it would be and has left me unable to get about much and in lots of pain, I know()hope) it will get better and will be worth it but at the moment that seems so far away
Just writing it here has helped me see whats happening to me and maybe I should go doctors but thats difficult in itself as I cant get there alone and my husband is working full time so its difficult !
I'm not wanting sympathy just needed to let it out
Just writing it here has helped me see whats happening to me and maybe I should go doctors but thats difficult in itself as I cant get there alone and my husband is working full time so its difficult !
I'm not wanting sympathy just needed to let it out
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I think I am on the edge of dipping back into depression again, I can see the edges of the big black cloud but I am unsure what to do .... I recently had a fairly majrt operation which was far more traumatic than I thought it would be and has left me unable to get about much and in lots of pain, I know()hope) it will get better and will be worth it but at the moment that seems so far away
Just writing it here has helped me see whats happening to me and maybe I should go doctors but thats difficult in itself as I cant get there alone and my husband is working full time so its difficult !
I'm not wanting sympathy just needed to let it out
Let it out chuck. Better out than in :) it's talking about it that helps and nothing to be ashamed about. Can't you get your doctor to come out to you?
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I think I am on the edge of dipping back into depression again, I can see the edges of the big black cloud but I am unsure what to do .... I recently had a fairly majrt operation which was far more traumatic than I thought it would be and has left me unable to get about much and in lots of pain, I know()hope) it will get better and will be worth it but at the moment that seems so far away
Just writing it here has helped me see whats happening to me and maybe I should go doctors but thats difficult in itself as I cant get there alone and my husband is working full time so its difficult !
I'm not wanting sympathy just needed to let it out
Nellie sweetheart, your body has been through the wringer lately, im not surprised you are feeling low, give your GP a call and talk to him/her over the telephone, they have an obligation to speak to you if you request a call back :) i often have telephone consultations with my doctor if im feeling too low to leave the house (I get agrophobic when im low) and also have a wonderful mental Health helpline here in sussex. Not sure where you are but im certain there will be one in your area.
Hope you are ok
Thank you so much for those lovely replies, they have made me cry but im a good way
Today i feel a bit better although still in lots of pain, hubby keeps telling me to go docs and i probably will but today i feel better and i have physio later so at least i will see other people and if i feel crap later than i will phone my docs.
Thank you so much, there are some lovely people here on SH xxxx
Today i feel a bit better although still in lots of pain, hubby keeps telling me to go docs and i probably will but today i feel better and i have physio later so at least i will see other people and if i feel crap later than i will phone my docs.
Thank you so much, there are some lovely people here on SH xxxx
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Thank you so much for those lovely replies, they have made me cry but im a good way
Today i feel a bit better although still in lots of pain, hubby keeps telling me to go docs and i probably will but today i feel better and i have physio later so at least i will see other people and if i feel crap later than i will phone my docs.
Thank you so much, there are some lovely people here on SH xxxx
I'm glad I started this thread because of how Depression is still stigmatised and also helps people 'offload', you're not alone chick :) we're not bloody superhuman and can't expect to sail through life without a few knocks and bumps along the way, I actually admire anyone who is open enough to talk about it. It's got to show a strength of character I think xx
Warming the Bed
Sometimes airing your feelings anywhere helps even if its too people you don't know.
Its the bottling it up which causes much of the damage so feel free to vent your feelings on here.
Its the bottling it up which causes much of the damage so feel free to vent your feelings on here.
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Thank you so much for those lovely replies, they have made me cry but im a good way
Today i feel a bit better although still in lots of pain, hubby keeps telling me to go docs and i probably will but today i feel better and i have physio later so at least i will see other people and if i feel crap later than i will phone my docs.
Thank you so much, there are some lovely people here on SH xxxx
Nells Sweetie,
Don't wait until you feel crap again.
Make the most of feeling a bit better, take the bull by the horns and go see the doc. Truth be told if you're feeling crappy you'll probably put off going. Depression, at any level, seldom goes away on it's own. You have good and bad days, but it's still there lurking in the shadows until you do something positive about it. I know when I eventually got round to visiting the doc about my stress levels I felt an almost immediate relief at having done something about it.
And if you're worried about the doctor thinking you're wasting his time, just tell him a moderator told you to go. ;)
There some truly lovely people here and I am very glad i posted about how I felt, it has helped me.
i had 2 very bad days and was in lots of pain and struggling to control it plus I lost some of my mobility that I had gained since my opertion and felt fed up because I felt I was going backwards and was so fed up and tearful
Friday afternoon i went for physio and although I felt I wasn't doing well I was told I was doing good !! So that helped plus the physio helped me with the pain ... tens machines are brilliant
Then yesterday I spent the day with family and hubby and we went out several times and I walked lots, far more than I have since my operation and the pain was controlled fairly well and I felt so much better :)
Today I am achy but that's to be expected after the amount of walking I did yesterday !
