in this day and age why are so many people in need of this service in such a civilised and prosperous country such as ours

Quote by Lizaleanrob
i just watched bbc's panorama report of food banks, i know we had them but was unaware and shocked at just how many there was and what percentage of the population was needed to use them.
in this day and age why are so many people in need of this service in such a civilised and prosperous country such as ours
Quote by GnV
i just watched bbc's panorama report of food banks, i know we had them but was unaware and shocked at just how many there was and what percentage of the population was needed to use them.
in this day and age why are so many people in need of this service in such a civilised and prosperous country such as ours
Quote by GnV
Fine words Trev, thank you but I still doubt that 100% client's are truly in need which was neil's original claim which I challenged.
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I'm sorry if that offends, but there will always be people who will take advantage and are cunningly adept at finding the means to be so which is where I was coming from in my response to neil's claim.
Quote by Rogue_Trader
Fine words Trev, thank you but I still doubt that 100% client's are truly in need which was neil's original claim which I challenged.
Quote by GnV
I'm sorry if that offends, but there will always be people who will take advantage and are cunningly adept at finding the means to be so which is where I was coming from in my response to neil's claim.
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well GNV....Dean...(aka Neil here !!!)
As it is a Doctor, social worker or police etc that give out food bank vouchers....and I am sure you would accept they are professional type people..... Therefore I would say that all the people visiting the food banks have been checked and verified.
Now if just one person was found ( as you seem to think ), selling the food down the local market , then I am 100% sure again, that the Dailey Wail would have found them and be up in arms with Front page headlines !!!
Perhaps in this case the onus is on you to show...just one person that has been found to abuse the food bank system ?
Quote by deancannock
well GNV....Dean...(aka Neil here !!!)
As it is a Doctor, social worker or police etc that give out food bank vouchers....and I am sure you would accept they are professional type people..... Therefore I would say that all the people visiting the food banks have been checked and verified.
Now if just one person was found ( as you seem to think ), selling the food down the local market , then I am 100% sure again, that the Dailey Wail would have found them and be up in arms with Front page headlines !!!
Perhaps in this case the onus is on you to show...just one person that has been found to abuse the food bank system ?
Quote by GnV
well, it seems you can't prove it so it will have to be left there.
Quote by deancannock
now lets remember this is the Daily Mail....the paper that has paid out more often than any other newspaper, in compensation, for printing what later turns out to be lies. Then lets read what it states !!
" The fly-on-the-wall crew gave viewers a revealing insight into 44-year-old Mr Harvey, however. For far from being deserving, he was exposed as a ‘conman’ — the local newspaper’s description — who was slyly taking jobs while claiming benefits, accusations he denies.
In addition it was claimed he had a string of petty criminal offences, had been accused of tricking two women out of thousands of pounds, and was alleged to have been evicited by his landlord after refusing to pay rent. Little wonder the BBC documentary described him as a man with a ‘sense of entitlement’. "
so he denies the first accusation.....and the second is only alleged !!!
Now where is the innocent before found guilty !!!
and Mids you say they should not be given money but vouchers !! Vouchers is exactly what they do get and the only thing they can exchange them for is food, and exactly the sort of food you mention..pasta....potatoes etc...
That is not what I said at all, I said that if INSTEAD of cash benefit payments they could be given vouchers the system would be less open to abuse, if those people did not spend the cash on cigarettes, alcohol, satellite TV and other things that should be consider luxuries in times of need then there would be little need for food banks.
Most people who find themselves out of work unexpectedly have enough stock in their cupboards to keep themselves going for a week or two until benefit payments start, severance pay, redundancy payments are also often available. After a few weeks benefits normally start, if not then that is when help might be needed.
Benefits should be for keeping people out of poverty not keeping them in a luxurious lifestyle, it should be a safety net until they can find alternative employment, the way it is today, too many find it more financially viable to live on benefits than to have a paid job.
On the programme Benefits street one guy was claiming benefits and earning £1500 a month on the side and another was trying to better himself by walking the streets selling cups of washing powder, soap and anything else he could, half the time he gave his stock away to those that needed help more than he did, that is the kind of person I respect.
A mother on there was questioning her daughter as to why she wanted a job at all and two guys who were always seen smoking and drinking were never seen trying to find work other than robbing the Tesco delivery van and selling drugs.
The Queen Bee of the street was happy to admit that she didn't really want to go back to work but would rather live on benefits whilst enjoying her satellite TV and Broadband connection for her PC.
What I say is let us help those that need it as much as we can and stop some of the abuse the system incurs. Vouchers not cash benefits would help that.
In reality I am sure that there will be one or two that will con a voucher out of someone. the average food parcel I believe is valued at £20/£25.....now lets equate that with tax fiddles and evasion.....lets make Starbucks pay what they owe, and we can afford food banks through to next century !!!