This week I will go docs and tell them you lots made me go lol
I hope these posts help others to know that depression is real and ordinary people have it and sometimes it's good to "let it out" to others :)
Thank you xxx
i had 2 very bad days and was in lots of pain and struggling to control it plus I lost some of my mobility that I had gained since my opertion and felt fed up because I felt I was going backwards and was so fed up and tearful
Friday afternoon i went for physio and although I felt I wasn't doing well I was told I was doing good !! So that helped plus the physio helped me with the pain ... tens machines are brilliant
Then yesterday I spent the day with family and hubby and we went out several times and I walked lots, far more than I have since my operation and the pain was controlled fairly well and I felt so much better :)
Today I am achy but that's to be expected after the amount of walking I did yesterday !
This week I will go docs and tell them you lots made me go lol
I hope these posts help others to know that depression is real and ordinary people have it and sometimes it's good to "let it out" to others :)
Thank you xxx
Orgasminator
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There some truly lovely people here and I am very glad i posted about how I felt, it has helped me.
i had 2 very bad days and was in lots of pain and struggling to control it plus I lost some of my mobility that I had gained since my opertion and felt fed up because I felt I was going backwards and was so fed up and tearful
Friday afternoon i went for physio and although I felt I wasn't doing well I was told I was doing good !! So that helped plus the physio helped me with the pain ... tens machines are brilliant
Then yesterday I spent the day with family and hubby and we went out several times and I walked lots, far more than I have since my operation and the pain was controlled fairly well and I felt so much better :)
Today I am achy but that's to be expected after the amount of walking I did yesterday !
This week I will go docs and tell them you lots made me go lol
I hope these posts help others to know that depression is real and ordinary people have it and sometimes it's good to "let it out" to others :)
Thank you xxx
the majority of us are just nice, normal, ordinary people who care about others, just coz we want to get in each others pants doesnt mean we are rubbish (Catholic raised 
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If you put together all the people on SH and had a game of trivial pursuit i reckon we would be an awesome team, never be so brow-beaten that you cant post in the forums, theres always bound to be a member of Sh somewhere that can help or advise
Ive been on a low for a week or so now, but I know where to find help to nip it in the bud, and always happy to pass on my personal experience with stuff like this.
lifes too bloody short to be miserable, make yourself a gratitude list, just 5 things you are grateful for each morning, on facebook right now they are doing the 3 positive things for 5 days challenge which is similar
so - I'm low right now - but my gratitude list is as follows :-
1: I woke up
2: i have a roof over my head
3: I have been 16 years clean this June :clap:
4: I have a freezer full of food because i have discovered menu-planning
5: i have friends that are better than family who are always there for me when i'm feeling low
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)If you put together all the people on SH and had a game of trivial pursuit i reckon we would be an awesome team, never be so brow-beaten that you cant post in the forums, theres always bound to be a member of Sh somewhere that can help or advise
Ive been on a low for a week or so now, but I know where to find help to nip it in the bud, and always happy to pass on my personal experience with stuff like this.
lifes too bloody short to be miserable, make yourself a gratitude list, just 5 things you are grateful for each morning, on facebook right now they are doing the 3 positive things for 5 days challenge which is similar
so - I'm low right now - but my gratitude list is as follows :-
1: I woke up
2: i have a roof over my head
3: I have been 16 years clean this June :clap:
4: I have a freezer full of food because i have discovered menu-planning
5: i have friends that are better than family who are always there for me when i'm feeling low
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Orgasminator
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the majority of us are just nice, normal, ordinary people who care about others, just coz we want to get in each others pants doesnt mean we are rubbish (Catholic raised
If you put together all the people on SH and had a game of trivial pursuit i reckon we would be an awesome team, never be so brow-beaten that you cant post in the forums, theres always bound to be a member of Sh somewhere that can help or advise
Ive been on a low for a week or so now, but I know where to find help to nip it in the bud, and always happy to pass on my personal experience with stuff like this.
lifes too bloody short to be miserable, make yourself a gratitude list, just 5 things you are grateful for each morning, on facebook right now they are doing the 3 positive things for 5 days challenge which is similar
so - I'm low right now - but my gratitude list is as follows :-
1: I woke up
2: i have a roof over my head
3: I have been 16 years clean this June :clap:
4: I have a freezer full of food because i have discovered menu-planning
5: i have friends that are better than family who are always there for me when i'm feeling low
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
echoes kat
1..i woke up
2..i have a roof over my head
3..i have a beautiful daughter
4..i cant cook for shit but hey ho
5..i also have some amazing friends...especially you and Kerrie
I went doctors and had a chat and feel better for having admitted to him how I am feeling, no medication prescribed cus I feel that I am improving plus it turns out I have another infection in the operation site (I think its the same infection that didn't go away !) and that can make me feel ill etc so now on antibiotics and told to go back to see the doc if still struggling
